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PornoMonster 04-11-2012 01:52 AM

I keep Hearing he was a YOUNG man, Young Kid, maybe the old photo they keep posting. He was 17. At 17 I graduated and was inbasic training knowing I was headed to the Iraq war. 17 year olds can be put away for LIFE in Prison.

Also most peoples stories seem to STOP when the 911 operator said we don't need you to do that.. Why does the story stop, come on finish the story....

People thank the neighbor hood watch people from stopping crimes all the time.

It is unfortunate that a person was killed, I myself can not wait till ALL the facts come out.

But, what about all the Black on Black crime every day? I mean Killings? I guess it is ok to kill your own race.

IF your head was being slammed into the ground with someone ontop of you, How many more blows does it take to be knocked out?

Remember the "kid" was over 6 foot, I have seen lots of MMA and know in a full mount not many can get out of that. I don't think the Chubby Zimmerman was going to.

So, I am not saying what of these facts are true or not, I do not know.

There needs to be a Full Timeline of events and stories.

kane 04-11-2012 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18878608)
I keep Hearing he was a YOUNG man, Young Kid, maybe the old photo they keep posting. He was 17. At 17 I graduated and was inbasic training knowing I was headed to the Iraq war. 17 year olds can be put away for LIFE in Prison.

Also most peoples stories seem to STOP when the 911 operator said we don't need you to do that.. Why does the story stop, come on finish the story....

People thank the neighbor hood watch people from stopping crimes all the time.

It is unfortunate that a person was killed, I myself can not wait till ALL the facts come out.

But, what about all the Black on Black crime every day? I mean Killings? I guess it is ok to kill your own race.

IF your head was being slammed into the ground with someone ontop of you, How many more blows does it take to be knocked out?

Remember the "kid" was over 6 foot, I have seen lots of MMA and know in a full mount not many can get out of that. I don't think the Chubby Zimmerman was going to.

So, I am not saying what of these facts are true or not, I do not know.

There needs to be a Full Timeline of events and stories.

The story stops there because that is the end of the call (as far as I am aware). So what happens after that is not known for sure. All we have to go on is what Zimmerman says and what Trayvon's girlfriend says because he was supposedly on the phone with her when this went down.

It may be awhile until we know exactly what happened and we may never know 100% of the truth.

Here is one reality though. When Trayvon started running away had Zimmerman just got back into his car and waited for the police none of this would have happened. Sure, the suspect might have gotten away, but Zimmerman gets to home to his family and live his life in peace. Instead, he chose to push the issue and pursue the kid. Whatever happened after that he brought onto himself and he needs to be held accountable for his actions.

Zoxxa 04-11-2012 03:14 AM

Have all the details from the investigation been released yet? I didn't think so, maybe they have. I love how 100% fact based everyone's argument is in this thread lol

Bill8 04-11-2012 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18878228)
If you start a conflict with someone then in the middle YOU START TO LOSE you cant then claim self defense.

looks like you can, in florida. thats pretty much exactly what the police claimed.

one good thing that will come of this is a much closer investigation of stand your ground cases, all over the country.

and zimmerman is pretty much fucked, no matter what else happens, he threw away his life when he shot that teenager. so, possibly an object lesson there for future neighborhood watch types.

for a month he thought he was free and clear - then the mediastorm him him from behind. he will be haunted now for the rest of his life, as will that town, and hopefully those police.

in another few months we will have the investigation results - that should be interesting.

I think the kids parents have a decent chance at a civil ruling against the police and the town. Lawyers will be lining up to press those cases, lots of money and fame there.

Bill8 04-11-2012 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18878702)
Have all the details from the investigation been released yet?

not even started being released - it will be months and years before all the forensics and investigations are completed.

Bill8 04-11-2012 03:48 AM

we will know more by friday apparently - the first results of the first investigation are about to be released.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/1...-withdraw.html

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SANFORD -- With prosecutors saying they will announce a decision in the Trayvon Martin case by Friday, George Zimmerman appears to have struck out on his own.

He launched a website without telling his two attorneys, spoke to a talk show host and put in a call to the special prosecutor investigating him for the Feb. 26 shooting of Trayvon Martin. After Zimmerman went AWOL from his lawyers for two days, the attorneys held a press conference late Tuesday afternoon and quit.

Hours later, special prosecutor Angela Corey announced she would make an important announcement in the case in the next 72 hours.

?I?d have to count how many text messages I sent saying: ?Please call me. Please call me collect. Please text me. Please email me. Please, so we can go forward,?? one of Zimmerman?s lawyers, Craig Sonner, said about his former client. ?After I started getting calls from different people saying that he was giving statements to the media, calling the prosecutor?s office and not calling me, that?s when it started dawning on me that I wasn?t the attorney of record anymore.?

Now, the parents of the Miami Gardens teenager Zimmerman shot say they fear the man their lawyers call the ?neighborhood watch loose cannon? will run. For the first time, Sonner and co-counsel Hal Uhrig acknowledged that Zimmerman is ?far from Florida,? but still inside the United States.

?He is well hidden,? Sonner said.

They stressed that they never considered Zimmerman a flight risk, because he always cooperated with law enforcement and was easily reachable by phone. Even now, the attorneys say that a man who is poised to flee the country to avoid possible criminal charges would not check in with the prosecutors who appear poised to arrest him.

?We were a bit astounded,? Uhrig said, stressing that he always tells clients not to talk to prosecutors, cops, reporters or anybody else. ?Now he is telling people: ?I don?t have an attorney. Those guys were just my legal advisers.? I?m not sure what the difference is.?

Sonner said Zimmerman was eager to tell the state attorney his side of the story. ?He wanted to give his statement, and I was going to let him,? Sonner said. ?But he was supposed to call me. Let me make the call. I hope he has found someone else to represent him.?

Zimmerman went into hiding after Sanford Police declined to arrest him for Trayvon?s shooting, sparking nationwide outrage.

Trayvon, 17, a junior at Dr. Michael Krop Senior High School, went for a walk to the store on a rainy Sunday night in Sanford, where he was visiting his father and his father?s girlfriend. Zimmerman called police, saying there was something suspicious about someone who walked too slowly in the rain, seemed high on drugs and appeared to be ?looking about.?

About six minutes later, Trayvon was dead.

The neighborhood watch captain told police that Trayvon approached him from behind, that the two exchanged harsh words and that the boy allegedly hit him hard enough to break his nose. He said Trayvon slammed his head on the concrete, forcing Zimmerman to fire once with the semiautomatic handgun he was licensed to carry on a holster on his waist.

But the investigation that followed was so fraught with problems that it was not long before the case caught the attention of civil rights figures such as the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Intense pressure from around the country grew until Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor and the Sanford police chief took a leave of absence.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/1...#storylink=cpy

Mock NyaMout 04-12-2012 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18878702)
Have all the details from the investigation been released yet? I didn't think so, maybe they have. I love how 100% fact based everyone's argument is in this thread lol

100 percent FACT : YOU ARE RACIST. How is this fact ? you ask ? Only a preference in race could justify such ignorance.

FACT: The BOY (not a racist term) ran. The Adult pursued WHEN NO CRIME was being committed. Therefore he was hunting for blacks. I compare it to a pedophile hunting vunerable children. I can bet you that IF it was a black who did most of crime. More than likely they were 50 year old druggies or real gangsters. Zimmerman was a punk FACT.

Fact he was Arrested for assaulting a officer of the law (Felony) and resisting arrest. HOW THE FUCK DID HE HAVE A GUN.

What if Trayvon was standing his ground ? Fact Zimmerman killed a child who was just like many kids white or black into the hip hop fashion of style. not really a tough guy. The kid was a 6 foot frail oakie guy. We all know the type. Would you be scared of a 17 yr old Howard Stern ?

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