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anexsia 04-25-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18908147)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Don't listen to anyone, your exgf content is great and you're right, so many "professional" shooters get it so wrong.

I've promoted a lot of professionally done exgf content and also a lot of real/amateur exgf content and the professionally done stuff converts like SHIT. I love real EXGF content and it aggravates me seeing some of the programs on this forum churn out their latest "EXGFS EXPOSED!!!" sites and have pornstars on their tour or photos that look like the photographer tried to get a model to act like a teen taking self nude shots...and just failed miserably.

NaughtyRob 04-25-2012 09:42 AM

And I don't? :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18907343)
agreed. you and adendreams know how to shoot ex-gf - not many others do.


Paul 04-25-2012 10:17 AM

Good thread till PM came into it and ruined it like he does with every other thread.

Ninavain how do you recruit models on Facebook? Via a fan page or do you just contact girls you like the look of?

epitome 04-25-2012 10:42 AM

LOL at the people talking about an ID possibly being fake when you're most likely promoting ex-gf sites that use scraped content.

Newsflash, when you buy content off somebody that they film themselves, they are the producer of said content. You can be given a fake ID in person just as easily as online (Bianca Moore and many others).

You do not need to physically inspect the actual ID, just like you don't when you buy content from another producer. You get docs. You get them with photos of the ID next to their face and you get a secondary form of ID ... that isn't even required by law, you just do it to show you're performing due diligence.

Does VS, which is US based make models FedEx their physical ID for inspection? Of course not.

Does Homegrown visit the home of everybody that sells them content to inspect ID's? Of course not.

Know the law before you spout off about things you know about.

Better yet, keep your mouth shut if you promote any exgf program that scrapes content off the internet.

Be happy that there are people out there doing it the right way.

ninavain 04-25-2012 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18908324)
LOL at the people talking about an ID possibly being fake when you're most likely promoting ex-gf sites that use scraped content.

Newsflash, when you buy content off somebody that they film themselves, they are the producer of said content. You can be given a fake ID in person just as easily as online (Bianca Moore and many others).

You do not need to physically inspect the actual ID, just like you don't when you buy content from another producer. You get docs. You get them with photos of the ID next to their face and you get a secondary form of ID ... that isn't even required by law, you just do it to show you're performing due diligence.

Does VS, which is US based make models FedEx their physical ID for inspection? Of course not.

Does Homegrown visit the home of everybody that sells them content to inspect ID's? Of course not.

Know the law before you spout off about things you know about.

Better yet, keep your mouth shut if you promote any exgf program that scrapes content off the internet.

Be happy that there are people out there doing it the right way.

well said, my good man, well said:thumbsup

grumpy 04-25-2012 12:05 PM

so a piercing is key i presume?

Dirty F 04-25-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18908137)
why don't you ask Theo you fucking troll bitch :thumbsup

How the fuck is he supposed to know who sits behind the computer? You dumb spamming cunt.

ninavain 04-25-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18908517)
How the fuck is he supposed to know who sits behind the computer? You dumb spamming cunt.

he knows who he activated the username for, you cocksucking loser.. and why do you give two shits, you're nothing BUT a bitch that posts all the damn time. Get with the program, boy

DWB 04-25-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908125)

Professionals will churn out this content all day long. All you have to do is be able to afford it. Or stay with girls on FB.

This is simply not true. The problem is that 99% of the "professionals" can't actually dumb their shoots down to make the content look authentic. They can't take themselves out of the equation, and this is why they sell crappy GF content.

Forget about what it costs to make. That is irrelevant. It has to be authentic if it's going to sell, and time, and time, and time again, "professionals" are unable to create it. You can't shoot authentic GF content in a studio, in a clean room or bathroom. It doesn't work. It's not real. It doesn't look real. These whores all live in dirty apartments, marks on their mirrors, clothes hanging about, messy dressers, and so on. Unless you go to their house and turn them loose with a camera, most professionals will screw these types of simple shoots up. That's all there is to it. Not for $300, not for $3000, the result is the same, FAKE looking ex-gf content.

You can count the guys who come up with good authentic looking GF content on one hand.

If you want the best GF content, get it from the girls directly. There is no "producer" in realistic GF content, because there is nothing to produce. Therefor, it would never, ever cost $6000 (or even $600) to create, because you, the producer, is not needed. All that is needed is some guy telling a girl to give him photos and he'll pay her. He doesn't even have to know how to turn a camera on. Difficult concept sometimes for a producer to grasp, but that's how it is now.

Paul, I have a lot of respect for you as producer and a vet in the biz, but you're missing the bigger picture here. Guys who can do what you did are few and far between. Guys who can shoot for Met-Art are few and far between. And while it may be more rewarding from a creative point of view (because the financial rewards for such things are over), when it comes time to cashing checks these days, being creative takes a back seat. However, these days a guy doesn't even have to know how to work a camera and he can still make money from girls willing to do all the work for him. That is brilliant on another level. AND IT SELLS!!!! The more amateur it is, the better it sells. The shittier you think it looks, the more money it will probably make. There is no waiting months to collect, they can sell it right away because it's cheap. Think Walmart, not Gucci.

What you did is dead and gone. Those types of dollar amounts, gone. Not even worth talking about, because those days are never coming back. Ever. Neither are my DVD sales that I used to make good money on. Gone. Swallow the pill that you don't have to be great or professional to make money anymore, even if they dollar amount per set is lower than it used to be. But production is cheaper than it used to be too, as is equipment. It's a hard pill to swallow, but the entire industry changed, like it or not, and this is where we are. All of us. Professionals and non-professionals. Now, everyone just does what they can do keep moving forward. I too wish the "good 'ol days" would come back but they never will.

It does you a great disservice to discredit this type of content, be it for quality or price, and really makes you look like you can not adapt or understand what has happened around you. You could cash in on it too and make supplemental income without doing anything at all other than turning girls loose with a camera. IMHO, that is what I would be doing if I was you and retired. Find the girls, let them do all the work, and you sell it at a fair, competitive price. But the trick to the whole thing, is taking "Paul Markham" out of the equation. There can be no you involved in creating the content, or it won't be authentic. That is the key.

I'd rather see you back to making money and having adapted to the crazy industry we're in now than beating dead horses on GFY. You have skills to shoot, there is no denying that, but they are no longer needed to make money. The only skill needed is the skill to sell the content someone else shoots (cheaply) for you. THAT is what you need to get your head around.

nikki99 04-25-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18907335)

Rule #2 Hi quality photos is ironic and doesn't make sense in this niche..some blurry, some not as big as others, some that looks like ex Bf took them as well.

Hiring NALEM for some XGF content right now

fitty :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-25-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 18908247)
Good thread till PM came into it and ruined it like he does with every other thread.

Sorry if my pointing out most of you can't afford to invest in your businesses upsets you. You see I come from a business where investing in what we did was normal.

Met Art and a host of other top sites didn't get where they are today without a lot of investment.

Anyway sharing advice like Nina is, isn't the cleverest business model. Now you're asking her to walk you through her process. How about she just finds them for you and sends them straight to you. :upsidedow

epitome will you tell that to the judge when you're in court for publishing CP?

Nine, go ask a lawyer, don't listen to people on a board when it comes to your freedom.

Dirty F 04-25-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18908561)
he knows who he activated the username for, you cocksucking loser.. and why do you give two shits, you're nothing BUT a bitch that posts all the damn time. Get with the program, boy

Jesus christ, are you really THIS fucking stupid or what. Once again retard, how can Theo possibly know who is posting under what nick. Imbecile.

homegrownmof 04-25-2012 01:13 PM

Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

When will it end?

ninavain 04-25-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18908598)
This is simply not true. The problem is that 99% of the "professionals" can't actually dumb their shoots down to make the content look authentic. They can't take themselves out of the equation, and this is why they sell crappy GF content.

Forget about what it costs to make. That is irrelevant. It has to be authentic if it's going to sell, and time, and time, and time again, "professionals" are unable to create it. You can't shoot authentic GF content in a studio, in a clean room or bathroom. It doesn't work. It's not real. It doesn't look real. These whores all live in dirty apartments, marks on their mirrors, clothes hanging about, messy dressers, and so on. Unless you go to their house and turn them loose with a camera, most professionals will screw these types of simple shoots up. That's all there is to it. Not for $300, not for $3000, the result is the same, FAKE looking ex-gf content.

You can count the guys who come up with good authentic looking GF content on one hand.

If you want the best GF content, get it from the girls directly. There is no "producer" in realistic GF content, because there is nothing to produce. Therefor, it would never, ever cost $6000 (or even $600) to create, because you, the producer, is not needed. All that is needed is some guy telling a girl to give him photos and he'll pay her. He doesn't even have to know how to turn a camera on. Difficult concept sometimes for a producer to grasp, but that's how it is now.

Paul, I have a lot of respect for you as producer and a vet in the biz, but you're missing the bigger picture here. Guys who can do what you did are few and far between. Guys who can shoot for Met-Art are few and far between. And while it may be more rewarding from a creative point of view (because the financial rewards for such things are over), when it comes time to cashing checks these days, being creative takes a back seat. However, these days a guy doesn't even have to know how to work a camera and he can still make money from girls willing to do all the work for him. That is brilliant on another level. AND IT SELLS!!!! The more amateur it is, the better it sells. The shittier you think it looks, the more money it will probably make. There is no waiting months to collect, they can sell it right away because it's cheap. Think Walmart, not Gucci.

What you did is dead and gone. Those types of dollar amounts, gone. Not even worth talking about, because those days are never coming back. Ever. Neither are my DVD sales that I used to make good money on. Gone. Swallow the pill that you don't have to be great or professional to make money anymore, even if they dollar amount per set is lower than it used to be. But production is cheaper than it used to be too, as is equipment. It's a hard pill to swallow, but the entire industry changed, like it or not, and this is where we are. All of us. Professionals and non-professionals. Now, everyone just does what they can do keep moving forward. I too wish the "good 'ol days" would come back but they never will.

It does you a great disservice to discredit this type of content, be it for quality or price, and really makes you look like you can not adapt or understand what has happened around you. You could cash in on it too and make supplemental income without doing anything at all other than turning girls loose with a camera. IMHO, that is what I would be doing if I was you and retired. Find the girls, let them do all the work, and you sell it at a fair, competitive price. But the trick to the whole thing, is taking "Paul Markham" out of the equation. There can be no you involved in creating the content, or it won't be authentic. That is the key.

I'd rather see you back to making money and having adapted to the crazy industry we're in now than beating dead horses on GFY. You have skills to shoot, there is no denying that, but they are no longer needed to make money. The only skill needed is the skill to sell the content someone else shoots (cheaply) for you. THAT is what you need to get your head around.

this is just brilliant:thumbsup:thumbsup

ninavain 04-25-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by homegrownmof (Post 18908695)
Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

When will it end?

thank you:thumbsup

nikki99 04-25-2012 02:12 PM

DWB now I know why my selfshot mirror pics to my cock DOES sell :thumbsup

ninavain 04-25-2012 02:25 PM

http://imagecdn.clips4sale.com/accou..._200730759.gif:thumbsup:thumbsup

Far-L 04-25-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18908831)
thank you:thumbsup

I have to agree and bow to your genius concerning this type of content - and I agree with Mutt that you and Adendreams are part of a very small group of pro producers that "get it". If you don't mind I am going to incorporate much of what you suggested into our shooting guidelines for producers.

Paul Markham 04-25-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof (Post 18908695)
Paul you are so clearly out of line here it is insane.

Ninavain has nailed that ex-gf niche

You're still hyping 90s content, and in the midst of that trying to tell Ninavain how to shoot.

When will it end?

Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better.

DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?

uniquemkt 04-25-2012 02:56 PM

I think it is fair to say that the market for Glam content doesn't overlap so heavily with the Homemade content market. It is a different product for a different customer. From what I've seen, the Homemade product is gaining ground fast.

I see threads on GFY about how much time people are spending with post-production, how much they're spending on cameras, etc.. That is a different product, for a different customer, in a different (enough) market.

The ultimate ex-gf/homemade content is shot by the girl with a cell phone in a bathroom. Angie Varona unwittingly did it right.

ninavain 04-25-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908917)
Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better.

DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?

the GIF is the girl holding the camera herself..in the full video she moves it around talks to it and then fucks herself in the asshole until she screams and cum...I was at home a block away taking a nap..gave her the camera and told her I need 3 hours of footage..and pay $100 per hour..and "Ninavain" is a board name..you are talking to a man...a man that knows how to make money on very little..here's sales from clips4sale based on my cheap world content...1 customer...1 purchase about an hour ago

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-syBoRmuzGw...0/Picture3.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HGhCc9kkrC...0/Picture2.jpg

DWB 04-25-2012 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908917)
DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them.

My point is very valid. It just hasn't sunk in yet what is happening around you. I'm a producer too and I too used to make a lot of money via other methods, so I know first hand that this is a hard pill to swallow. But the sooner you do, the faster you will get caught up with the times and making money again.

You can count on two hands the companies who will pay top dollar for glam these days. However, you can't count the number of people and companies who will pay a few hundred bucks for some good GF content.

So you can spend a ton in production and hope to sell it to someone who may or may not be buying, or you can spend very little on production (acquiring content) and sell it for a smaller amount to many others who ARE buying. It's 2012, where do you think the money is? Unless you have a full time gig with Manwin, it's in cheaper content sold at lower prices.

"Amateur" is massivly in and like it or not, it's only getting bigger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908917)
But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

The FB girls are not selling it to end users. They are selling it to a middle man.

You can sell it just as much as anyone else sells theirs and pay no more or no less for it. You have a whole country full of untapped hotties over there to poach.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908917)
However I know people who can shoot that all day long

Yet, they are not doing it. Perhaps holding out for those big $3000+ gigs that don't come anymore?

All I'm saying is, stop knocking it and try making money with it. You don't have anything else to do, and you obviously have the sales skills to sell to magazines, so I know you can sell content to webmasters, even if they are cheap. I'd be doing the same thing if I didn't have my own sites that kept me busy.

Dirty F 04-25-2012 03:45 PM

So Simon, why don't you explain to us why you keep posting under different names.
You dumb white trash piece of shit.

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18909016)
So Simon, why don't you explain to us why you keep posting under different names.
You dumb white trash piece of shit.

contribute to the discussion or get the fuck out of here with that old dry ass fake drama bullshit..the industry is in a tail spin and you want to play Billy Badass on some dumb shit, you look like a fucking tool right now

Dirty F 04-25-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18909039)
contribute to the discussion or get the fuck out of here with that old dry ass fake drama bullshit..the industry is in a tail spin and you want to play Billy Badass on some dumb shit, you look like a fucking tool right now

So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?

homegrownmof 04-25-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18908917)
Yes, she has got a supply that matches her budget.

It has nothing to do with 90s content and that's distracting from my point. Do you pay $3,000 for a BG video and set as a norm?

You and I met years ago when you were interested in buying my Astral Blue content. I didn't move away from that to where I ended up because Amateur paid better

DWB's point is invalid. We just give the girl the instructions for the shoot and let her go and shoot it. Girls who turn up on castings and done no work, so no preconceived ideas of how it should look. Or we give the camera to a guy who cant shoot, but has the gift of the gab so able to talk girls into it and get the reaction from them. But we can't compete with the prices girls on FB charge. And to be honest, we don't want to.

For those who can produce Met Art, Saboom, even Brazzers level. The market still exists and the higher you climb the less the competition and the more that are willing to pay. Operating at the bottom is saturated and the demand is low. So the ability to invest in ones business is limited.

Nina, the gif looks professional and nothing like what you and DWB are describing. However I know people who can shoot that all day long, what are you paying?

********** i recall meeting, it was at the Venetian. But i never wanted your Astral Blue content- i wanted the girls. And it would have taken me forever to do what DWB posted above- explain how you need to take "Paul Markham" out of the picture and just make it about the amateur girls.

************ i do recall you giving me the same lecture about how much $$ you can make by selling to mags. Same shit different year.

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18909045)
So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?

this is the nick theo opened for me..so ask him..now if you don't mind, grown ass men are conducting business..hell even Paul is above your punk ass in this thread

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18909045)
So why exactly do you post on different names? Care to explain? Is that he one should run a business you think?

seriously, does my NIC make you jack off in the middle of the night :helpme

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homegrownmof (Post 18909049)
********** i recall meeting, it was at the Venetian. But i never wanted your Astral Blue content- i wanted the girls. And it would have taken me forever to do what DWB posted above- explain how you need to take "Paul Markham" out of the picture and just make it about the amateur girls.

************ i do recall you giving me the same lecture about how much $$ you can make by selling to mags. Same shit different year.

truth:thumbsup:thumbsup

Dirty F 04-25-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18909050)
this is the nick theo opened for me..so ask him..now if you don't mind, grown ass men are conducting business..hell even Paul is above your punk ass in this thread

Really? Nina was also posting under this nick. And you were also using another nick.
Weren't you even banned with 1 nick for your constant spamming?
I have no idea why people still do business with you. In the offline world someone with your business "skills" wouldn't be able to sell anything. You are very lucky this business full of dumb sleazebags (like yourself) exists.
You are pure white trash. Of the worst kind. A very low iq. Agressive, no manners whatsoever, no clue about anything. If it wasn't for the internet your daily life would consist of shooting cans outside your trailer.

Anybody who thinks about doing business with this idiot should look up some threads from the past. Mainly for the nick Simonsinister.

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18909063)
Really? Nina was also posting under this nick. And you were also using another nick.
Weren't you even banned with 1 nick for your constant spamming?
I have no idea why people still do business with you. In the offline world someone with your business "skills" wouldn't be able to sell anything. You are very lucky this business full of dumb sleazebags (like yourself) exists.
You are pure white trash. Of the worst kind. A very low iq. Agressive, no manners whatsoever, no clue about anything. If it wasn't for the internet your daily life would consist of shooting cans outside your trailer.

Anybody who thinks about doing business with this idiot should look up some threads from the past. Mainly for the nick Simonsinister.

lol..thanks for the trip down memory lane Marty McFly:1orglaugh


now for more samples
btw..this is award winner Andy San Dimas ( I brought her to vegas in 07 and introduced her to the game) You can thank me for that
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aNMLo4zZ6V...0/IMG_3282.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sqHpmA3KHC...0/IMG_3299.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YcQfJbJUls...0/DSC01569.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Et0CGTfPvw...9d2772bcc5.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D2P0d57Gkg...rselfpix33.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BgZHBhSMk3...0/IMG_1291.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NCO-X7FNhc...0/IMG_1347.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mrLHhTsEFD...ellphone28.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Wj3Zp9_6zU...ellphone16.jpg

that last girl turned out to be fantastic, gave some great bjs and hjs..good fuck too
http://imagecdn.clips4sale.com/accou...%20copy_19.gif

mineistaken 04-25-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 18907479)
Or, if shot properly, sell it for $300 non-exclusive and sell it 10 times.

Who would buy ex gf non exclusive for 300$ ?

ninavain 04-25-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 18909085)
Who would buy ex gf non exclusive for 300$ ?

every fucking body:1orglaugh

mineistaken 04-25-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18909096)
every fucking body:1orglaugh

At least on this forum I see people selling in 10$ or 25$ price range, why would they sell that if everybody would pay 20 times more?

ninavain 04-25-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 18909107)
At least on this forum I see people selling in 10$ or 25$ price range, why would they sell that if everybody would pay 20 times more?

fuck I don't know..is it legal? If so, show me that shit and I'll buy some myself
I have 5k pix and 100 videos for my $300 package it's fair and it's not too much

mineistaken 04-25-2012 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18909109)
fuck I don't know..is it legal? If so, show me that shit and I'll buy some myself
I have 5k pix and 100 videos for my $300 package it's fair and it's not too much

Thats of course fair.

Talk was about one big picture set (of one chick going to the mall, getting back posing with 10 outfits etc) selling for that much (Paul was implying 300$ as exclusive price and somebody said "why not sell it 10 times as non exclusive")
So would many pay 300$ non exclusive for a PICTURE set of ONE model?

globofun 04-25-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18907432)
The problem is getting 18+ girls to do this. By the time they have become 18 they have heard many stories of girls being found out, blackmailed, bullied, taunted and exposed.


By old perverts?


ninavain 04-25-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18909126)
By old perverts?


creeeepppy

looky_lou 04-25-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 18909116)
Thats of course fair.

Talk was about one big picture set (of one chick going to the mall, getting back posing with 10 outfits etc) selling for that much (Paul was implying 300$ as exclusive price and somebody said "why not sell it 10 times as non exclusive")
So would many pay 300$ non exclusive for a PICTURE set of ONE model?

1 model hired for the day = 6-10 photo sets of 100-200 pics each, plus 2-4 teasing and or masturbation videos 10-20 min in length.

Cost to produce in the US = $300.00 - $500.00 for the model + your time.

Tell her to bring all of her own club dresses, heels, bikinis, bras, panties, worn out jeans, dildos, bongs, etc. Maybe she could even bring her own cat of dog along with its food bowl :)

Use you own iPhone. Go to the mall and buy 10 different fake designer and humorous cases for your phone and change them up throughout the shoot with each outfit.

Ideal is to find a nice average model with a really hair bush that is willing to shave it. Shoot some sets with the full bush. Then give her a shorter, well trimmed look for a few sets. Buzz it to a landing strip for a few sets. Finish up with a set of the actual shaving and then a few sets fully shaved.

If you can't sell this for $300.00 non-exclusive 10 times. Quit! But, if shot and done properly, this should be no problem.

mineistaken 04-25-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by looky_lou (Post 18909163)
1 model hired for the day = 6-10 photo sets of 100-200 pics each, plus 2-4 teasing and or masturbation videos 10-20 min in length.

Cost to produce in the US = $300.00 - $500.00 for the model + your time.

Tell her to bring all of her own club dresses, heels, bikinis, bras, panties, worn out jeans, dildos, bongs, etc. Maybe she could even bring her own cat of dog along with its food bowl :)

Use you own iPhone. Go to the mall and buy 10 different fake designer and humorous cases for your phone and change them up throughout the shoot with each outfit.

Ideal is to find a nice average model with a really hair bush that is willing to shave it. Shoot some sets with the full bush. Then give her a shorter, well trimmed look for a few sets. Buzz it to a landing strip for a few sets. Finish up with a set of the actual shaving and then a few sets fully shaved.

If you can't sell this for $300.00 non-exclusive 10 times. Quit! But, if shot and done properly, this should be no problem.

Do you suggest making only "self shot" style in this case? Or mix it up with "boyfriend shot"?

Also what if its done as you say but no nude photos (just underwear)? Would that still sell, just for less money, like 150$ non exclusive x 10 times or it won't sell nearly as good?


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