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Evil Chris 04-30-2012 12:39 PM

A friend of mine went through the "make my own beer & wine" phase.

The beer was never very good. Gave us all a lot of gas.
The wine wasn't too bad, especially the whites. In particular the pinot grigio was good.


You eventually lose interest and go back to buying your own, though.
Anyway, have fun.

SleazyDream 04-30-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18917154)
You'd be surprised at top restaurants using cheap wine to cook with. For deglazing a pan you're not going to see much difference between $6 plonk, and Chateau Petrus, other than the $1900 price difference. Much like Olive oil, cooking with vs drizzling at the end, there's no need to go high end.

I once ran into a neighbor in the LCBO, who was browsing the Vintages section looking for "a good Burgundy" I asked her what it was to be paired with.. she responded, it was to go in a Beef Bourguignon. The book said the better the wine, the better the dish. So I directed her to a $12 Aussie Pinot instead. During the cooking process, much of the subtle differences that separate a great wine from a tolerable wine, are lost.

I'm not saying cook with a $1900 wine.

I am saying cooking with a sugar wine in any way where you can taste the wine in the food or the sauce is bad advise.

A $120 wine kits produce about 30 bottles of wine at $4-$5 each - equivalent to a $15-$20 bottle of wine from the wine store. I'm saying that's the kind of wine one should be cooking with - NOT the crap wine some people have talked about in this thread.

I guess I define a 'good' wine as something that retails for $15-$20 in Canada at the wine store... a GREAT wine is the next step... and I agree you'll not see much difference in using one of those to a good wine in cooking... BUT using a CRAP wine will result in crap flavors... they have to go somewhere :thumbsup

Tom_PM 04-30-2012 01:09 PM

Yeah, Ferm-Tech is the Canadian company I couldn't think of. They made my thief, bottling gear, and airlocks if I remember right.

I havent had a beer since I made my last batch a few months ago. I only do it when there's enough income to justify the expense. It's not a lot of money mind you, but it's a un necessary expense compared to keeping the lights on and so forth. Good thing I'm not an alcoholic :). Truly a hobby thing for me. I'd grow hops if I had the space.

homebrewtalk is a good forum to read thousands of others' past experiences. It's non adult so no need to call for my banning.

Zoxxa 04-30-2012 01:25 PM

UPS dropped off my equipment, just waiting on the wine kit now. :)

RebelR 04-30-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18917170)
I'm not saying cook with a $1900 wine.

I am saying cooking with a sugar wine in any way where you can taste the wine in the food or the sauce is bad advise.

A $120 wine kits produce about 30 bottles of wine at $4-$5 each - equivalent to a $15-$20 bottle of wine from the wine store. I'm saying that's the kind of wine one should be cooking with - NOT the crap wine some people have talked about in this thread.

I guess I define a 'good' wine as something that retails for $15-$20 in Canada at the wine store... a GREAT wine is the next step... and I agree you'll not see much difference in using one of those to a good wine in cooking... BUT using a CRAP wine will result in crap flavors... they have to go somewhere :thumbsup

I hear ya! The Petrus was just for illustrative purposes. I guess just don't see the point in the the effort when there are many quaff-able Chilean, and Argentinian wines in the $7-9 range. Beer I see as being more suitable to home brew since by adding different hops etc, allows you to control the flavors, and you aren't so reliant on generic grape juice.

My parents make their own wine from time to time.. I just bring my own when going over there :winkwink:

Nembrionic 04-30-2012 01:32 PM

I brew beer.

SleazyDream 04-30-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18917250)
I hear ya! The Petrus was just for illustrative purposes. I guess just don't see the point in the the effort when there are many quaff-able Chilean, and Argentinian wines in the $7-9 range. Beer I see as being more suitable to home brew since by adding different hops etc, allows you to control the flavors, and you aren't so reliant on generic grape juice.

My parents make their own wine from time to time.. I just bring my own when going over there :winkwink:

the problem is most likey they buy the cheap kits ;P

buy them a GOOD kit just once, they won't be able go back and you'll both be happy!

JasonB 04-30-2012 05:32 PM

I started brewing beer 20 years ago, but just recently got really into it again over the past year. I just bought this Brew Magic system.

DAMNMAN 04-30-2012 06:50 PM

I just started brewing, watch the videos in the links below. (FREE)

QUICK VIDEO TUTORIALS 1-9
http://www.homebrewersassociation.or...1-introduction

FREE BOOKS
http://www.homebrewersassociation.or...free-downloads

http://www.micromatic.com/draft-keg-...ent-cid-2.html

http://hopunion.com/1023_BrewingCalculators.cfm?p7=open

http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/Equipment

LEGAL
http://www.homebrewersassociation.or.../united-states

Lots of free information online, do your research and you'll be fine.

:2 cents:

SleazyDream 05-01-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonB (Post 18917687)
I started brewing beer 20 years ago, but just recently got really into it again over the past year. I just bought this Brew Magic system.

wow - that's a beer machine for the TRUE enthusiast!!!!!

Tom_PM 05-01-2012 09:11 AM

That Brew Magic system is serious home brewing. May as well set up a craft brew pub around it. :)

CaptainHowdy 05-01-2012 09:35 AM

Lots of whine makes on this board ...

Zoxxa 05-01-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonB (Post 18917687)
I started brewing beer 20 years ago, but just recently got really into it again over the past year. I just bought this Brew Magic system.

:jerkoff:jerkoff:jerkoff

Zoxxa 05-01-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 18917805)



Nice, thanks for the links...

Zoxxa 05-01-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18918848)
Lots of whine makes on this board ...


Yes, I am surprised the thread got this large.

CaptainHowdy 05-01-2012 09:41 AM

Lots of whine makes on this board ...

Zoxxa 05-01-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 18918870)
Lots of whine makes on this board ...

I got it the first time.
Would like to keep the thread troll free if possible, so I answered to reflect that.

DAMNMAN 05-01-2012 11:09 AM

You are welcome.
The best beer I had in my entire life was last week. It was a homebrew copy of Maharaja over hopped IPA. It was served to me fresh out of the keg as soon as it was carbonated enough. Nothing like it.

Fucking AWESOME.

Eyeball 05-01-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoxxa (Post 18915303)
From what my buddy tells me who does it all the time, you can use the same equipment for beer..

Buy two kits, don't ferment wine in a bin that you have brewed a batch of beer in.

RebelR 05-01-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonB (Post 18917687)
I started brewing beer 20 years ago, but just recently got really into it again over the past year. I just bought this Brew Magic system.

I guess that makes you the most popular house in your neighborhood.... "hey Hun, just going over to Jason's to borrow a few tools.. be back in a few hours"

That's a serious setup. Just curious at what point you cease to be a home brewer.. and start becoming a micro brew? Only when you sell?

DirtyGirl305 05-01-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 18915399)
I used to do it a lot in the mid 90s...

Elderflower wine was my fav - Enjoy your new hobby :thumbsup

I just had elderflower and honey wine last night. I had never heard of it before then and now you posted about it. It was a bit too sweet for me. I dont know if this counts but ive made moonshine with raisins in it. Didnt need a kit for that :winkwink:

modF 05-01-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 18917030)
shipping rates might be why so many wine making stores exist in canada. they ship in bulk, and buy in bulk, shipping adds huge cost to a small purchase...from the rates I see posted here, the specialty wine making stores are cheaper for the same product and they have the good stuff

Sorry, I meant they were more for my beer kits, which I believe are a slightly higher quality that say the Muntons or Brewer's Best kits (which really are not "bad"). We actually have a LHBS here which is obnoxiously priced over catalogs and internet sites even with shipping, but I think it is because he has way more overhead than he needs, and seems to try to only focus on his all-grain crowd. I'm intrigued now, perhaps I'll give a wine kit a shot, I'm sure it won't goto waste either way.

shake 05-01-2012 01:33 PM

I don't drink, but I have friends who brew their own beer and they seem to have a lot of fun with it.

Tom_PM 05-01-2012 01:47 PM

My local brew shop is also tragically high priced compared to me ordering from austin or midwest. That shouldn't be, but it is.
I read about a guy who malts his own barley from feed store barley. Now that's a DIY brewer on the cheap.

Nembrionic 05-01-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18919363)
My local brew shop is also tragically high priced compared to me ordering from austin or midwest. That shouldn't be, but it is.
I read about a guy who malts his own barley from feed store barley. Now that's a DIY brewer on the cheap.


On the cheap, yes. But malting is unique skill. You really need to know what you're doing if you want to keep it consistent.

JasonB 05-01-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RebelR (Post 18919230)
I guess that makes you the most popular house in your neighborhood.... "hey Hun, just going over to Jason's to borrow a few tools.. be back in a few hours"

That's a serious setup. Just curious at what point you cease to be a home brewer.. and start becoming a micro brew? Only when you sell?

Yeah, definitely. I supply the neighborhood with free beer. It goes surprisingly fast.
It's a big enough setup to brew enough for a small brewpub if you really wanted. The Dogfish Head guy started with the same system. But that's not my intention. I just figured if I'm gonna get into brewing, I'm gonna do it right.

candyflip 05-01-2012 07:40 PM

My neighbor makes his own beer and a lot of it. His backyard is draped with hops plants all summer long.

Zoxxa 05-02-2012 09:41 PM

Received all my equipment & I currently have 23L of filtered water, grape concentrate, & yeast sitting in the primary fermenter now for over 24 hours. Its a fucking beautiful thing. :)

dgraves 05-02-2012 09:59 PM

it's hard to get much better than homemade wine. when i was making it i got bugged all the time by friends who wanted it.

CDSmith 05-03-2012 10:46 AM

I once made a batch of rhubarb wine that blew a lot of people's socks off. It came out incredibly good, potent but smooth-tasting.

People still to this day rave about the crabapple wine I made back in the early 90's.

The chokecherry batches were insanely good too.

Damn, this thread has me becoming motivated to fire up more batches.

IdealImageMgmt 05-03-2012 10:50 AM

I've tried brewing my own beer once, it's all about having the right equipment and timing has to be right.


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