Where do you buy from if you don't mind me asking? Does he have a website?

Less so than testosterone and not in the same way. Gyno basically from deca comes from spike in progestins, not estrogen. It requires a different drug to regulate when on a cycle as well such as bromocriptine, vs arimidex, nolvadex aromasin etc. you would use with test.

Either way, you have to be genetically predisposed to it and taking decent quantities, not simply supplemental amounts ... and as far as i know, there is no greater concern over this risk in either one or the other regardless of quantity of either.

There is really only a few sources you could trust to order online and you have to remember these people are being arrested constantly across the globe. You can search and you will find the right forums that vouch for certain suppliers. That won't stop packages from getting seized however at the post office. You really need to be super careful of this because counterfeit drugs are everywhere and very very dangerous. Anyone can counterfeit this stuff - on top of that, anyone can make it in their bathroom and many people do and you have to worry about the purity of what you are injecting into your body and know its sterile and free of containments which will cause infections or other health consequences.

If you don't know the manufacturer or someone who knows the manufacturer, then you are taking a huge risk healthwise and its not worth it. Better to just get a prescription.

I agree, just found cyp at costco for $53 a 10ml vial so I'm going to call them monday and make sure they can get the stuff... :thumbsup

What you quoted The Squealer as saying is true...BUT, the sources I get mine from are from a list of approved suppliers on a bodybuilding password protected forum that I've been a member of for several years.

And testosterone is pretty much legal and over the counter in almost every country in the world EXCEPT of course here in the "free" United States.

I've even bought it at the airport pharmacy (over the counter) on a trip down to Cancun. (cialis is over the counter there too).

Anyway, my suppliers have a large group of buyers and their reputations are the key to their survival.
And testosterone is so cheap to buy around the world that there just isn't any reason to try and sell fake stuff. It would cost you just as much to sell me a ampule of oil as it does to sell me an amp of test.

Anyway, just wanted to say that in 16 years I've never been ripped off by my overseas sources and I've never had anything seized...nor have any of my friends who use the same folks.

Having said all that...$53 at Costco for 10 ml is a good price. That's $5.30 a ml So it's only a $1.30 more than I'm paying.

Or....you could just drive down to Tijuana, empty and clean a small shampoo bottle. Go to any pharmacy and buy all the testosterone you want over the counter. Put it all in the shampoo bottle. Visit the "donkey show" for fun, then drive back home with your test. :)

But that might be too much fun (and if I went with you we would definitely get in trouble heh-heh)...so the Costco route sounds pretty good to me.

Replacing hormones can be tricky and best left in the hands of a doctor that specializes in it. Some Endo's are good but you should also consider a good Anti-Aging doctor. T is covered by BCBS and should only cost you $15/month.

More isn't better when it comes to T, it's about balance. Too much T converts to E2 and even when you take an aromatase inhibitor like Anastrozole to block estrogen, it then converts to DHT.

If there's too much T in your body, it will find a way to get rid of it.

Testopel
 

I've been using Testopel implant therapy for over three years now, and it is probably the best thing I've ever done for myself.

I was diagnosed with low testosterone when I was around 40. I was at the urologist for a routine visit, and was killing time in the waiting room just reading random pamphlets. I was in relatively good physical shape, with a good sex life, but I came across a number of familiar-sounding symptoms: decreased stamina, lack of motivation, wanting to nap after lunch, and so forth... I mentioned it to the doc, and he was skeptical at first (he actually said, "You don't look like you're low on testosterone..."), but he agreed to test my levels. We were both surprised by the results.

We started with the patch, which irritated my skin. Then we tried the gel (which is applied to the shoulder area), but it made me nervous because I have young children and I was worried that they'd end up absorbing the gel off my skin. The remaining option was getting an implant. Best. Idea. Ever.

My urologist inserts six pellets of Testopel under my skin every four months, and the results have been fantastic. I have more energy, both physically and mentally. I've always been in good shape, and I work out regularly... but the testosterone therapy seems to magnify the results. Plus, I have not noticed any adverse side effects whatsoever. My blood pressure is down, and my bloodwork is actually better than it was before I started therapy.

It is expensive. The procedure runs about $1,500 per visit, with bloodwork on top of that. But if you can afford it -- or if you have good insurance -- it is worth every penny. :thumbsup

"That soft-spoken fellow makes a good point"... ahahahaha :1orglaugh

That video is fucking hilarious, the guy looks like a cross between Ultimate Warrior and the guy from Die Antwoord.

Post of the week. :thumbsup

Sounds like a 3-4mg dose of Xanax and/or a shitload of very very very very fucking very potent weed.

Seriously, Xanax is the greatest thing to come out of the medical world since Acyclovir. Gertude Ellion is an angel as far as I'm concerned.

Or maybe anesthetics. Yeah, that should cut it. :thumbsup

what about the unsightly back and shoulder zits?

That's from using too much. Of course everybody has a different physiology. But I don't have any zits on my body.

and what about tiny balls? or do you use hcg too?

what about high blood pressure from estrogen, and puffiness? do you use arimidex?

actually the dr told me to blow a couple of twinks and I would feel great.. :thumbsup

I'm using 200 mg evry 5 days with is 1/4 of what a muscle guy will use

I don't use enough to cause any of that to happen. You're talking about bodybuilders in the Mr. Olympia contests that have to worry about all that.

And no, I don't use hcg. I simply don't use a big enough dosage of test to require it.

But I feel like a million bucks. I work out 4 days a week at the gym lifting weights (different body parts each day)
I still have my hair. My balls are giant sized (always have been). No body acne.

The puffiness would be from water retention. But again...doing one cc per week (250mg of test) isn't gonna cause enough water retention to even notice.

Just went to the doctor 2 weeks ago (was feeling like I was coming down with the flu). My blood pressure was normal. My heart rate was great (from excercise).

Everybody is different. But for most men...using 1 cc of testosterone per week is going to make them hard and feeling great without any of the side effects that you mentioned.

Ok let me try it this way...which forum? Is it Elite Fitness?

No, I've never been to elite fitness forum. The site I'm referring to is http://www.steroid-encyclopaedia.com/

It has tons of info. Everything from workout programs, supplement info, diet info, etc.

bingo!!!!

...the fuck? :321GFY :1orglaugh

Anyway, I find it hilarious that a whole bunch of posters on GFY have suddenly gone from responsible gun-owning ex-marine cage-fighting millionaire content-shooting MENSA lawyers to middle-aged Sylvester Stallone-esque testosterone needle junkies in the space of 1 single solitary thread. :1orglaugh

Ah ok, thanks man! That is Mick Hart's forum if I'm not mistaken. I thought about joining that in the past but I wasn't sure if it was actually updated... :thumbsup

cage-fighting guys are mostly into injecting themselves too though :2 cents:

I'm a responsible gun owner that's about it :2 cents:

Stay far away from elite fitness! That forum used to be great but then new mods started banning all of the knowledgeable users that would cast doubt on their products.

I was banned from there for posting a medical study about clomid restoring the HPTA of a steroid user. Mod (Nelson Montana) said one didn't exist because it didn't work and if I found one he would shut up on the subject forever... I found one. Got banned for calling him out.

a little off topic but the guy that started bodybuilding.com plead guilty

interesting in the article it says he sold 83% of bodybuilding.com for over $100 million

http://thinksteroids.com/news/ryan-d...investigation/

DAMN!!!! That's insane!

Too much to read, i still come as a whale.

Was sounding good until the talk turned to getting it from other countries and self injections and such. That approach is not for me. Why can't you just swallow a pill or a foul tasting liquid?

self injection is not really an issue.. millions of people are self injecting insulin, and that's everyday... we are doing every 5-7 days in the butt usually. the pills and cream ect don't really work from my experence with the pills BUT they are possibly a great seller online .

I do have a prescription however I'm not opposed to getting it online.. going to see what costo has to say about price... I did just pay $20 for 4, 1ml vials with my ins co-pay, which is $5 per mil and that aint bad...

I'm into a decaying manhood so ...

Also taking it in oral form is bad for your liver and kidneys.

And as we already take so many prescription drugs orally that do that already (like NSAIDS...ibuprofen, etc.)

Nice to see that our collection of resident millionaire Navy SEAL 350IQ brain surgeon fighter pilot 18 inch heavyweight champion studs are still going strong in this thread. :2 cents:

TRT is a widely used form of therapy, its practically common knowledge for men over 40...

I was reading that garlic, oysters, sweet potato are good testosterone boosters or conducive to more natural production. And things like brocolli, cauliflower are good to rid men of excess estrogen as well.

I take it these natural things can't come close to what injections could do?

Yes, for younger men. But once you reach a certain age...your body just will not produce it at a level to keep you fit and feeling good anymore no matter what you do.

Walking and excercise will give you a natural testosterone boost as well. Problem is...it's very short-lived. A few hours later and your free test levels are back to girl levels.

That's why testosterone replacement can really make a huge difference in your life as you age. And when I say "age" I'm talking about most guys over 40. Still young...but not feeling or looking it because of a lack of testosterone.

Anybody under 40 should stay away from doing it.

I personally started when I was 34. But I was doing some things that required me to have a ripped up physique at the time. But now that I'm 50? I can't imagine what life would be like without having proper testosterone levels.