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candyflip 04-06-2012 08:12 AM

How's does a scamming company like this bring a Canadian into the states to live and run their scam operation?

Far-L 04-06-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18870257)
Fair enough. Apologies.

I realize most of these people defending Derek are doing so because of him and not the program, but the two things go hand in hand. There's a reason they pay you to be a front man. And I can't wait until some of these people defending him get burned (although I'm sure they will never admit it when it happens). It's inevitable. That's what this program does, even when they stop doing it for a while. It's their nature. They've been doing it since Paolo sold it and will keep doing so. It's why Tampa left.

But yeah. You're right. Apologies again. I didn't really try to come across as a nice guy so I deserve to get ripped too.

P.S though I don't agree it's not the affiliate Manager's job to buffer for you not getting your check. I have never seen a company where there's any issue with asking the manager what's up with the checks. But most companies do post a contact for accountants. And when their is a problem, rarely does the affiliate manager keep lying to you. I've even had a couple tell me straight out they don't know what's going on. Then you usually end up getting the check pretty quickly.

Appreciated and accepted.

I just think it is a red flag if a company, adult or otherwise, lets a marketing rep front for accounting. I know that is how many handle their biz. I just think it is a disaster waiting to happen, either it is a recipe for bad communication, or a sign of the typical "keep shit going until we successfully burn the program and move to the next" approach seen all to often in this biz.

tgdguy 04-06-2012 09:44 AM

Derek is a fine bloke but one who has sold his soul to the devil. He is an affiliate rep in a dying biz and knows this is probably his last hope at an easy paycheck. He is living the good life in CR and is blinded by it. He knows he is working for a bunch of criminals and he should have to pay the consequences as in this case of being called out. I am sure for fact he also hates that he cant go to the industry shows anymore as that was huge for him. Sleep with the dogs wake up with fleas. With that being said smutnut is a fucknut for sending to TR after all that has gone down over time.

homegrownmof 04-06-2012 10:21 AM

I'm waiting for the "Derek Smout: The E! True Hollywood Story"

that will explain everything.

papill0n 04-06-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SocialAssassin (Post 18870495)
Derek is a fine bloke but one who has sold his soul to the devil. He is an affiliate rep in a dying biz and knows this is probably his last hope at an easy paycheck. He is living the good life in CR and is blinded by it. He knows he is working for a bunch of criminals and he should have to pay the consequences as in this case of being called out. I am sure for fact he also hates that he cant go to the industry shows anymore as that was huge for him. Sleep with the dogs wake up with fleas. With that being said smutnut is a fucknut for sending to TR after all that has gone down over time.

excellent summary

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Rothstein 04-06-2012 02:48 PM

thread reopened

2MuchMark 04-06-2012 02:58 PM

Currently sober likes Poo!

Rothstein 04-06-2012 03:10 PM

Companies he's worked for:

LiveCamCash = no longer paying affiliates
MediaRevenue = extremely shady/scam operation
TeenRevenue = part of MediaRevenue

Who else?

alextokyo 04-06-2012 03:26 PM

I'm just going to quote myself for the fuck of it.

Can't stand that bought-me-a-$2-beer-at-a-show bro club pestering twat, fuck him. He's the very definition of a "top notch, stand up guy".

How the fuck his bullshit hasn't been outsourced to 5 or 6 Filipinos is totally unfathomable to me.

Guy needs to put a pen up his nose and slam down on a table. Perhaps he can tie a rope around his dick and jump out of a tree. Can't wait to see him disappear from the biz ala GrimShawn or spacedog. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18865744)
Should change his name to Derek Snout. :1orglaugh

Anyway, I remember this annoying bottom-feeder ginger cunt pestering me all day to buy shitty feeds on ICQ about 8, 9, or maybe 10 years ago. I couldn't tell you the exact date but I can tell you that he wouldn't leave me the fuck alone.

The fact that this zero talent clown constantly bounces around from company to company speaks for itself. He's a fucking pest. :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18866471)
This is exactly what I'm saying.

The guy is an ignorant brown-nosing ginger twat & fucking bottom-feeding cockroach who doesn't know when to call it quits.

He needs to learn how to leave people the fuck alone and stop being a pushy annoying twat. This is the exact same shit he was trying to pull with me years ago, except that he pestered me all fucking day. And every day after that, for a good 3 or 4 weeks. After several weeks of no responses, he finally got the message.

If he had any clue at all about how to improve anything, he'd be the webmaster and not the clueless asshole bouncing around from company to company in bottom rung, lowlife part-time "rep" positions and pestering people on ICQ for ten bucks here and ten bucks there.

The guy is a no talent rat-faced parasite piece of shit who will do anything for the promise of a few dollars. As far as I'm concerned, he's a fucking joke. Fuck that clown.


DatingFactory 04-06-2012 03:56 PM

I need to learn how to be quick when drama is in the air.

lazycash 04-06-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18870954)
Companies he's worked for:

LiveCamCash = no longer paying affiliates
MediaRevenue = extremely shady/scam operation
TeenRevenue = part of MediaRevenue

Who else?

He worked for Webcamcash, then they went out of business.

Rothstein 04-06-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18871019)
He worked for Webcamcash, then they went out of business.

lol :1orglaugh

alextokyo 04-07-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 18871019)
He worked for Webcamcash, then they went out of business.

:1orglaugh

DarkJedi 04-07-2012 01:46 AM

Didn't Derek work for WegCash? Or am i wrong?

porno jew 04-11-2012 06:46 PM

so did smouter get canned? and why is this guys name familiar?

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Email: [email protected]

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:03 PM

yup derek switched out like a pawn.

jimmycooper 04-11-2012 07:03 PM

http://i.imgur.com/HyXZ9.jpg

http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/R...tcher_4602340/

porno jew 04-11-2012 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18880720)

another media revenue success story.

TheSenator 04-11-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18870954)
Companies he's worked for:

LiveCamCash = no longer paying affiliates
MediaRevenue = extremely shady/scam operation
TeenRevenue = part of MediaRevenue

Who else?

LivaCamCash is Sean DeFreitas and Luc Perreault that owe people money.

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18880732)
another media revenue success story.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18880735)
LivaCamCash is Sean DeFreitas and Luc Perreault that owe people money.

Yes, my point was that Derek used to work there.

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:18 PM

We worked things out, not me and Derek, but me and the rest of the company. I will keep you informed if things change. Only made this point cause this thread got jacked to the front again. I actually wanted to lay low see what happened. I have no real issues with a company that converts for me and pays so we will see what happens soon.

Again, emphasis is on issues have been worked out for at least a little while.

jimmycooper 04-11-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18880732)
another media revenue success story.

24/7 Deals, a bushel full of acai berries and a whole lot of love!

http://i.imgur.com/FKU0l.jpg

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:23 PM

You have to convert. If someone will convert and will pay, it's between you and them and believe me I will go off again when (i mean if) they screw me again and keep you people informed.

You wouldn't believe the little network I built around these guys. I was taking it all down when I got contacted, just so you know...

porno jew 04-11-2012 07:24 PM

wonder if they cross sell cigars and scotch on your bill here?

http://9n.cr/photos.php

AdultKing 04-11-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18880764)
You have to convert. If someone will convert and will pay, it's between you and them and believe me I will go off again when (i mean if) they screw me again and keep you people informed.

They are screwing you, every company that screws surfers is also screwing the webmasters who refer them. The effect being that once screwed that person will never pay for porn again.

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18880765)
wonder if they cross sell cigars and scotch on your bill here?

http://9n.cr/photos.php

lmfao Nice find, Nick B right in the main picture.

porno jew 04-11-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18880772)
lmfao Nice find, Nick B right in the main picture.

wonder who is behind it http://www.facebook.com/bobbyrica

does look nice though.

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:31 PM

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Domain's Holder Petite Mundo Grupo SA
Administrative Contact Vanessa Gonzalez
[email protected]
PI
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+506.5512323
Technical contact Vanessa Gonzalez
[email protected]
PI
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Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:31 PM

Whois Search Results

Domain: blue.co.cr
Domain's Holder BLUE MEDIA CR SA
Administrative Contact James Beckish
[email protected]
Blue Media CR SA
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Technical contact James Beckish
[email protected]
Blue Media CR SA
Villa Real, 1 km pasado de Multi Plaza
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Expires on 15 Oct 2015
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AdultKing 04-11-2012 07:34 PM

They're not even bothering to hide things anymore.

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18880767)
They are screwing you, every company that screws surfers is also screwing the webmasters who refer them. The effect being that once screwed that person will never pay for porn again.

I am not referring them and won't. I just want to get paid for my work and am collecting sign ups. If they straighten out like I thought they did before, I will let you know. I have a lot of links to them, and I actually hurt myself yanking them just before they contacted me again.

Don't know what to say. I need money. And I promote people who convert and pay me. It's porn. there is no real morality involved.

But I will keep you updated for sure

AdultKing 04-11-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18880786)
I am not referring them and won't. I just want to get paid for my work and am collecting sign ups. If they straighten out like I thought they did before, I will let you know. I have a lot of links to them, and I actually hurt myself yanking them just before they contacted me again.

Don't know what to say. I need money. And I promote people who convert and pay me. It's porn. there is no real morality involved.

But I will keep you updated for sure

It's not a moral argument that I make, it's purely business. How long do you think you will make money from porn if the larger portion of the market stops paying because last time they paid they had credit card hell that wiped them out ?

People like you amaze me, you think that you can do business with thieves and not be affected. The funny part is that they're paying you nothing compared to the amount they're scamming from surfers and getting away with.

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18880783)
They're not even bothering to hide things anymore.

If you want to cover my loses then we can start a revolution, but I think I can handle this an d let you know the deal as time permits.

See what a diplomat I am even after calling an accountant a whore and calling out their main affiliate manager?

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 18880791)
It's not a moral argument that I make, it's purely business. How long do you think you will make money from porn if the larger portion of the market stops paying because last time they paid they had credit card hell that wiped them out ?

People like you amaze me, you think that you can do business with thieves and not be affected. The funny part is that they're paying you nothing compared to the amount they're scamming from surfers and getting away with.

I don't know. You make valid points that turn my stomach. I would like to have more choices and am working on it. That's all I can say at this time. I wish I was more of an upstanding citizen or business man.

I can almost guarantee there will be another thread like this started by me some day down the road...

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:44 PM

They actually woke me up though. I've never worked so hard since I can remember trying to convert people I don't even normally convert. It's like being a newb all over again.

Rothstein 04-11-2012 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18880801)
I don't know. You make valid points that turn my stomach. I would like to have more choices and am working on it. That's all I can say at this time. I wish I was more of an upstanding citizen or business man.

I can almost guarantee there will be another thread like this started by me some day down the road...

Seriously, shoot yourself.

smutnut 04-11-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rothstein (Post 18880807)
Seriously, shoot yourself.

Look, I probably will. I agree with you.

Unless you guys have a good teen sponsor for me. I'm trying them all out and trying to prepare. It seems like each person has one sponsor they rely on. I need one of those for real.


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