Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 18872100)

If everyone carried a gun and it was assumed that everyone did, there would be a LOT less violence like this, that's for sure. If it weren't for the fact that I'd shoot the first idiot who threw gang signs at me, id carry one too.

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 18873574)

Don't the stats speak for themselves on this already? Americans have the right and ability to arm themselves daily. America has one of the highest murder and violent crime rates of any first world nation. Compare that to countries where guns are restricted to military, police forces, hunters, and other security-oriented professions. I don't think this is an experiment that is still waiting for the results to come in.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
Crime rates per 100,000 people in the US in 2010:
Violent crime rate 403.6
Homicide rate 4.8
Property crime rate 2,941

According to http://www.unodc.org/documents/south...stice_2010.pdf
The homicide rate per 100,000 in the last reporting period was approximately (page 13-19):
United States: 7
Canada: 2
U.K: 2
Serbia: 4
Estonia:7
"Available data from 61 countries indicate that the percentage of homicides committed by firearm varies from 10 percent in countries in East and Southeast Europe to around 75 percent in Central America and the Caribbean."

Originally Posted by Elli (Post 18873574)

Don't the stats speak for themselves on this already? Americans have the right and ability to arm themselves daily. America has one of the highest murder and violent crime rates of any first world nation. Compare that to countries where guns are restricted to military, police forces, hunters, and other security-oriented professions. I don't think this is an experiment that is still waiting for the results to come in.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
Crime rates per 100,000 people in the US in 2010:
Violent crime rate 403.6
Homicide rate 4.8
Property crime rate 2,941

According to http://www.unodc.org/documents/south...stice_2010.pdf
The homicide rate per 100,000 in the last reporting period was approximately (page 13-19):
United States: 7 311 million
Canada: 2 = 34 million
U.K: 2 63 million
Serbia: 4 7 million
Estonia:7 1.3 million
"Available data from 61 countries indicate that the percentage of homicides committed by firearm varies from 10 percent in countries in East and Southeast Europe to around 75 percent in Central America and the Caribbean."

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18873624)

theres a very big difference here. those added together hardly close to 300 mill smoke screen numbers :2 cents: uk they dont have guns :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18873624)

theres a very big difference here. those added together hardly close to 300 mill smoke screen numbers :2 cents: uk they dont have guns :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18873657)

Let me guess. Your education was very limited? What a suprise that you also happen to be a gun nut.

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18874395)

his birthday was yesterday that crazy would have been 48

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18874428)

Did you find out how statitics work yet?
Over here in Holland the average 12 year old understands them. How old are you exactly?

Originally Posted by NoWhErE (Post 18872106)

Personally, if I ever lived in a place where I felt the need to carry a gun to feel safe, I'd move.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18873667)

I don't get it. The gunfreaks here keep saying that more guns = more safe. Yet your idiot country has more crime than basically any other country where the only people with guns are the police and criminals. Anybody care to explain? I must be missing something.

Originally Posted by Sophie Delancey (Post 18874968)

That's exactly how I feel. Gotta love Canada.

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18874986)

because they all believe the millions and millions of pro-gun propaganda which is churned out by the right wing and i assume people funded by the gun industry.

of course all the facts that say more guns = less violence don't hold up to any scrutiny. just propaganda to keep people spending money on guns.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18875376)

How odd that i'm not getting any answers. I wonder why.

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 18875394)

less guns = less deaths from guns

simple, right?

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18875390)

ask the question again

what country are you in?

a question for a question seems fair

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18875486)

Yeah sure. How about you start with answering one you fucking dumbass. Or is there a problem. It seems very hard to get an answer. I really wonder why.

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18874986)

because they all believe the millions and millions of pro-gun propaganda which is churned out by the right wing and i assume people funded by the gun industry.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18875531)

And still no answer. What is the problem exactly?

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18875575)

answer it yourself :2 cents: lick a frog and the answer will come to you.

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18876626)

Yup, must be it.

Funny how to works. Once these kind of questions need an answer they are suddenly gone from this thread. But they simply go on with the same bullshit in other threads on the mainpage.
Gun nuts are very sad and pathetic people.