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TheSquealer 04-04-2012 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 18866548)
In 2 months it went back to #1 and hasn't moved in a year.
Exactly... as I also said... 4-8 weeks and it comes back unless it gets banned. Anyone can do it to anyone.

lucas131 04-04-2012 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 18864340)
I had a site which was ranked 1st for the target term, earning me well over 1k/month, then BOOM one day it completely disappeared.

I didn't think much of it at first due to the nature of the beast. However with time the site did not resurface in the rankings so I did a bit of digging.

Some asshat had submitted hundreds of backlinks to negative sites, thus getting my site booted from the rankings. I did quite a lot of reading on the subject, and even a video by Matt Cutts says that this really should not even be possible and they have nothing in place to review it if it does indeed happen to you.

With this being a newer site of mine I did not have a track records of high quality backlinks so it made it that much easier for the asshole to knock me out of the rankings.

I have tried a number of things since but it seems the domain is doomed and I am done fucking with it.

I have never in my life used shady techniques against my competition. Fucking assholes.

Not sure why I am even posting this here (hopefully it doesn't give anyone else the idea).
man, welcome to the club, i had a maybe month year ago when someone was doing exactly this to all my new sites. new site, few days nice serps, then dissapear, so checked my url in google and have found links to my site from some blogs and comments with illegal keywords and most of them didnt even exists already. i say, if i will find one day who was or is doing that, i am buying nice baseball bat and two airplane tickets ... stay tuned for updates, or i hope updates on this topic will not come ... fucking assholes, some shitheads deserve to burn in hell ... :2 cents:

redwhiteandblue 04-04-2012 01:01 PM
I came across what purports to be a fix for this today, but I'm not posting it here obviously.

2intense 04-04-2012 01:02 PM
:1orglaugh
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18866614)
man, welcome to the club, i had a maybe month year ago when someone was doing exactly this to all my new sites. new site, few days nice serps, then dissapear, so checked my url in google and have found links to my site from some blogs and comments with illegal keywords and most of them didnt even exists already. i say, if i will find one day who was or is doing that, i am buying nice baseball bat and two airplane tickets ... stay tuned for updates, or i hope updates on this topic will not come ... fucking assholes, some shitheads deserve to burn in hell ... :2 cents:

lucas131 04-04-2012 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 18866617)
:1orglaugh
and what is here funny? if month of hard work is going to the shit because someone press button and blacklist your sites in google? not funny not even a bit :2 cents:

wehateporn 04-04-2012 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18866614)
man, welcome to the club, i had a maybe month year ago when someone was doing exactly this to all my new sites. new site, few days nice serps, then dissapear, so checked my url in google and have found links to my site from some blogs and comments with illegal keywords and most of them didnt even exists already. i say, if i will find one day who was or is doing that, i am buying nice baseball bat and two airplane tickets ... stay tuned for updates, or i hope updates on this topic will not come ... fucking assholes, some shitheads deserve to burn in hell ... :2 cents:
Have they completely stopped now? Back in 2007/2008, someone used to regularly start up an exact copy of one of my sites, which back then would destroy my SEO

bean-aid 04-04-2012 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18866602)
I just caught this.
I 100% agree with what you said.

I just *think (with some testing of my own to come to a reasonable conclusion)* that if you get yourself a bunch (50-100) links from sites either penalized or banned from google (typically from a link purchase package)...

and...

not such great *organic* linking structure to begin with, typically a newer site...

Your site will get penalized as well.

DaCaptain 04-04-2012 04:18 PM
FreeHugeMovies...please hit me up on icq when you get a moment.

wehateporn 04-04-2012 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 18864186)
I posted this on accident in another forum.

What can you do? Just move on?


Reconsideration request for XXXX: Site violates Google's quality guidelines
March 26, 2012 Dear site owner or webmaster of XXXX,

We received a request from a site owner to reconsider XXXXX for compliance with Google's Webmaster Guidelines. We've reviewed your site and we still see links to your site that violate our quality guidelines.

Specifically, look for possibly artificial or unnatural links pointing to your site that could be intended to manipulate PageRank. Examples of unnatural linking could include buying links to pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.

We encourage you to make changes to comply with our quality guidelines. Once you've made these changes, please submit your site for reconsideration in Google's search results.

If you find unnatural links to your site that you are unable to control or remove, please provide the details in your reconsideration request.
If you have additional questions about how to resolve this issue, please see our Webmaster Help Forum for support.

Sincerely,
Google Search Quality Team
Sometimes this can be fixed quite easily

DaCaptain 04-04-2012 07:53 PM
wehateporn...how so?

papill0n 04-04-2012 08:00 PM
51 google fuckings

OneHungLo 04-04-2012 09:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 18864340)
I had a site which was ranked 1st for the target term, earning me well over 1k/month, then BOOM one day it completely disappeared.

I didn't think much of it at first due to the nature of the beast. However with time the site did not resurface in the rankings so I did a bit of digging.

Some asshat had submitted hundreds of backlinks to negative sites, thus getting my site booted from the rankings. I did quite a lot of reading on the subject, and even a video by Matt Cutts says that this really should not even be possible and they have nothing in place to review it if it does indeed happen to you.

With this being a newer site of mine I did not have a track records of high quality backlinks so it made it that much easier for the asshole to knock me out of the rankings.

I have tried a number of things since but it seems the domain is doomed and I am done fucking with it.

I have never in my life used shady techniques against my competition. Fucking assholes.

Not sure why I am even posting this here (hopefully it doesn't give anyone else the idea).
There's a special place in hell for cocksuckers who do that shit.

tonyparra 04-04-2012 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 18866616)
I came across what purports to be a fix for this today, but I'm not posting it here obviously.
why not? im sure you could sell that......

u-Bob 04-19-2012 03:38 AM
copy/paste from a TP thread:

Quote:
Pixelgrinder and I conducted a little experiment on whether negative seo was possible in the current climate - we felt it was important to know whether it was possible for a site to be negatively affected completely by outside influences. This experiment was not done with the knowledge or consent of TrafficPlanet.com owners/admin/moderators.

We carried out a massive scrapebox blast on two sites to ensure an accurate result. The two sites we chose and the reasons we chose them are as follows:

seofaststart.com (Dan Thies)

1. He has received a direct response from Matt Cutts on Twitter, so if we were able to affect his site he is more likely than most to get the ear of the right person and show google what can be done (https://twitter.com/#!/danthies/stat...89475497676801)

2. A self proclaimed "seo guru" (Hi, I'm Dan Thies. Although I'm best known as the "keyword guru," I've been practicing, studying and teaching advanced search engine marketing strategy and tactics for several years http://www.seoresearchlabs.com/) - it should be harder than most to affect the site of an "seo guru".

3. If it works, he should be smart enough to profit from all of the publicity he would get out of it.

4. He already has several domains 301d to seofaststart.com without penalty (not a white hat tactic) - we were wondering if he had been 'protected' in some way.

5. He is a suck-up-brown-noser, smugly bad mouthing everyone and crowing that "many pants are being pooped and it's long overdue" - we don't like him.

negativeseo.me

1. They are selling services for negative seo under the tagline "destroy your competitors".

Rankings Before (22nd March):

seofaststart.com
dan thies - number 1
seo - number 11
seo service - number 34
seo book - number 3

negativeseo.me
negative seo - number 2
destroy your competitiors - number 1

Timeline:

15th March - Dan Thies posts smug tweets to Matt Cutts and pisses off the entire internet.

18th March - seofaststart.com - blog posts started - anchor text "seo" "seo service" and "seo book"

22th March - seofaststart.com - 1 million scrapebox blast started - 100% anchor text "Dan Thies"

24th March - negativeseo.com - 1 million scrapebox blast started - 100% anchor text "destroy your competitors"

26th March - Dan Thies posts in Twitter that he has received an unnatural links message.

Note: 18th March - seofaststart blog posts started. This was NOT US. We had previously decided that it would be risky to 'out' the blogs that links were getting placed on and agreed not to include blog posts in our experiment. We don't know who did this, how many links they built or what network/s they used. We discovered these links in ahrefs and have estimated that about 5000 links where built, probably with ALN between the 18th-23rd March.

Ranking After (18th April) note rankings are still jumping a little:

seofaststart.com
dan thies - number 1 (still number 1)
seo - not in top 1000 (down from number 11)
seo service - not in top 1000 (down from number 34)
seo book - number 34 (down from number 3)

negativeseo.me
negative seo - number 6 (down from number 2)
destroy your competitiors - number 13 (down from number 1)

Other stuff of interest right now:

ahrefs seofaststart.com (notice how few of our 1 million scapebox links have shown up!)
https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/bac...ofaststart.com

ahrefs negativeseo.me (notice how few of our 1 million scrapebox links have shown up!)
https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/bac...negativeseo.me

Dan Thies begging on google groups
https://groups.google.com/a/googlepr...at/Azfly-iRtLs


Our personal message to Matt Cutts/Google:

Negative SEO is possible. Sort it out!

Our personal message to Dan Thies:

Next time you want to smugly throw your holier than thou 2 cents into the ring, think before you speak. Every backlink to your site was analyzed before starting this. Don't think those 301d domains hide what you are doing because they don't - you are the same as the rest of us - your methods for link bait are, in fact, worse than some of the 'spammers' you so often refer to. Now your pants are being pooped and it's long overdue

Antonio 04-19-2012 04:04 AM
99% of the people that got this message got it because they built links on ALN, BMR, and the other big networks; I seriously doubt that it is that easy to damage a site with xrumer or SB, but you never know

u-Bob, if you read the thread on TP, you will see that most of the damage to the 1st site was because of ALN (according to some of the comments) ...

u-Bob 04-19-2012 04:24 AM
No doubt that helped in the case of the first site (taking into account the competitiveness of the niche). Given the amount of attention this is getting (on TP, WF, WF,...), it should be interesting to see how G reacts when every kid on the block starts 'attacking' its competitors.

Antonio 04-19-2012 07:28 AM
and too many (all or nealry all) exact match anchor text links - another factor that could trigger the penalty

DamageX 04-19-2012 07:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18895715)
copy/paste from a TP thread:
Don't fuck with the blackhatters. :)


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