Originally Posted by antdoin (Post 18944321)

With $1.200 per month i can live like a president here :)

Originally Posted by BJ (Post 18944322)

In your mind, in reality you are a broke loser.

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 18944314)

One example. Can stay / live in the hotel for around 600 USD (cambodia) and still have 600 left for spending (breakfast and internet covered by hotel) This is just one example i found spending 2 mins, i am sure u can alot better deals around..

http://no.hotels.com/hotel/details.h...-07-2012&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=1&roomno=1&validate=false&previous Dateful=false&reviewOrder=date_newest_first

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18944390)

$600 spread out across four weeks even in Cambodia isn't much. That's only $21 per day. You still have to eat, so assuming you eat three meals a day, unless you are fishing out of the river and cooking it yourself, or eating at the cheapest locals street stalls on the side of the road, you'll blow through that $21 in food alone, and probably then some. This does not even take into consideration any transportation getting around the city, any entertainment, any beverages, or in the case of Cambodia, women and/or weed. Oh, and that doesn't account for however much you'll have to spend for visa costs to remain in the country long term, and heaven help you if you get sick and need medical attention.

So what can you really do on $21 a day besides simply stay alive and keep a roof over your head? Not much.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18944390)

$600 spread out across four weeks even in Cambodia isn't much. That's only $21 per day. You still have to eat, so assuming you eat three meals a day, unless you are fishing out of the river and cooking it yourself, or eating at the cheapest locals street stalls on the side of the road, you'll blow through that $21 in food alone, and probably then some. This does not even take into consideration any transportation getting around the city, any entertainment, any beverages, or in the case of Cambodia, women and/or weed. Oh, and that doesn't account for however much you'll have to spend for visa costs to remain in the country long term, and heaven help you if you get sick and need medical attention.

So what can you really do on $21 a day besides simply stay alive and keep a roof over your head? Not much.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18944512)

When I think of retirement? I think living well, doing what I want when I want to. Not sitting around doing nothing and eating shit food because I only have $20 a day.

You are retired. You have no job. Probably no school. You have an endless amount of time on your hands to fill with no money to do the things you have always dreamed of doing. Sounds boring as hell.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18944512)

When I think of retirement? I think living well, doing what I want when I want to. Not sitting around doing nothing and eating shit food because I only have $20 a day.

You are retired. You have no job. Probably no school. You have an endless amount of time on your hands to fill with no money to do the things you have always dreamed of doing. Sounds boring as hell.

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 18944539)

true but this 600 was for hotel, can probablyt get a decent place to stay there for 200-300

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

$1200 USD per month is 7560RMB per month. You can live a very comfortable lifestyle here on that. I live here, married here, have a bricks and mortar business here as well as online.

Originally Posted by inabon (Post 18946042)

i live in one of the best places in Panama love it don't want it spoiled by you guys LOL

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

$1200 USD per month is 7560RMB per month. You can live a very comfortable lifestyle here on that. I live here, married here, have a bricks and mortar business here as well as online.

The average monthly income, with two income earners is around 3000-4000 pm. They also have kids and other shit to deal with, extra expenses related to that, plus rent. So if you're single on $1200usd pm you're laughing. The more you make the better life style you enjoy of course applies.

Apartment rental:

2 bedroom, 1 tv room, 1 dining room, 1 kitchen, 1 bathroom/toilet, 1 balcony, gated community, ocean water front views, 2500RMB per month. Utilities (gas/water/power + parking fee) additional 300RMB pm. Total: 2800RMB pm.

Getting around:

Taxi: Flag fair 8RMB, 20mins drive around: 20-25RMB.
Bus: 1RMB. Sit on that fucker all day like a hobo, still only 1RMB.
Motorbike taxi: 6RMB.

Do what I did, buy an electric power bike/scooter thingo. Buy second hand, one time price, 2000RMB or less. Full battery recharge 1RMB. Takes 3 days to use up all the juice, re-charge and drive around like a boss again. Top speed 45 km/ph. Hard to do that in heavy traffic, so just use the footpaths like the locals do, fuck the police!

Food:

You can eat the most delicious, freshest food daily, cooked by mom/dad small shop front operations for cheap. 2 people can walk away bloated like a fat kid at MC Donalds for 30RMB. Or you got to a local fresh produce market and buy the same thing, but cook it yourself at home for 10-15RMb, so half price.

Pro tip: Get a wife, give her money, she will go out and do this for you. She also comes in handy with visas, see the next section.

You can also eat out at fancy ass western restaurants, top Chinese fine dinning, silver service and the price range is not much higher. Per person, 50-100RMB.

Visas:

Arrive on an L tourist visa. Get it extended max two more months. During that time get married (most simple as fuck, non effort process I've ever done in my life. Thailand for example is a cunt when dealing with visas), get a 1-2yr marriage visa, pay 800RMB per year/2. Sorted, easy as fuck. Carry on with your life.

Medical/Hospital:

No medicare, no safety net. User pays system. Private hospitals are shit, avoid like a 20RMB whore.

Stick to the government hospitals. If you are white, you are elevated to god tier. You will pay for it, but you will get all the western trained doctors, and not some janitor that is wearing a white lab coat. (Think I'm joking, I've seen it myself).

I got a nasty ass, puss infected, white goop dripping, throat infection. Went to public hospital, got diagnosed within 20mins, 5mins to pay for meds, all done under 30mins. It took me longer to park the bike, chain it up so some fuck don't knock it off and pay the parking management auntie 1RMB.

Internet: Slow compared to most first world countries, but I get 4mbps down and fuck all up, but it's good enough for me. Bring a VPN you will need one if you want to do facebook, youtube, white people things, oh and work on your adult shit.

For the people here that just do mainstream shit, (like me these days), you hardly need a vpn at all.)

Other great things about the place. 8 million locals, 300 expats, a non existent police system (you see them but they do fuck all) no road rules, no breath testing (if you drink and drive you are a fucking cunt though, think of others and their families before you get behind the wheel), no in your bedroom/life gov policies, no tax on world wide internet income (at this point in time), they love Australians, English & Americans are ok. If you are Russian, you are below a black person and they dislike those and if you are Japanese, you will be lynched in the streets.

600ml beers are 4RMB each, bbq mystery meat on most street corners after 10.30pm at night and the weather is tropical warm 11months of the year. No pollution/smog in the air and all round great living conditions. You can fuck whores till your dick falls off for 200RMB a pop or get wanked off during a relaxing massage for 100RMB. Or you can get married and fuck for free, but end up spending all your money on Taobao (Chinese Ebay) lolol. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18943374)

Just about every story you will read online about living somewhere cheap is bullshit. What it means is you can live there LIKE A LOCAL for that amount. If you want to have a real life, a nice place, in a good area, it takes money. Yes, it's usually cheaper than where you're from, but living abroad for pennies on the dollar is usually a pipe dream.

Another thing these stupid articles never mention is how much you may pay for a Visa, real medical costs, the cost of paying double in some places because you're foreign, and so on. It's ALWAYS much more expensive than any of these articles ever lead on. Makes me wonder if the idiots who write them actually live abroad or not, or are they just some dirty back packer living in a hostel making extra money writing this crap.

But if you want to live like a local, yes, you can get by on whatever dreams they are selling in those stories.

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 18946579)

For $1200 per month Thailand is a good option though... probably safer too if you act normal

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18946468)

hey man..im loving china more these days...we do some mainstream stuff there.
china is awesome

Originally Posted by shimmy2 (Post 18946643)

dont forget puta money in the budget

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 18943664)

you can rent a place just down from me for $500.00 per month..
that leaves 700.00 for food and bug spray...
http://www.shemp.com/house.jpg

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18946686)

do you mean hainan? if so ive been to haikou and sanya there. It was ok but i wouldn't wanna live there. Haikou has a nice vibe but the beaches were all under construction (about a year ago). Sanya has nice beaches but the city is very small. After being in sanya for a week or so it started to feel a bit claustrophobic.

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18947102)

Yup. Haikou is shit though. If the international airport and bullet train didn't go there, I'd never have to pass through. Fuck I hate that city. And yeah, if you don't like living amongst 8 million people in Sanya, then it's definitely not for you lollol.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 18947272)

8 million in sanya? Didnt look that way at all judging by the kinda small city center. But maybe 8 mill in the whole area i guess, but even that i find hard to believe. Doesnt matter though, as long as you enjoy living there :thumbsup

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18946843)

Play your cards right and one can retire in the U.S. on $1200 per month. I can do it but I normally spend an average of around $1500-$2000 per month. I own everything I have outright and have zero debt.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18947401)

The idea of retiring somewhere on X,XXX / Mo has always been a flawed idea as it assumes that nothing will change economically in the area over a long period of time (i.e. rent goes up dramatically, food costs go up dramatically, medicine goes up etc)... and if you're in a position where you've retired with nothing but 1,200.00 a month and ANTYHING changes that's not to your benefit (exchange rates or prices or bank with your money going tits up etc), then you're totally fucked.