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topnotch, standup guy 03-31-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18854888)
I donated a hundo to the innoncence project. I saw that Betty Anne movie a while back and the first time I heard about the project.

Good cause :thumbsup

Now.. here's wishing you luck in nailing that thieving piece of shit programmer to wall.


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alan-l 03-31-2012 06:56 PM

I hired him for some easy job but he was so unresponsive I cancelled it. I would never give him access to databases, though.

Anyway, for something as easy as a form, you should ask the coder to do all the work in his production server or his own computer, can't understand why you give access to your stuff to unknown people for such small task

GAMEFINEST 03-31-2012 07:14 PM

fuck that sucks

DaddyHalbucks 03-31-2012 07:34 PM

Check the laws on stealing trade secrets, they are very powerful.

DTK 03-31-2012 09:28 PM

It wasn't meant to be an exact copy.

LOL

SuckOnThis 03-31-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18854888)
I donated a hundo to the innoncence project. I saw that Betty Anne movie a while back and the first time I heard about the project.

Good choice. I've known Barry Scheck for many years, one of the best men anyone could know.

bean-aid 04-01-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18856062)
Good for you.:thumbsup

I just broke down the simple information (below) and googled separately phone, ICQ, email, etc.

MRM Media.
Phone: (0040) 752 523472
ICQ: 260892954
MSN: [email protected]
GMAIL: [email protected]
Email: [email protected]
ZigZag Uploader v1.0
keenak
etc...

Then I hit PageInsider Then reverse IP Lookup (not 100% reliable) Then hit Archive.org and pulled old contact information on some of the sites and googled that. This lead me to forums he visits for fun and read his post (Google translation is your friend). I was able to encircle this guy in less then 20 minutes.

The only reason I stopped is this guy is NOT hiding and could of easily covered his path better if he's a scammer. So Beaner, let me ask again? Did he "just" steal your concept because in my opinion, although shitty, it's the Internet and concept stealing is a sport.

BUT if he took more then just your concept, well then he's easy to find. :2 cents:

Nice. Would be nice to see those other forums. I mentioned before he was very sloppy, was easy for me to track him down once I saw his sites (aka my sites).

What is an email I can send you something? I think you have put enough effort into this and should read it. I just ask you keep the details private and post back your thoughts.

bean-aid 04-01-2012 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18856062)
So Beaner, let me ask again? Did he "just" steal your concept because in my opinion, although shitty, it's the Internet and concept stealing is a sport.

He stole my concept, my files, my artwork, my text, programming files, members list, the entire thing, 100%. That is why I told the other guy, Horny Guy, to check his sites as well.

Jet Set Cat 04-01-2012 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scriptguy (Post 18853346)
Hello Beaner,

I saw the last thread and I've read this current one.

I repeat: I didn't steal anything from you!

I've build my website to offer almost the same services as you do since I saw a potential market.

(If you question yourself that a programmer can't replicate any website then you are delusional)

I know why you are upset, you are upset because until now you didn't have any competition in that niche and that's why you are throwing stones.

But this is not how you handle competition if you want no competition then you try to acquire competition. I've taken a look in the niche and I saw companies that offer desktop software for almost the same services. Are you going to go after them as well ?

If you want my domains you can say so, maybe we can reach a deal if you want to acquire your competition.

Just take a look at tube sites, what if only one tube would have a monopoly on all traffic?
If another tube site came he would try anything in his power to acquire.
Without competition we wouldn't even have facebook.

As a last warning, I'm telling you this: stop with the hate words because I don't like to get mad.
Just play this game fair! Or you are too afraid?

You have to be the scum bag of scum bag’s and also a real moron to think you can justify a move like that.

Your new logo;

scriptguy “we specialize in site development and programming and do a good job at it. Unless of course we feel your project has potential, in that case we just take it for ourselves.”

ottopottomouse 04-01-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18854353)
WTS, Eastern Europeans biggest weakness is their family and a simple brand will cover them all for life. They thrive on talking about each other and highly suggest using this angle especially if you find out where he lives. In short, they can never shake that village mentality even if they live in the city.

I'm not Eastern Europe but the difference in moving from city to village is very noticeable. EVERYBODY seems to think whatever I do is their business now :(

jscott 04-01-2012 09:22 AM

I just spread the word on legwebmasters forum in the cheaters section and on my personal site blacklist

...everyone... pls spread the word always about cheaters, scammers, thiefs!

raymor 04-01-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by barcodes (Post 18853408)
The way i took it was that beaner made something unique then hired scriptguy who remade it for himself and bought a similar domain.

If I thought of pinterest and paid someone to create it online for me, and they bought ponterest and made the same exact type of site i would be a bit pissed :1orglaugh


Scriptguy was hired after the sites were complete, to take care of a contact form, etc. Instead, he downloaded the whole site, scripts, text, everything. The main scripting wasn't anything he wrote - he straight up stole it. Having seen the sites myself, the text is copied straight from Beaner's site.

anexsia 04-01-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18857135)
Scriptguy was hired after the sites were complete, to take care of a contact form, etc. Instead, he downloaded the whole site, scripts, text, everything. The main scripting wasn't anything he wrote - he straight up stole it. Having seen the sites myself, the text is copied straight from Beaner's site.

:Oh crap:Oh crap what a fucking loser scriptguy is

bean-aid 04-01-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18857135)
Scriptguy was hired after the sites were complete, to take care of a contact form, etc. Instead, he downloaded the whole site, scripts, text, everything. The main scripting wasn't anything he wrote - he straight up stole it. Having seen the sites myself, the text is copied straight from Beaner's site.

I appreciate you taking the time to research all the sites and read the dialogue we had back in 2010. Means a lot to me that you did that and thank you.

BAKO 04-01-2012 09:57 PM

Kick his ass

bean-aid 04-01-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18857135)
Scriptguy was hired after the sites were complete, to take care of a contact form, etc. Instead, he downloaded the whole site, scripts, text, everything. The main scripting wasn't anything he wrote - he straight up stole it. Having seen the sites myself, the text is copied straight from Beaner's site.

I just want your statement to be up top of page 3. Thanks again Ray

bean-aid 04-02-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18857284)
3 pages later and no defense.

You get what you pay for in the end. :2 cents:

He did defend himself, first page. Said all is free game and can do what he wants. Except he *didnt* steal anything. He replicated my sites.

And he did have a reference at the time of hire, source was reliable, also misinformed however.

edgeprod 04-02-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Set Cat (Post 18856274)
scriptguy ?we specialize in site development and programming and do a good job at it. Unless of course we feel your project has potential, in that case we just take it for ourselves.?

Mark from GTS (Gallery Traffic Service) did this same thing, yet somehow people here still do business with him. His excuse was "it wasn't supposed to be a carbon copy" -- as if that somehow justifies it. Huge breaches of trust with clients between all of these chumps.

mafia_man 04-02-2012 09:19 AM

Why are you giving these fuckers full ftp access to your shit?

Make restricted accounts or ssh jails.

jMEGA 04-02-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18852761)
When hiring a programer, ask for references that you can verify yourself. Whenever possible, worth with a programmer in your own country and insist on a written signed agreement. When providing access, make sure the FTP info is to a development server with test data only, and not a production server with production data. Under no circumstances should you allow anyone root or administrative access to your server, or allow access to other directories. When the job is finished make sure there are no other programs or scripts installed that should not be there. Demand the source code and review everything carefully where possible before making anything live, and before paying the balance.

Good words to live by :thumbsup:thumbsup

bean-aid 04-02-2012 11:08 AM

And *all* his sites are down! Server frozen!!! Thank you godaddy and well established lawyers.

Thank you Jesus H and Raymor and everyone else who has chimed in with support.

Kostly 04-02-2012 12:12 PM

Time for him to find a new hosting company. Hope he kept backups... lol

DTK 04-02-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 18857933)
Mark from GTS (Gallery Traffic Service) did this same thing, yet somehow people here still do business with him. His excuse was "it wasn't supposed to be a carbon copy" -- as if that somehow justifies it. Huge breaches of trust with clients between all of these chumps.

I'm surprised you missed my 'it wasn't supposed to be an exact copy' reference last page :winkwink:

V_RocKs 04-02-2012 01:06 PM

Pretty sad that he is so misinformed on ethics...

Nice that you shut his ass down.

lucas131 04-02-2012 01:13 PM

i always hate to see someones work shut down, even if it is all copy and paste work, someone put time on it, but of course, if it is stolen work, you have to learn that stolen work may not work for long :) lesson learned, everyone may grow one day, try it guy! :thumbsup

bean-aid 04-03-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by scriptguy (Post 18853346)
As a last warning, I'm telling you this: stop with the hate words because I don't like to get mad.
Just play this game fair! Or you are too afraid?

I don't like to get mad either... I just get even :2 cents:

suesheboy 04-03-2012 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18860757)
i always hate to see someones work shut down, even if it is all copy and paste work, someone put time on it, but of course, if it is stolen work, you have to learn that stolen work may not work for long :) lesson learned, everyone may grow one day, try it guy! :thumbsup

what a douchy statement to make:disgust

travs 04-03-2012 05:17 AM

that's just fucked up...karma is just around the corner for that guy

raymor 04-03-2012 06:18 AM

This is why as soon as we started doing work for webmasters we divested all of our own sites. I can never even LOOK like we could have taken any client data for our own sites because we don't HAVE any sites.

k0nr4d 04-03-2012 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18853969)
Seriously delusional? - I've weeded out many of programers using this method. Just the mere mention of using teamviewer stops them before they even start. Also, hiring a reliable programmer is not hard. Go to places like Odesk and don't hire anyone unless they've been around over a year and read their reviews and ask serious questions.

You would weed out many talented and honest programmers by forcing them to do everything via that teamviewer thing... sounds like a pain in the ass

bean-aid 04-04-2012 07:03 PM

markj9:57 AM
I want you to hand me over the domains. Delete my files off your hardrive, and I will consider this issue resolved and not make it an agenda to follow you around alerting everyone what you did. Some bad decision making and ethics on your part, good thing I caught you only 1 month after you reserved the domains
markj9:32 PM
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU RECEIVED MY ICQ
Klaniak9:33 PM
Yes I did received your ICQ Message
markj9:34 PM
good
markj9:35 PM
Romanian professional engineer in the US, huh? Wow! Your choice. If I was you I'd hand back domains infringing on my trademark (no longer my copyright) since down and walk away quietly
Klaniak9:37 PM
You can buy them there are available for sale, there's no trademark infringing
markj9:39 PM
your choice. You stole my content. I even had a well known programmer document the source codes. Read the gfy thread... I also know all the forums you post on and how you get business. Maybe you should make a follow up post on gfy?
Klaniak9:39 PM
I never stole your content, do you think google maps is stolen content?
markj9:40 PM
you are one of the biggest idiots ever... what the fuck do you think those lines on the map are?
Klaniak9:41 PM
Do you think I will hand over the domains to you, not unless you pay
markj9:41 PM
kindly go fuck yourself
Klaniak9:41 PM
Here's one thing I can do, I can release the project under open source
Klaniak9:43 PM
and then you can also compare the source code
Klaniak9:43 PM
I will change google maps to bing maps
Klaniak9:43 PM
so you can use both of them
markj9:44 PM
you can do whatever you want... remember what I said
markj9:44 PM
you are a thief, a fucking scumbag, you downloaded entire server... and now I am going after your ability to process through any merchant account. starting with visa, high powered attorneys have a lot of pull
Klaniak9:45 PM
You are the scumbag, we could have resolved this easy
Klaniak9:45 PM
but you keep insulting people
Klaniak9:45 PM
next time learn how to speak with people properly
Klaniak9:50 PM
I can sell you the domains + templates but you wanted the domains for free come to me next time you want to buy them

bean-aid 04-04-2012 08:24 PM

Nicolae,

I want you to know this.

I know you are broke and can barely get by with your programming. I know you live in Romania and that you recently asked for 5K to startup a business venture and even posted that on gfy.

You have never been called out for scamming/thieving and you have never been caught before... until now.

What you do not realize is that you have now acquired a foe for life. That means, if I am in a bad mood and want to fuck with you I will.

The sad part is you have no idea what you stole. You have no idea what it does and who it is provided to. What you also don't know is that the information is only a couple months from being obsolete and a whole new set of standards will apply.

Of course, you would not know that because you live in Romania and the site is based on very industry specific information that is always revolving.

You are simply a thief that got caught. Sucks to be you.

Your new best friend

2012 04-04-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18867358)

Your new best friend

:1orglaugh
https://gfy.com/image.php?u=142926&dateline=1307669010

porno jew 04-04-2012 08:32 PM

i'm sorry wont happen again.

Barefootsies 08-07-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 18853951)
you guys are delusional if you think "teamviewer" or "don't give them root" is going to save you from a skilled programmer that wants to steal your stuff... the only solution is hiring someone reputable that you trust... avoiding programmers that bill $5/hr from 3rd world countries is probably a good idea too, they have nothing to lose, so odds of getting fucked are pretty high... :2 cents:

Well said.

:thumbsup

Rebel D 08-07-2012 06:28 AM

theres only 2 programmers in adult i would ever trust. Edgeprod is one. and Nastyrat is the other.

Jey p 08-07-2012 06:33 AM

So sorry to read this man. I hope you can do something about it

Barefootsies 08-07-2012 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel D (Post 19108415)
theres only 2 programmers in adult i would ever trust. Edgeprod is one. and Nastyrat is the other.

I work with Konrad, Vlad, & Vitaly currently. I have worked with borked in the past before his new gig.

All are top notch A+++.

Jey p 08-07-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19108425)
I work with Konrad, Vlad, & Vitaly currently. I have worked with borked in the past before his new gig.

All are top notch A+++.

Vlad rocks!

OldJeff 08-07-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel D (Post 19108415)
theres only 2 programmers in adult i would ever trust. Edgeprod is one. and Nastyrat is the other.

Only 2 in the world I trust, one is my partner, the other has been my best friend for just short of 40 years


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