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Originally Posted by DWB
(Post 18908988)
My point is very valid. It just hasn't sunk in yet what is happening around you. I'm a producer too and I too used to make a lot of money via other methods, so I know first hand that this is a hard pill to swallow. But the sooner you do, the faster you will get caught up with the times and making money again.
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Making money paying a model and shooting scenes for a few hundred bucks for a good Ex Gf scene. :1orglaugh
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You can count on two hands the companies who will pay top dollar for glam these days. However, you can't count the number of people and companies who will pay a few hundred bucks for some good GF content.
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Yes and those up there are making money.
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So you can spend a ton in production and hope to sell it to someone who may or may not be buying, or you can spend very little on production (acquiring content) and sell it for a smaller amount to many others who ARE buying. It's 2012, where do you think the money is? Unless you have a full time gig with Manwin, it's in cheaper content sold at lower prices.
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Yes the business has changed, it5's now all about pennies for content.
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"Amateur" is massivly in and like it or not, it's only getting bigger.
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On the consumer side or the supplier side?
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The FB girls are not selling it to end users. They are selling it to a middle man.
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Agreed, that's how most shooters made enough to retire on.
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You can sell it just as much as anyone else sells theirs and pay no more or no less for it. You have a whole country full of untapped hotties over there to poach.
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Yes, give me a price and requirements and I will see if it's cost effective. Situation is Madalton who still works isn't bothering with it. However new girs here are thin in the ground. they don't want to do sex scenes that will be seen by the world for a few hundred bucks.
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Yet, they are not doing it. Perhaps holding out for those big $3000+ gigs that don't come anymore?
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which is why I decided to retire on the money I made for the $3,000+ gigs that used to come.
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All I'm saying is, stop knocking it and try making money with it. You don't have anything else to do, and you obviously have the sales skills to sell to magazines, so I know you can sell content to webmasters, even if they are cheap. I'd be doing the same thing if I didn't have my own sites that kept me busy.
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Because of the profit margin.
I appreciate what you're saying. The business has changed tremendously. It's now dominated by people working in one/two man bands. With little money to invest and only able to work at the bottom of the ladder. The reason is they simply don't have the budgets to climb up to the level where Met Art and a lot more can operate. So they get into niches anyone can get into and it seems a lot do. This means the demand for their version of it is low. This has never changed in porn. It was true in 1980 and true today.
I'm knocking not just Nina but all the Ex Gf site owners and their attitude that we
can't shoot it. We're bright enough to give girls a camera and tell them to do it themselves. Or find a good looking guy with charm to shoot girls as a BF would. There are others here who can go onto the Czech sections of FB and look for girls, or Polish, Hungarian, Rumanian, etc. Do they?
Maybe they do, I have no idea. Or maybe the price dictates the site owners have to do it themselves. As there's not enough money to pay a middle man. If there is enough, there's the solution. Instead of them trawling English speaking social networks they get others in less costly place to trawl locally.
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Originally Posted by homegrownmof
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********** i recall meeting, it was at the Venetian. But i never wanted your Astral Blue content- i wanted the girls. And it would have taken me forever to do what DWB posted above- explain how you need to take "Paul Markham" out of the picture and just make it about the amateur girls.
************ i do recall you giving me the same lecture about how much $$ you can make by selling to mags. Same shit different year.
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No we came down to San Diego and you and someone else took me and my wife out to lunch to buy my Astral Blue content. I wasn't selling at the price you were offering. Probably because I could make more money then selling to others. That's the nature of business.
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Originally Posted by mineistaken
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Who would buy ex gf non exclusive for 300$ ?
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No one, otherwise there would be a deluge of people shooting sets for $3,000. Because anyone can shoot what Ex Gf needs. Or get a person to shoot it who isn't pro.
