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anexsia 04-26-2012 11:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky (Post 18910782)
Good Luck Boneprone.

I think Private is going about this the wrong way. By attacking a high profile affiliate who embeds videos, a common practice in our industry, they are putting fear in the eyes of other smaller affiliates who do the same. However they are going to lose a lot in the eye of the general affiliates opinion.

A case like this has a lot of meaning to the future of our industry and the current affiliate model. If the courts side with Private on this issue, affiliates will become responsible for verifying the license of the content they are using. Google could even be held accountable for the advertising on search results that link directly to these videos.

I just can't see how this case has merit, beyond the obvious "scare-factor" it is already bringing around the industry.

Money well spent for Private as a company, but Boneprone is the unfortunate and unnecessary sacrificial lamb on what I believe is a misdirected claim.
Huh??? Putting fear into the eyes of smaller affiliates doing the same? You're damn right they should be putting fear into ANYONE using copyright infringement as a promotion method or running an illegal tube site. All day long people on this forum are complaining about illegal tubes and now all of a sudden they support illegal tubes and copyright infringement? There's not a single program I promote that offers you the option of embedding all of their full length videos to run an illegal tube site. It doesn't matter if thousands of other people do it or he's just embedding from other sites, it's still wrong and illegal.

epitome 04-26-2012 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 18911333)
WTF, so they're going after boneprone for embedding videos from the big tube sites. Why not the original tube sites? Nobody ever bothered to go after all the big ones when they were coming up. Now they own every serp. Funny ass shit, I must be missing something.
While it's true that nobody went after the tube sites in the beginning, they are certainly going after them now.

With the AFF staff kissing his ass on boards, Penthouse flying him on their private jet for vacations they pay for etc... and him gleefully posting it all here for everybody to see probably put a giant target on his back. He likely wouldn't be getting those perks unless he was a whale and whales usually have assets that can be taken, especially if they're in the US.

He probably wouldn't even have been on Private's radar if he had just pretended to be a small fish in a big pond. You typically don't waste your money suing somebody if there is nothing to gain except the ability to brag that you won.

A lot of the tubes with full length videos they do not own or license try to conceal ownership, host overseas, keep a low profile people wise, etc. Of course they're going to go after you if you're well known, reside in the US, don't hide what you're websites are, talk about being the biggest affiliate of a public company, etc.

selena 04-27-2012 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18911345)
:2 cents:

I was confused, too.
I was confused as well. I thought it was written in some code that I didn't have the security clearance to understand.

DamianJ 04-27-2012 12:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18910828)
My position is the same as it has always been, innocent until proven guilty.
How many people has Lightspeed proven are guilty in a court of law before trying to extort money from them?

Oh yeah. None.

But you support that.

As I said...odd.

Nurgle 04-27-2012 03:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18911352)
They're coming after the big ones too. xHamster, DrTuber, YouJizz etc, they're sueing them all.
didnt private fail in many of their lawsuits on some of the big guys due to juristiction issues?

SteveLightspeed 04-27-2012 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18911410)
How many people has Lightspeed proven are guilty in a court of law before trying to extort money from them?

Oh yeah. None.

But you support that.

As I said...odd.
Hey DamianJ, why don't you discuss things you know all about, like EMAIL SPAMMING?

In the meantime, maybe you can learn about the REAL ISSUES affecting paysite owners here:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=531373

ps, you are still a CUNT

TheSquealer 04-27-2012 03:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky (Post 18910782)
Good Luck Boneprone.

A case like this has a lot of meaning to the future of our industry and the current affiliate model. If the courts side with Private on this issue, affiliates will become responsible for verifying the license of the content they are using. Google could even be held accountable for the advertising on search results that link directly to these videos.
You're right. God forbid someone actually be aware of the rights they have or don't have to a piece of someone else's content as they use it to generate traffic to their own sites and dating/cam/penis pill sales to other affiliate programs.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Nautilus 04-27-2012 04:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurgle (Post 18911481)
didnt private fail in many of their lawsuits on some of the big guys due to juristiction issues?
In some of them they did, and promised to refile later in another district with more easily provable ties to those tubes. And they also won several cases already, like pornvisit.com lawsuit where they were awarded 4 mil in damages IIRC.

MaDalton 04-27-2012 04:29 AM
since i have an "embedding" problem with my content at the moment, i will be very interested to see the result of this.

but i also have a conflict of interest since Chad used to be my lawyer and BP is a cool guy - so i will sit here and hope that this can be resolved amicably

DamianJ 04-27-2012 04:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 18911517)
Hey DamianJ, why don't you discuss things you know all about, like EMAIL SPAMMING?
Got any proof of me breaking the law?

I think you need it or you get banned here?


Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 18911517)
ps, you are still a CUNT
Possibly, but I don't quasi blackmail people in order to generate revenue then brag about it.

Three questions

1) Why did you stop quasi-blackmailing torrent users last year?
2) How many John Does you tried to extort money from ever went to court?
3) If this is about stopping piracy and not lining your wallet, why don't you go after the initial uploading gangs?

But keep not answering that and calling me a cunt if you want. It does make you look way cool.

Nautilus 04-27-2012 07:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18911779)
I thought the same thing. Then I read how FRASERSIDE went after Xhamster and pretty much failed. They failed because Xhamster was an overseas company and all of Xhamsters servers were outside of the US and it's jurisdiction.
They didn't fail yet because they didn't run out of options so far - they can refile in a district that has some provable ties to xhamster, for example it could be where their cc processing or an advertising company is located. All of them do business with the US in some form or shape, and sooner or later some connection that is good enough to be admitted by court will be found.

Kink.com for example filed a lawsuit against a foreign tube DrTuber in Florida, where their DMCA agent and their billing company is located. If that will be accepted by court as a tie to Florida, that will pave the way for many other similar lawsuits against foreign tubes which will be filed in the US. It's not as hopeless as you picture it.

DaLord 04-27-2012 07:58 AM
So is BoneProne a thief?

Emil 04-27-2012 08:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Lm3m2.jpg

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18911329)
I imagined it took you 3 minutes to cum in my ass! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Looks like my kegal exercises worked for tightening my ass!. Even though I'm fat and ugly, my ass is as tight as a midwest virgin teenager!
You need help, or a segment on a crossdresser variety show.

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18911330)
How would he know how big my dick is if he hasn't seen it since he was 7. Sleazy can't deny that incident in the shower room at summer camp when I saw him naked and he saw me. That's not the kind of thing anyone forgets! There was 7 other kids there that can testify they saw us too!
I honestly don't think we went to the same summer camp Alex....

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18911546)
since i have an "embedding" problem with my content at the moment, i will be very interested to see the result of this.

but i also have a conflict of interest since Chad used to be my lawyer and BP is a cool guy - so i will sit here and hope that this can be resolved amicably
A lot of us on on this page....

most know Boneprone personally and like him, he's been around forever and part of what we consider family in this biz.

And Private is a stand up company in my opinion and seriously produces some of the best adult videos available period.

I agree IF content was stolen, Private has a right to recoup lost revenue. BUT I have no idea if what Boneprone was doing was legal or not.

for me, this is a case where I'd like to see an out of court settlement where both parties are happy.

but all in all I am VERY interested in the outcome.

Intrinsic 04-27-2012 10:53 AM
more traffic than god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

epitome 04-27-2012 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaLord (Post 18911853)
So is BoneProne a thief?
That is TBD.

I will say this much... I always figured he had some innovative ways of making money and was a smart cookie who "got it."

If it turns out that a big part of his success was embedding full length scenes from companies that didn't give him permission, then I will have no respect for him.

It's much easier to get to the top of this industry if you're cutting corners. I have respect for the people who do it ethically as they are fewer and further between.

Piracy hurts everyone from the biggest programs to the smallest affiliate.

baddog 04-27-2012 11:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18911410)
How many people has Lightspeed proven are guilty in a court of law before trying to extort money from them?

Oh yeah. None.

But you support that.

As I said...odd.
It appears to me that he is giving them their day in court if they want it. What am I missing? And since a court backed Steve's play, I would say that he is playing by the rules, you just do not seem to like them.

At least that is how it is coming across here.

Is Private extorting money from BP?

L-Pink 04-27-2012 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18912156)
That is TBD.

I will say this much... I always figured he had some innovative ways of making money and was a smart cookie who "got it."

If it turns out that a big part of his success was embedding full length scenes from companies that didn't give him permission, then I will have no respect for him.

It's much easier to get to the top of this industry if you're cutting corners. I have respect for the people who do it ethically as they are fewer and further between.

Piracy hurts everyone from the biggest programs to the smallest affiliate.
:2 cents:

.

Just Alex 04-27-2012 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912104)
I honestly don't think we went to the same summer camp Alex....
Camp fantasies? Daddy did touch you at night? :1orglaugh
Fucking creep.

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18912305)
What he is/was at this point is irrelevant. BoneProne was setup and played..

FRASERSIDE could of went after thousands of sites similar like BP. So why BoneProne? As mentioned earlier, FRASERSIDE spent a lot of money going after Xhamster as this went basically nowhere. IMO, it has everything to do with BP affiliation with FFN. Most all tubes main sponsor is Friend Finders Network of sites.

Nautilus brought up some good points:



Although the process could happen it would go nowhere because a US court can't find foreign Tubes like Xhamster guilty of anything because they are out of their jurisdiction. They can "try" and sue their business associates, but it does not work that way and will again, go nowhere. Why?- to be liable affiliated companies like FFN or CC processors would have to knowingly understand what these tubes are doing is illegal as this has yet to be proven.

Meaning, if I rented a car from Hurtz, then robbed a bunch of pawnshops for cash and gold and didn't get caught and returned the vehicle. Then did it over and over again until I did get caught, Should Hurtz be partly responsible because I rented the getaway car or are they liable because they made a profit from my rental? No, because they didn't know my true intent and if they did, the pawn shops lawyers would have to prove it.

So why Boneprone?

Two reasons, he's the mouthpiece for FFN who gets a majority of their traffic and generates a lot revenue from the tubes as FFN pays out a lot of money to the tube owners. FFN is a "public" company as their stock has taken a -85% hit this year makes them vulnerable as their overall sales are down -13%.

Second, BP is in the US and if found liable, will open the door to other suits for the US tube associates. Meaning, the won court case will be public and a legal reverence point proving other US business associates are profiting from tubes as they now are also liable.

This leaves BP in a very bad position because if he rolls over they will make him an example for others as FFN sales and share prices fall due to others like him are afraid they'll be next. If he fights then he'll need to find a boatload of cash to win as this will go on for a year or more, but if he loses they'll bankrupt him and make him the poster boy for stolen tube content. In short, pinning him as the reason/pirate for the many more suits to follow in the future.

notice how I'm wording this, I'm do such cause you have made some really good points so far

forgive me but I see a major logic failure in your argument comparing renting a car and liability and embedding video....?????

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912321)
I have Camp fantasies where my Daddy touches me at night! :1orglaugh
Fucking creep does it by force, I pretend not to like it but really I do!
Are you on drugs?

IllTestYourGirls 04-27-2012 01:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18912305)
Meaning, if I rented a car from Hurtz, then robbed a bunch of pawnshops for cash and gold and didn't get caught and returned the vehicle. Then did it over and over again until I did get caught, Should Hurtz be partly responsible because I rented the getaway car or are they liable because they made a profit from my rental? No, because they didn't know my true intent and if they did, the pawn shops lawyers would have to prove it.
Or how about a pizza delivery guy who, without knowing, rented a stolen car from Hertz, made money making pizza deliveries and then gets sued by the person who Hertz stole the car from?

Not taking any sides just playing devils advocate.

Just Alex 04-27-2012 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912358)
Are you on drugs?
Creepy at level red. You would think that grown adult would not... but wait. Its fucking loser sleazy from armpit of Canada - fat, broke and lonely retyping his own fantasies in others posts. :1orglaugh
jesus sleazy, how do you wake up every morning and don't pull the trigger of your shotgun?

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912402)
I'm Creepy and a grown adult... but wait... I can dream of fucking loser sleazy from Canada - even though I'm fat, broke and lonely replying to him I wake up every morning and don't pull the trigger of my shotgun
Why do you keep stalking me? what's with the obsession?

Why 04-27-2012 02:59 PM
or Private will pay BP to settle out of court, BP loses his sites, but gets an out(as he claimed they weren't making much anyways). Private then sets an example they can use as leverage against others that are doing the same thing, without ever letting a court decide the legality of embedding. Since BP is seen as a "baller" anyone else they go after will assume he couldnt fight his way out and neither can they, and will also settle.

something sorta similar to acacia.

just remember folks, not all lawsuits are real, some are just posturing with no intent to really do much. and this industry is well known for doing it.

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Why (Post 18912536)
or Private will pay BP to settle out of court, BP loses his sites, but gets an out(as he claimed they weren't making much anyways). Private then sets an example they can use as leverage against others that are doing the same thing, without ever letting a court decide the legality of embedding. Since BP is seen as a "baller" anyone else they go after will assume he couldnt fight his way out and neither can they, and will also settle.

something sorta similar to acacia.

just remember folks, not all lawsuits are real, some are just posturing with no intent to really do much. and this industry is well known for doing it.
that might be real, and the grassy knoll theory of who shot Kennedy might be real too

reality is... Private is sick and tired of being stolen from, and hired a lawyer. If Bone did it, he's in trouble. I pray he wasn't using stolen content.

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912414)
Why do you keep stalking me? what's with the obsession?
Do you like cock?

http://yessignals.com/images/frontlogo.jpg
http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...372/z03912.jpg

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:13 PM
Don't answer fat ass.

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...i05/z00526.jpg

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912551)
ummm, your obsession with me is getting very weird Alex. it would have taken you an hour to dig that up, unless you're secretly keeping photos of me, which is even weirder....

Have you ever spoken to a therapist about it?

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912558)
ummm, your obsession with me is getting very weird Alex.

Have to spoken to a therapist about it?
Homo, whats that red shit on your face? :2 cents:

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912561)
I'm a Homo, whats that red shit on your face? :2 cents:
Sorry to disappoint, it's called acne. You can pretend it's your red cum all over my face if that helps you get through the night......

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912563)
it's called Genital herpes. I like to pretend it's your red cum all over my face and it helps me get through the night......
Fuck off, you creep.. Genital herpes? Human or dog herpes?

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912567)
Fuck me, I'm a creep!!!!.. I have genital herpes! I'm not sure if I got it from a Human or dog though
Alex, you should really talk to a therapist. They might be able to help just to get some of this off your mind. If you don't, it'll mess you up even worse.

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912573)
Its dog herpes. The very last jizz my poodle had, I kept it on. I love cock. JFK's cock, dog cock. I fucked a dolphin once
http://www.hjorleifson.com/me/dolphin.jpg
Everything goes.

speachless
:disgust:helpme

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:35 PM
Nothing spells "yes signal" than this shirt.

Tiger winner shirt :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...r/DSC_0108.JPG

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912582)
I'm speachless with my love for you
ummm, ok, .............

SleazyDream 04-27-2012 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18912583)
I can see your "yes signal" for me in every post.

I want to be your Tiger and tear your shirt off

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/archi...r/DSC_0108.JPG
Alex, I think you might be having a mental breakdown. Why the obsession with me?

Just Alex 04-27-2012 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18912589)
Alex, I get paid in cock these days.
None of my biz, freak.


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