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Colmike9 04-04-2012 04:14 PM

If you need a great new teen sponsor, check out Payserve in my sig :winkwink:

(Youve probably heard of it, just thought Id try. :pimp )

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 18867017)
If you need a great new teen sponsor, check out Payserve in my sig :winkwink:

(Youve probably heard of it, just thought Id try. :pimp )

I will give it a look see for sure and yes, I'm heard of you guys, but nothing bad so far

Far-L 04-04-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18866984)
Thank you very much, Man. I will definitely be looking at your sig not that you did it for that reason :thumbsup

I appreciate that but my intent wasn't to spam us at all. (I am way more obvious when that is the purpose).

I see so many people insinuate stuff here and never really lay anything risky out. You are doing people a favor to call them to accounts out in the open and I think no matter how you make the point it is refreshing for once to see an affiliate not just making blurry accusations but actually coming directly to the point.

Guess this opinion is going to get me kicked out of the bro-club so maybe I should be begging for your biz right about now though...

(yes, file that under spamming my shit...:winkwink:)

porno jew 04-04-2012 04:18 PM

i case you missed it you can sign up here to teen revenue!

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18867020)
I appreciate that but my intent wasn't to spam us at all. (I am way more obvious when that is the purpose).

I see so many people insinuate stuff here and never really lay anything risky out. You are doing people a favor to call them to accounts out in the open and I think no matter how you make the point it is refreshing for once to see an affiliate not just making blurry accusations but actually coming directly to the point.

Guess this opinion is going to get me kicked out of the bro-club so maybe I should be begging for your biz right about now though...

(yes, file that under spamming my shit...:winkwink:)

no, APPRECIATED. I just tried to log into teen revenue and can't so now you know how they do their business :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lazycash 04-04-2012 04:19 PM

Its been a rough go on gfy for Dwreck ever since the $500 casino chip incident with CarlosTheGaucho.

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18867030)
i case you missed it you can sign up here to teen revenue!

They have actually shut me out of the program. That is what a bunch of scumbags they are. So hopefully you are all reading this and know who they are and what they are about.

I should actually be amazed I got paid though but at least we have something new to bitch about. LOL

porno jew 04-04-2012 04:22 PM

"the star of the Internext Florida."

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:22 PM

Okay so now I will do what I was going to do LOL

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:24 PM

It's hilarious. They left me on their other stupid programs LOL

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:26 PM

Who wants to see LITTLE SUMMER TAKING A PEE?

porno jew 04-04-2012 04:28 PM

too late http://motherless.com/B2CF565

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18867048)

Man she pees a lot. I have a different clip.

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:31 PM

she's actually using a toilet in mine

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:32 PM

See this is when they mattered, when they had chicks like this LOL. Now they are just a joke anyway

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:36 PM

Shit if they were a legit company still, the guy in south Carolina would be rocking and rolling since they shut me down LOL

Rothstein 04-04-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 18867002)
Yeah, I don't get the whole "but I am a (insert desired job here)." If you have a family and bills to pay, stop crying and sell used cars, insurance, cheeseburgers...whatever. I've worked a couple of shitty IT jobs over the years when things got rough.

Anyone who is intelligent, well-spoken, polite and out of work is just plain lazy.

You sir are not scum.

2MuchMark 04-04-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18866420)
Yeah, yeah , yeah, remember this when you are not being paid or getting screwed and need someone to back you up, from anyone, not just Derek (the scum of the earth). We reap what we sow.

You didn't address my idea at all. You are pissed at the company, but you are blaming Derek and creating drama for him when you yourself said the problem occurred BEFORE he got there. Come on man, swallow your pride a little here and re focus.

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18867065)
You sir are not scum.

I am! I am! Over here, but not as bad as Derek Smout and Teen Revenue LOL :1orglaugh

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18867071)
You didn't address my idea at all. You are pissed at the company, but you are blaming Derek and creating drama for him when you yourself said the problem occurred BEFORE he got there. Come on man, swallow your pride a little here and re focus.

He is a scumbag whore. they just shut me out of the program for being forced to pay me. And he left me free to check out his other shitty programs which he probably has no idea about LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

They suck and you suck if you have anything to say to dry and defend them

Now you know how they are. This is indisputable

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:45 PM

Now, I will do what i was going to do to begin with which is awesome for me

2MuchMark 04-04-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18867080)
He is a scumbag whore. they just shut me out of the program for being forced to pay me. And he left me free to check out his other shitty programs which he probably has no idea about LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If they shut you out of the program, it COULD be due to this thread you started, no?

But anyway, look at it this way - now it doesn't matter. They still owe you apparently, and its out in the open now. Hopefully they'll pay you and that'll be that. All I'm saying that it wasn't fair to attack Derek. Attack the owners and the program, sure, but why Derek if he had nothing to with it?

peace.

smutnut 04-04-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 18867092)
If they shut you out of the program, it COULD be due to this thread you started, no?

But anyway, look at it this way - now it doesn't matter. They still owe you apparently, and its out in the open now. Hopefully they'll pay you and that'll be that. All I'm saying that it wasn't fair to attack Derek. Attack the owners and the program, sure, but why Derek if he had nothing to with it?

peace.

Look they paid me. Then they shut me out of the program. Derek knows who he is working for. why do certain freaks keep trying to defend him.

Anyway, believe me. the burn is going to come back their way. I fucking promise you.

The torrents are just ripping away

Far-L 04-04-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18867099)
Look they paid me. Then they shut me out of the program. Derek knows who he is working for. why do certain freaks keep trying to defend him.

Never underestimate the power of premium imported brew over domestic at trade functions...

smutnut 04-04-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 18867138)
Never underestimate the power of premium imported brew over domestic at trade functions...

Yeah, it's no biggy. People just need to know how they operate. You can send them traffic, earn money, but if they actually have to pay you on schedule you are fucked. It's that simple. No prob. I am going to so saturate the web with their content for free it won't be funny. I don't even care who knows

Brad Mitchell 04-04-2012 06:23 PM

I have nothing invested in the outcome of this but personal attacks on Derek are no more justified than it would be to do the same on a bank teller of a bank that got bailed out. Get real, he's an employee.

Brad

papill0n 04-04-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18867147)
Yeah, it's no biggy. People just need to know how they operate. You can send them traffic, earn money, but if they actually have to pay you on schedule you are fucked. It's that simple. No prob. I am going to so saturate the web with their content for free it won't be funny. I don't even care who knows


you think youre the first useless alcoholic webmaster fuck to get jerked around on a pissy little payment ???

of course you should get paid but maybe you need to enagage your fucking brain and research who you promote. your not telling anyone anything here. i seem to remember you carrying on like this the last time something minor didnt go your way.

hopefully youve vomitted all over yourself again and passed out :321GFY

lucas131 04-04-2012 06:40 PM

wow this is a long thread :)

candyflip 04-04-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18867222)
I have nothing invested in the outcome of this but personal attacks on Derek are no more justified than it would be to do the same on a bank teller of a bank that got bailed out. Get real, he's an employee.

Brad

That's exactly the attitude they are hoping people will take. MR has been has been into shit for a few years now and Derek hasn't been with them for that long.

When he took the job, he knew exactly what he was doing and who he was working for. He doesn't get to play the "i'm only an employee" card.

CamTraffic 04-04-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 18867222)
I have nothing invested in the outcome of this but personal attacks on Derek are no more justified than it would be to do the same on a bank teller of a bank that got bailed out. Get real, he's an employee.

Brad

I concur. Derek is actually a nice dude. Met him couple of times at shows.
i would have shut u down long time ago for starting that thread. Be glad they paid u...

iSpyCams 04-04-2012 07:33 PM

Yeah when are you fuckheads gonna realize that getting paid on-time is a luxury for sissies and babies.

When affiliate managers lie and make up stories about where your money is they are just being professional. It costs a lot to find attractive trendy people to hide behind, I mean rep your program. Send them to shows smiling and shaking hands with everyone - it's not free you know.

You need to fall inline and take your fucking over like a big boy, there is nothing you can do about it anyway.

BareBacked 04-04-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 18866562)
Derek, if you read this, hope your doing fine, kind of miss ya sometimes... But thats in the past

Are you his Ex?
GFY is great :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 04-04-2012 07:50 PM

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porno jew 04-04-2012 08:17 PM

don't doubt the smout, sprout.

2012 04-04-2012 08:32 PM

seemed like a nice fellow.

KillerK 04-04-2012 10:41 PM

Thread starter is a douchebag.

He apologizes after he gets paid, even though he was lied to.

Fuck him.

If I was the sponsor, I would terminate the fucker and tell him he is not welcome back.

v4 media 04-05-2012 02:13 AM

The name of a trademark attorney
the address of Domains By Proxy, LLC
and a link telling me who the sales team are.


did you even look at those links?

Bryan G 04-05-2012 05:24 AM

You're bitching because they blocked you from their program?? You started this thread got paid and continued to act like a 5 year old. Why are you going on about them blocking you if you said you would never promote them again anyhow? Out of curiosity how many sales did you normally send them a pay period?

GonZo 04-05-2012 05:38 AM

So much cockgobbling in this thread... see my sig for the original ASSCLOWN.

NerdScott 04-05-2012 05:38 AM

BryanG i sent you an email.

candyflip 04-05-2012 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media (Post 18867653)
The name of a trademark attorney
the address of Domains By Proxy, LLC
and a link telling me who the sales team are.


did you even look at those links?

She's just blindly defending him because he was a good guy at a show back in the day.

She's clueless as to the situation and what went down the past 2 years. She even said it herself.

:helpme

Far-L 04-05-2012 08:20 AM

What I don't get is why is Derek being made to relay information from accounting in the first place? Shouldn't accounting be conducting a fiduciary discussion and not leave such sensitive matters to a marketing rep? Even given the "on vacation", "family emergency" etc., whatever excuse accepted - I still think this question should be asked, especially by Derek as an employee. All he should've had to do was tell the affiliate "accounting will return by Xx/Yy/Zz and contact you asap"

I must have woke up in a parallel universe where that sort of thing makes sense... Oh, no, that's right. I work in adult where that type of professional conduct is not only considered acceptable but normal. Almost forgot.

Mutt 04-05-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18867805)
Out of curiosity how many sales did you normally send them a pay period?

If he sent 2 sales per pay period that's 2 more than you ever sent anybody

iSpyCams 04-05-2012 08:28 AM

What I don't get is how as affiliates in marketing (not just adult) we are supposed to automatically extend 15 to 30 or more net credit terms to each "client" we get.

If brick and mortar vendors did this as a habit they would all be broke in no time.

It seems like at the very least there should be some kind of a unified credit scoring system for affiliate programs, where the likelihood of them paying what is owed on time can be quantified in some way.

If I am late on a car payment or a credit card payment my ability to get credit from third parties in the future is affected, regardless of any excuses given. Why should it be any different for adult companies?

These drama threads are the closest thing we have to a credit scoring system for adult companies, and for that reason they are very important.

Barefootsies 04-05-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18865002)
He's the guy Teen Revenue brought in before stopping paying their affiliates. When you see his name at his next Gig, you should know that company is going to stop paying you soon and have his lying ass try to lead you on. :thumbsup


Bryan G 04-05-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18868192)
If he sent 2 sales per pay period that's 2 more than you ever sent anybody

Ignorance is bliss

Sly 04-05-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 18868196)
If brick and mortar vendors did this as a habit they would all be broke in no time.

From my experience, brick-and-mortar is much worse. Net 60-90 is not all that uncommon.

iSpyCams 04-05-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 18867805)
Out of curiosity how many sales did you normally send them a pay period?

His whole payment history from ICQ logs is in one of these threads. I can't remember where and can't find it now but the impression I got was that he was doing about 500/mo with them.

iSpyCams 04-05-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18868216)
From my experience, brick-and-mortar is much worse. Net 60-90 is not all that uncommon.

I was actually referring more to retail, but I get your point. The thing is in the offline world when they give you those terms they have your name, address, phone number, SSN, and credit history and can report your late payments which affects your credit rating.

In adult we're supposed to trust people just because they have naked pictures and a Nats install. Anonymous whois records, address of their lawyer instead of their office, affiliate manager who's not allowed to tell you who his boss is, etc.


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