I've read that, excellent book. Quote from the books afterword;

"It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when"

General Eugene Harbiger
USAF
Former Commander-in-Chief
US Strategic Command

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You rednecks crack me the fuck up, and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

That National Geographic series on Doomsdayers is always entertaining. It shows how people are getting armed with assault rifles, setting up solar farms and self-sustainable eco-systems in middle-of-nowhere-compounds from which they can pick veg and fish, stashing decades upon decades worth of canned food, etc. In reality... a massive pack of wild negros appear armed to the teeth, kill you and rape & kill your kids, then steal your shit.

If shit does go down for real, then there will be less Soulja Boy & Paul Markhams around and a fuck load more Joe Louis & Joseph Kittingers. It will be fantastic for the human race. Good luck to all the winners. :2 cents:

camel not sentence driver

Honestly fletch, did you actually read the first post? Because it sounds like you made up a post then replied to that.

there will never be a shortage of idiots. this thread proves it.

Instead of monetizing on the solar flares as a scare, just try to sell solar panels with selling text like "If you think they work well now, just wait a year and these panels will earn you twice as much money by selling your excess energy thanks to the solar flares! GREAT INVESTMENT BEFORE SCIENTISTS CATCH ON AND THE PRICES SKYROCKET!"....

There are three types of people in the world when it comes to events.

1) The person who is prepared and can deal with most situations accordingly. Maybe that simply means getting the hell out of town.

2) The person who takes warning and leaves when the local authorties tell them to or takes shelter.

3) The person who has to be saved from their rooftop because they refused to listen to anyone, did not prepare, and didn't think it would ever happen to them. These people have what is called the normalcy bias.

If I have a choice, I'm going to be person number one. If warning is given, I'm not going to be the guy you'll have to rescue from a tree top where I ate tree bark for several days to stay alive.


I know you went through the Katrina situation and saw some shit, and I don't even live in the USA so I'm not taking a side here, because both sides are right. It just depends on the situation.

What you experienced was just devastation of a city and martial law. However, the city has slowly been coming back because there is still a state and federal system in place. There is still an economy. What many prepper prepare for is a total collapse. Not one where the federal government is going to fix it later.

During Katrina, there were still funds to pay the police and groups who were upholding martial law. During a financial collapse, there may not be money for this. Taking Argentina as an example, most of the police force no longer showed up for work after their collapse. No money means no one gets paid. Who's going to risk their life for free? Maybe the National Guard, but there are not enough of them to cover a national break down. The military would have to come in and even then there would not be enough of them to contain an entire nation, in every city.

What if the lights don't come back on? Your lights did and you know they would.

What if there is no more US Dollar to buy things with. You knew that you could still buy goods with your dollars even though your city was in ruins.

This is what smart preppers prepare for. A worst case scenario. A real situation where it's not going to be quickly fixed. Historically, during a currency collapse it takes 3 - 9 months to get something new in place. What are you going to do during that time if the dollars in your pocket (and in the bank) are totally worthless? Something will be used as currency until a new one is created. Be it bartering or something of real value, such as metals.

Then there are preppers who prepare for small things like an earth quake. I can tell you that I would rather have a "big out bag" full of a few days of supplies than no supplies at all in the event a devastating earthquake hit and I survived. A few days worth of supplies can be a matter of life or death in some situations.

You can be those people stuck on their roof after Katrina would have killed for a weeks worth of food, water, and perhaps some medical supplies.

And in terms of martial law, lets say it does happen. Well then be prepared for that too. The less you have to leave your house the better.

If shit goes down for real, and history says it probably will eventually, guys like you who laugh at those who prepare for the worst, are going to be the guys who are robbed, beaten, and probably killed for whatever it is you may have. That much you can count on. I hope that never happens, but those who can not protect themselves are going to be the first targets for those who can protect themselves and want what you have, be it your shoes or your woman.

Wow Fletch you are so deep dude. I am glad you took another opportunity to plug yourself as the "good understanding guy" before actually reading anything.

The GFY community once again commends you for being the master of reality.

And unfortunately there will never be a shortage of people who will have to be rescued from a rooftop after they were warned that a flood was coming. You are a text book case for one of these types.

But it's OK, there are a lot of people just like you. You can always see them after every disaster waving desperately for help as the helicopters hover over them. They usually haven't eaten for a few days and have no idea what the hell just happened.

I dont think people will use silver and gold as barter after a disaster. But that's what people think and are buying. After a disaster yes food, water, medical supplies,power, weapons is what people will barter with. Maybe after a year or two when things start to improve they may start using silver and gold as bartering, but initially yeah your right, they will use have to have items.

Sure it did. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You're that idiot that attempted to help clean up right?

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lmao, I see the media got you too choker :1orglaugh

i will do exactly nothing to prepare me for anything of this nonsense

As i said, youve never spent weeks without power have you?

Ever shit in a bucket for days because the city sewer system is on electric systems?

I have.

you guys can sit and talk on gfy but fact is if anything really happened you guys will not be prepepared if you are collecting coins and tyvek suits. I promise you.

and thats from someone who understands what cities look like with no power grid. and that only stretched a few states imagine entire nation, i bet you guys cant, because youve never even seen the tip of the ice berg.

the nation couldnt even handle hurricane katrina and the power failures it brought, you thin they can handle chernobyl in america with some coins and a sack of tyvek suits? LOL

come sit though a hurricane first...

i spent 6 months of 14 hour days helping clean the oil spill. and also moved back from california to new orleans after katrina to help my family who lost multiple homes and my grandmother died after the storm. more than one person in m family lost everything in katrina, whole house washed away... in multiple states. fam in mississippi lost home and my folks here in new orleans did too.

yes, i speak from experience while people on gfy sit and yap.

theres a big difference between katrina and the oil spill though, perhaps wikipedia can help you since you clearly dont know what you are even referring to.

The only thing worth reading in this thread right there. Nice sales.

Correct me if I am wrong, from reading about the big storm last month, it was strong enough to have caused serious satelite damage, power grid outages, and lots of permanent damage to electronics. From what I have read the only thing that saved our asses was the earths tilt was such that the solar flare hit the earths magnetic field at the perfect angle to deflect it. If the earth's tilt had been the opposite of what it was we would be in a world of shit right now. But like I said, correct me if I am wrong about this. I do know that NASA was sending out serious warnings right before it hit us last month.

Pretty much all of NASA's funding has been cut, of course they have to look like they are working on something big/important else they'd be gone completely.

Every man dies. Not every man truely lives.

would it make you think if there was no warning in the rest of the world?

Gotcha. Sorry I woke up on the wrong side of hte bed when i wrote that. One thing i have noticed is that this crowd is a bit more informed then the norm. I know that seems unlikely but seems to be true.

Are you trying to say there were no warnings from NASA? Not my problem that you live in a country who's idea of a space program is a weather balloon.

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no, i live in a country that doesnt need to scare people with bullshit to justify a space agency that doesnt even have space ships anymore

+1

As far as an actual threat, intense solar flares make cell phone reception worse because radio receivers work on millions of a volt. The power grid runs on thousands of volts. The worst solar flair even wouldn't be detectable on the power grid. Lightening is billions of times stronger. Want to prepare for solar flares? Get a land line phone. Done.

Dude, every federal agency, every expert on power grids says the opposite. So you know something they don't? And not to mention that in the last 50 years strong solar flares HAVE knocked out power grids all over the earth. So I guess all those news stories and people without power because of solar flares was a big conspiracy or something? Um, Ok

They will barter with everything they can get their hands on.

However, most people won't have anything at all, as you can see from the people LOLing in this thread. So get your weapons and take from them whatever you want. No need to barter with those types. In the grand scheme of things the weak are meant to die anyway.

Everything was bartered in Argentina. Weapons, jewelry, coins, food, ammo, medicine, sex, you name it. No reason to think the USA would be any different.

We are getting a compost toilet very soon. No need to shit in a bucket.



Because the nation is BROKE and in debt to the point of no return. Not because NASA is worthless.



They thought the same thing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki I'm sure.

The USA was very close to all out war with the Soviets during the Cuban missile crises. However, students hiding under desks and in the basements would not have saved them from such a catastrophic event. And by some freak chance it did, the radiation would have killed you later. So in that aspect, it was indeed a total waste of time. But the act of trying to prepare for something is not.


Fact of the matter is, people never know when a disaster is going to happen or the size of it. Maybe never. Maybe in 2 minutes after I make this post. It may be an earthquake, a power outage that lasts for a few days (or weeks), a currency collapse, a tornado, or something more sinister and destructive. Historically it has happened over and over and over again around the world, so it's not something that should be blown off so easily. Shit happens. Nothing wrong with being a little prepared for it.

However, the one thing everyone can count on, including the most prepared prepper, is it will never play out the way you planned. But even if you're just a little prepared, it will be better than not being prepared at all and having to be totally dependent on others.

Choker, you are fucking redneck idiot. Typical American white trash.

its getting caught in a gamma ray burst that you really gotta worry about. :D

the threat of major damage to the electricity grid from solar flares is real, unlikely that will result in some sort of apocalyptic situation though.

Cognitive Dissonance and the End of the World
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...harold-camping

"The more someone acts on behalf of a belief (and even suffers for it), the more and more that belief becomes important to them. People think, "I have done so much for this belief. If it weren't important I wouldn't have done that." This is a basic form of dissonance reduction."

Apparently there's a lot of self help information out there for people with end of the world fears and doomsday phobia.

You guys could always start a doomsday/end of the world cult and profit from that?

And what is your point troll? LOL

Gamma ray would be a game over thing. No need to worry about a situation that you can't do anything about. Didn't the miltitary release a report stating that it only takes a 2 megaton nuke 250 miles above the center of the US to fry the entire US grid? The Russian nuclear threat is far from over.

That was my point you dumbass redneck.

Really was an interesting book.

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Perhaps your country is better prepared at a federal level to deal with such issues, thus no real need to alert people of any possible danger. It is also possible that where you are located geographically may not be an issue for such flares. Many nations did alert their people during the last big flares. We even had alerts here. My guess (totally uneducated guess) is that it has to do with where you are during the time they will hit.

"End of the world" fears I'll give you. But being prepared for situations that can and probably will eventually should be perfectly normal. This is like saying an ambulance crew needs help because they are prepared to help someone in the event of an accident.

I'm starting to think no one here has ever taken a world history class. Because if you have, most of you wouldn't be saying some of the stuff you are saying.

i just don't believe in any of those scare tactics

not once in my life anything of that really happened and IF i am ever unlucky enough to be proven wrong, i have at least not wasted my time before worrying about eventualities

of course there's nothing wrong when living in Florida to prepare for a hurricane, don't get me wrong

but preparing for solar flares, civil war, zombie attacks or the end of the world in 2012 is just plain nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

what would happen if the 1859 event happened today
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/

I don't worry at all but shit does happen