Wait, don't tell me this is all you're making from your shit you spam here on gfy every fucking day?

Finally getting CCBill sales this month, got 3 today which is good for me :)

you've never been bright. always open your fucking mouth before you think

i do have some other sites than signbucks and my sales are bigger than referral earnings.

It's not CCBill's sales that are drying up, it is YOUR sales that are drying up.

We use only ccbill and have for almost six years, before that we had our own gateway and account. Sales have slowly eroded since 2001, regardless of processor. It is a different market than we saw in 1996 when we started in this business. Do not blame the processor for decreased sales. Ccbill has been good for us we eliminated a lot of overhead when we moved to them and I do not regret the decision.

yes, but no...
This is a global evolution, but this evolution is not steady...
If in a week my ratio is 1/1350 and a week later it is 1/7000, there is a problem for me.
But this ratio was perhaps 1/350 in 2001...
That's something else.

My gods there are some really stupid people on here. Nobody is comparing 2012 to 1996. They are comparing March 2012 CCBILL to March 2012 Epoch, et al.

looked like you were just putting people down, not knowing any ones background and that you were stating fact. Not looking for a discussion, and what you said is pretty foolish. Its pretty common knowledge that if you have 3-4 processors cascading, you have a better chance for a signup then you do through CCbills scrubbing. And when people who own programs that process through CCBill and say that there Epoch cascade is going above and beyond then what there ccbill is doing. That would lead people to believe there is some kind of issue, why is Epoch accepting the charge, but not CCBill?

Or see this thead
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054587

wow mark, you think?

Is there anything else that Captain Obvious would like to mention? I certainly wish you many more prosperous years to come.

Btw, I got more denials in the mail today. yay!!!

Hmmm..... why do some of my expiration notices say the customers purchased $49.95 memberships, when i don't even offer that?

While you are known around here as a real Einstein.

As MC hammer once said," sometimes you need to pray.... to get an approval today"

ouch....LOL

Had a quiet few days with CCBill sales here but I think it's just the way the current climate is. I'm running an experiment and have set Verotel as my primary processor for type in traffic. Found that I can cascade with Nats to have all CCBill affiliate traffic go to the CCBill join page and all type in traffic to go to any biller of my choosing and cascade appropriately.
Had a slow trickle of sales with Verotel today and a few CCBill rebills so all isn't too bad.

kinda the same here too. I just did a pretty large ad campaign for one of my sites and no ccbill sales to that one since last wed.

Well, if everything is doing well (as far as sales) and all of a sudden, theres a huge drop, (and you have not changed a thing) than I would assume the billing company may have changed something or maybe their join page was not working at some point.?? However, I have had great sales (in the past) and then one month it just flopped too. And I checked with both billing companies and all was up to par on their end... Some times there may not be a reason for sales declining and join ratios rising...

:1orglaugh

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nastypinkteens.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xgay.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xtranny.com#

etc.

You would think after all these complaints CCbill would take a second look at some of their scrub factors and see if something is a bit off. All it takes is something stupid such as requiring the zip code to *exactly* match a GeoIP database versus allowing a bit leeway. Everyone makes mistakes. CCBill is such a professional company I am surprised the upper level management does not take these complaints more seriously. People bitch about the admin system but it mostly works fine. This on the other hand directly effects sales.

Even as an affiliate the ups and downs (which almost always come in the same pattern) are very frustrating. I've been a huge fan of CCBill in the past but I can't help but think of all the money I am losing and in these times you can't afford to throw money away like this.

I always see these crazy patterns. Divide the month into days 1-10 (beginning), 11 - 20 (middle), 21-31 (last). If I have a good beginning it's a good bet that the last part of the month is going to be really bad. If I have a bad beginning then either the middle or the last part will be good. It's normal to see these ups and downs to some degree but not in such a consistent pattern. Somehow it almost always seems to even out on a monthly basis.

I have seen those same exact and specific patterns *a time or two*

Yes in these times you need every single transaction approved when a customer has *MULTIPLE* valid cards, and funds on the cards.

Hey Beaner, can we work something out and buy some of this traffic? Could be very productive for us

1908 alexa ranking seems impressive

Haha, did someone barely getting by banging untested strangers on third party billing and her employee just make a funny?

If you could afford the bus fare to Phoenix you could discuss my traffic in person.:1orglaugh

Or lack of :2 cents:

That is actually a pretty big prick statement and also an allegation that I'm waiting to hear the proof for... you know the rules.

CCBill just sent out an email today about their launch of a new tool "Web Verify" to try and help with the denial rates

"As you know, CCBill's goal is to provide a system for your online business to help you maximize sales, while still providing protection to your merchant business. You may have noticed that we just launched another new tool, called Web Verify, which allows declined consumers to provide additional information to potentially approve their declined transaction.

As part of our regular reviews of your account, we have identified several custom adjustments that can be made to your specific fraud protection settings that will definitely improve throughput of transactions. Please keep in mind this won't be a dramatic increase in transactions, but based on the quality of performance on your CCBill account, once these adjustments are activated, you will be able to capture a few additional customers that may have had trouble previously.

Based on our experience, we have found that even though some of these transactions can be considered higher risk, with your current 'risk' rates, these adjustments should have little or no effect on your account, other than more sales for you.

These changes will go into effect in the next few weeks, but they are not mandatory. They are simply another option from CCBill to help you allow more sales to process. However, if you feel that this would add unwarranted risk to your account, please let us know, and we can either keep the settings as they are now, or revert them to original settings at any time. "

Just got this email from CCBill so it looks like they're trying to help. Hopefully it does.

And for that I am worshiped,respected, and well protected, I don't consider Beaner my employee, as grounded as I am he is a very dedicated,brilliant,sincere friend on our team who with his vision and expertise has revived our operation...

the 3rd party Biller you mentioned is actually my employee...*because they actually work for me*

If you need help getting your transexual website back to relevanacy, remove the penis from your mouth for a second so you can have room to swallow your pride and ask for Beaner's help... I am sure he would consider it if you ask nicely:thumbsup

He went over the line. His ass will be banned for it.

Just to give you a heads up... 12clicks has been a prick since day one. He took a pot shot at you that deserves banning.

His traffic on sites in is *old* sig is this:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nastypinkteens.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xgay.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xmovies.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xasian.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xtranny.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xcoeds.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xamateur.com#
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/12xeighteen.com#

Those are the first 8, he has a few more. All his sites have about 10 clicks to 200 clicks (listed in his program... alexa is source)

Oh wow. Quite the statement.

That mother fucker better get banned. We have worked way to hard and these insults are a direct attack.

Ron won't get banned.

It's "too"

I wouldn't hold my breath on 12clicks getting banned. It seems to me someone gave him a license to be an ass here. I suggest putting him on ignore and letting him puff out his chest and posture all he wants. There are better things to do with one's time.

Thank you for sharing (and SNRProductions too). It looks like it might be a step in the right direction. I always get paranoid that these things will be used to cut out affiliates and that I will not get proper credit. Over the years as an affiliate in this business it tends to make you quite paranoid sometimes....

I note your program. I'll have to get signed up soon and get you up on a few sites. I have some traffic which might do well and will be working on some of those sites in the coming week. :)

the web verify feature went live weeks ago no? i've not noticed any improvements since then, only 1 time when the customer was double billed which ccbill did warn could happen.

Sales were ok friday saturday, dropped 75% sunday/monday - traffic to join pages level all 4 days, it's a nightmare. I used to be able to predict exactly how many sales i would have at any time in the day... impossible now

The day web verify went into effect is the day my sales came to a complete stop.

Feb 14th.

Also noticed at least 1 member of mine was double billed.

Dirty F is right. He won't get banned.

Go to a show and see who he hangs out with.

or even, who hangs out with me. :1orglaugh

see you there, sparky?

Web verify *was* an attempt. It has not worked from our experience. It certainly hasn't *harmed* sales though... I just don't know how you can think CCBill is the cause for a sudden stop in sales. Nobody is seeing that, people are seeing declines, scrubs, etc. etc., >... NOT... Drop in sales completely. Their is something wrong on your end.

The rules for this forum apply to everyone. Ronnie is like an old girlfriend, you said goodbye 5 years ago but somehow she is still around :(

Thank you for clarifying my point.