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19teenporn 04-30-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18916275)


True, but do any use traffic trading scripts?

Don't know. Don't care.

baryl 04-30-2012 01:42 AM

Porn popunders are way less intrusive than Youtube (Google's) own ads or the ridiculous flash ads all over most mainstream sites.

I honestly don't think Google gives a shit about one popunder. I've even lost ranking in the past for removing popunders although that may have been a coincidence.

Markul 04-30-2012 01:54 AM

I only worry about actual income and not so much traffic figures, but here's some percentages (doesn't mean much w.o. actual numbers attached to them, but basically some went up and some went down lol):

Day:
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Week:
http://zmypic.com/img/week.png

Month:
http://zmypic.com/img/month.png

Year:
http://zmypic.com/img/year.png

Ignore the second from the top, that's a mainstream website of a rather large utility client of mine and thus not my website

I guess I got hurt, but revenue is up.. not as much as it was from Feb -> March but still ok. I did spend too much on purchasing sites this month, but that's mainly cause I got fucked on two deals and the ROI won't happen for those trades. But fuck it.

Overall I'm happy with April, I'm not taking any money out as I'm putting all back into improving things. I guess that's the advantage of not having porn as a primary income.

roxxx 04-30-2012 02:30 AM

Panda 2 is shit, a step backward if u ask me. All the shitty sites (no content , no links no nothing) 99% white labels (duplicates) gone up and the other hard worked with tons of unique content and links vanished. That's my case and i guess many others.

$5 submissions 04-30-2012 02:50 AM

It's not over yet, folks. The algo is being adjusted and smoothed out. Give it a few weeks to stabilize to long term form.

arock10 04-30-2012 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mromro (Post 18915973)
So what they are saying is;

Get links to your site, but don't get links, especially from bad neighborhoods(whatever that is?) Like you have control over that.

If your site is about anal asian teens boys use that keyword but don't use that keyword because it looks like you are keyword stuffing.

Don't have any google search Queries to your site that's bad, people should not be searching for your keywords too much.

Don't try and improve your page rank, Page rank is bad!

So basically google wants you to make the surfer happy and give everything away to the surfer for free. That's why the tubes rank the best.

Porn gets fucked because it lacks most of the social network element that mainstream has. So there isn't really many natural surfer driven ways to get incomming links to your sites, people probably aren't going to click "like" for your extreme gay bdsm website

lucas131 04-30-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18916333)
It's not over yet, folks. The algo is being adjusted and smoothed out. Give it a few weeks to stabilize to long term form.

oh man ... google is changing every week or day, they just published some statement about it and everyone panic. it is not like they launched penguin yesterday and his work will be done in three days, then months steady possitions ... oh people, use your brain instead of massive panic on forums :)

AdultKing 04-30-2012 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 18916421)
use your brain instead of massive panic on forums :)

The mass panic is good entertainment :1orglaugh

jimmycooper 04-30-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 18916413)
Porn gets fucked because it lacks most of the social network element that mainstream has. So there isn't really many natural surfer driven ways to get incomming links to your sites, people probably aren't going to click "like" for your extreme gay bdsm website

I've only sent out 150 or so tweets this year but have had thousands of organic retweets so it can be done.

alextokyo 04-30-2012 06:41 AM

Time and time again we see that placing eggs in one basket is not smart. It's unfortunate that most of us have to learn it the hard way. Diversify and have something to fall back on, or else when your cash flow gets fucked for whatever reason, say goodbye to your business and hi-ho, hi-ho, it's back under the thumb you go. Hope you don't have creditors... :(

In the meantime, it's time to start working your fucking ass off night and day. By the time you're able to settle down again, you'll probably be in a much better position than you were before.

Denny 04-30-2012 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18916333)
It's not over yet, folks. The algo is being adjusted and smoothed out. Give it a few weeks to stabilize to long term form.

:2 cents:

iSpyCams 04-30-2012 06:49 AM

Also don't forget Google does not run Adsense on Adult sites so they have no way of getting paid unless you buy traffic from them.

Since there is no money in it for them, they have to at least focus on branding and making sure customers keep coming back to google for results. What do surfers want when they search for adult keywords?

They want to masturbate.

Where is the easiest place for them to do that?

Tubes.

Adapt or die.

shinmusashi44 04-30-2012 07:42 AM

For 3 days after the update, I had double traffic which was great. Then after that my traffic went down to 1/5 what it was. I'm so pissed.

travs 04-30-2012 07:48 AM

lesson learned: ADAPT OR DIE

just a punk 05-01-2012 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18915703)
Google ended me

You are not alone. Many good unique resources gone from the Google SEPR's, so not there are completely irrelevant results that contain a lot of "high quality sites". E.g.: http://www.google.com/search?q=profe...l+autoblogging

As you can see, there is http://www.professionalautoblogs.com/ on the 2nd position. So what's exactly Google considers as a high quality website.

All SEO forums are full of stories about white hand-written sites slapped by Penguin. On the other hand the spammy doorways got higher positions. Seems there are many guys who will make a bank on the recent Google engine "improvement".

jscott 05-01-2012 06:43 AM

I lost at least 40k/day google :(

This is total bullshit update from google. My sites are as clean as you can possibly be, updated frequently, many inbound links, and google still bent me over and fucked me hard

Lykos 05-01-2012 07:05 AM

Hope you get your rankings back !

meka2003 05-01-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18918530)
I lost at least 40k/day google :(

This is total bullshit update from google. My sites are as clean as you can possibly be, updated frequently, many inbound links, and google still bent me over and fucked me hard


Show your site

redwhiteandblue 05-01-2012 09:01 AM

I don't think this update will stick in its current form.

alextokyo 05-01-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by meka2003 (Post 18918579)
Show your site

Fucking peasant bottom-feeding cockroach.

Get your own ideas. :321GFY

tonyparra 05-01-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18918321)
You are not alone. Many good unique resources gone from the Google SEPR's, so not there are completely irrelevant results that contain a lot of "high quality sites". E.g.: http://www.google.com/search?q=profe...l+autoblogging

As you can see, there is http://www.professionalautoblogs.com/ on the 2nd position. So what's exactly Google considers as a high quality website.

All SEO forums are full of stories about white hand-written sites slapped by Penguin. On the other hand the spammy doorways got higher positions. Seems there are many guys who will make a bank on the recent Google engine "improvement".

Its number 1 for me and a expired domain :error

just a punk 05-01-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18919059)
Its number 1 for me and a expired domain :error

I believe Google will rollback its new "improvement" or it will lose the surfer's trust.

jscott 05-01-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by meka2003 (Post 18918579)
Show your site

Quote:

Originally Posted by alextokyo (Post 18918777)
Fucking peasant bottom-feeding cockroach.
Get your own ideas. :321GFY

I have to agree with Alextokyo

meka2003, get your own ideas man, i used to share this kind of information years ago, and many of people i know, "friends", and anyones, nobodies will copy the hell out of anyone with no shame.

videoscribe 05-01-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18915719)
50%-75% loss in traffic, 50% decrease in revenue in last week, usually when revenue dips traffic remains but the busiest sites have been removed for the serps completely. Not looking good.

That sucks for you, tonyparra. You are losing lots of traffic. Of course, high Google rankings are a privilege, not a right. You may lose those rankings if your site is just not good enough. Good luck trying to optimize your site better. Adapt and compete in the fast-paced environment. Build up many high quality links.

nico-t 05-01-2012 04:12 PM

i just keep on working. But a quality mainstream site on the last pages all of a sudden for premium keywords, with unique quality posts i personally write? Thank you google. It has to be temporary and i have faith in it that it will return, but this shit is so damn frustrating.

PornMD 05-01-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 18915950)
1. Make pages primarily for users, not for search engines. Don?t deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as ?cloaking.?

2. Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you?d feel comfortable explaining what you?ve done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, ?Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn?t exist??

3. Don?t participate in link schemes designed to increase your site?s ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or ?bad neighborhoods? on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

4. Don?t use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold? that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.

When has Google ever NOT said stuff like this?

glowlite 05-01-2012 10:01 PM

It's working good for me. But I have always built for users not SEs.

nico-t 05-02-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 18920367)
Seriously, did I just read this right? You actually think Google's bot/algorithm/index can come to your site/blog read/understand your content as rich and organic? Google's algorithm is a mathematical formula and doesn't have a clue how authentic or even relevant the total content is. Meaning, you might pour your heart out in a post/site and think it's awesome, but how does Google know that? If they did, would they really need you?

Guy's it's not that difficult. Google gambles if your keywords/phrase, supporting text, and site when they first list you. Then if surfers click and stay or not, your link climbs, drops, or stays in the SERPS, that's it.

So when you're dropping/dropped it means others did not link/like your post/site as they bounced off the SERP. The masses determined if your content was or was not relevant, not Google.

Yes, we all know this, but one method I use or a simple scenario. Xtranormal is a great place and dead simple to use place to make movies. It's actually fun to make a video from the content you were going to blog about anyway. I'll make a 3+ minuted video and then post it on a blog with the storyboard text posted underneath with the targeted keywords/phases.

I'll then backlink it (explained above) to get indexed as surfers will watch the video, read the supporting text and spend up to 4 minutes or more on the site as 1% hit the ads, 10% link off to inner pages or my other sites, and I guess rest fuck off back to the SERP? I then throw in 70% splog/spun posts supported by organic (big fucking hint) photos as the spun text phrases often get indexed.

Google loves this as most new posts phrases I am targeting are indexed. I do get drops when Google dances, but then re-link (explained above) and add another movie. Presto, I am back on top again.

I average one new move every 2 months and built a following as that blog ad revenue generates $25-$35 a day in MS. Total hours on the blog so far, 100 hours as the sites been up 2.5 years.

Blog setup, domain, software: $200
100 hours of work: $2000 (or my time)
Xtranormal charges: $100
Quarterly Backlink update $100 x4= $400 (or my time)
Total Cost: $2700
Yearly gross revenue generated: $10,950
Yearly net profit: $8,250 x 2.5 = $20,625

My point, you invest $2700 and 100 hours of your time and most importantly, well thought out truly organic content in a targeted MS niche, brings a return of $20,625.

Or you can type your fingers to the bone and lose all hope as your content slowly degrades because of it. Meaning, good organic content is a must, but a well thought out organic content delivery method, much much more important. :2 cents:

thanks for the info. I'm not only looking at unique text ofcourse. The site structure is made very well. Supported with the popular social media. The average time on site of all visitors is over 3 minutes in april. That's pretty good in my opinion. All these things combined i just find it weird that it is knocked down since last week, but like i said considering all the factors it has to bounce back.


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