Originally Posted by garce (Post 18943909)

In Panama...

You can live in Canada for $1,200 per month.

Get off the grid, build a small house a short drive from a small town (even most of the smallest towns have Canadian Tires, No Frills, Rona's, and WalMarts...), grow most of your own food... After an initial investment, you can live dirt cheap if you don't give a crap about useless technological luxuries (which are insanely overpriced in this country, anyway...)

I own my own house, but I could easily live by myself for $1,200 a month in Scarborough if it wasn't for my kids being in college and insane cell phone and cable TV bills. Shit, when I move I'll rent the house out for $1,200 a month and live for free. Its a small house...

My aunt lives just outside Campbellford, ON, owns our old family home, and her bills do not come anywhere near $1,200 a month (not including gas and insurance).

Originally Posted by madko (Post 18943716)

Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Greece (basically all eastern Europe)

Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 18943756)

This article might've been true, 5 years before everyone started doing it.

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

Getting around:

Do what I did, buy an electric power bike/scooter thingo. Buy second hand, one time price, 2000RMB or less. Full battery recharge 1RMB. Takes 3 days to use up all the juice, re-charge and drive around like a boss again. Top speed 45 km/ph. Hard to do that in heavy traffic, so just use the footpaths like the locals do, fuck the police!

Medical/Hospital:

No medicare, no safety net. User pays system. Private hospitals are shit, avoid like a 20RMB whore.

Stick to the government hospitals. If you are white, you are elevated to god tier. You will pay for it, but you will get all the western trained doctors, and not some janitor that is wearing a white lab coat. (Think I'm joking, I've seen it myself).

Other great things about the place. 8 million locals, 300 expats, a non existent police system (you see them but they do fuck all) no road rules, no breath testing (if you drink and drive you are a fucking cunt though, think of others and their families before you get behind the wheel), no in your bedroom/life gov policies, no tax on world wide internet income (at this point in time), they love Australians, English & Americans are ok. If you are Russian, you are below a black person and they dislike those and if you are Japanese, you will be lynched in the streets.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 18944261)

countries in Europe to live OK for 1200 usd per month:

Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, whole former Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Turkey,Estonia, Latvia, Lotva, Belarus.

Still doable but without luxuries: Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France, UK, Holland, Austria.

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 18944261)

countries in Europe to live OK for 1200 usd per month:

Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, whole former Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Turkey,Estonia, Latvia, Lotva, Belarus.

Still doable but without luxuries: Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France, UK, Holland, Austria.

Originally Posted by BJ (Post 18944299)

you are mostly retards, 1200 usd a month you are a broke loser, no matter where you are in the world. A scurge on society. Nobody or country wants you.

Originally Posted by BJ (Post 18944299)

you are mostly retards, 1200 usd a month you are a broke loser, no matter where you are in the world. A scurge on society. Nobody or country wants you.

Originally Posted by antdoin (Post 18944321)

With $1.200 per month i can live like a president here :)

Originally Posted by BJ (Post 18944322)

In your mind, in reality you are a broke loser.

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 18944314)

One example. Can stay / live in the hotel for around 600 USD (cambodia) and still have 600 left for spending (breakfast and internet covered by hotel) This is just one example i found spending 2 mins, i am sure u can alot better deals around..

http://no.hotels.com/hotel/details.h...-07-2012&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=1&roomno=1&validate=false&previous Dateful=false&reviewOrder=date_newest_first

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18944390)

$600 spread out across four weeks even in Cambodia isn't much. That's only $21 per day. You still have to eat, so assuming you eat three meals a day, unless you are fishing out of the river and cooking it yourself, or eating at the cheapest locals street stalls on the side of the road, you'll blow through that $21 in food alone, and probably then some. This does not even take into consideration any transportation getting around the city, any entertainment, any beverages, or in the case of Cambodia, women and/or weed. Oh, and that doesn't account for however much you'll have to spend for visa costs to remain in the country long term, and heaven help you if you get sick and need medical attention.

So what can you really do on $21 a day besides simply stay alive and keep a roof over your head? Not much.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18944390)

$600 spread out across four weeks even in Cambodia isn't much. That's only $21 per day. You still have to eat, so assuming you eat three meals a day, unless you are fishing out of the river and cooking it yourself, or eating at the cheapest locals street stalls on the side of the road, you'll blow through that $21 in food alone, and probably then some. This does not even take into consideration any transportation getting around the city, any entertainment, any beverages, or in the case of Cambodia, women and/or weed. Oh, and that doesn't account for however much you'll have to spend for visa costs to remain in the country long term, and heaven help you if you get sick and need medical attention.

So what can you really do on $21 a day besides simply stay alive and keep a roof over your head? Not much.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18944512)

When I think of retirement? I think living well, doing what I want when I want to. Not sitting around doing nothing and eating shit food because I only have $20 a day.

You are retired. You have no job. Probably no school. You have an endless amount of time on your hands to fill with no money to do the things you have always dreamed of doing. Sounds boring as hell.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18944512)

When I think of retirement? I think living well, doing what I want when I want to. Not sitting around doing nothing and eating shit food because I only have $20 a day.

You are retired. You have no job. Probably no school. You have an endless amount of time on your hands to fill with no money to do the things you have always dreamed of doing. Sounds boring as hell.

Originally Posted by Bjorn (Post 18944539)

true but this 600 was for hotel, can probablyt get a decent place to stay there for 200-300

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

$1200 USD per month is 7560RMB per month. You can live a very comfortable lifestyle here on that. I live here, married here, have a bricks and mortar business here as well as online.

Originally Posted by inabon (Post 18946042)

i live in one of the best places in Panama love it don't want it spoiled by you guys LOL

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

$1200 USD per month is 7560RMB per month. You can live a very comfortable lifestyle here on that. I live here, married here, have a bricks and mortar business here as well as online.

The average monthly income, with two income earners is around 3000-4000 pm. They also have kids and other shit to deal with, extra expenses related to that, plus rent. So if you're single on $1200usd pm you're laughing. The more you make the better life style you enjoy of course applies.

Apartment rental:

2 bedroom, 1 tv room, 1 dining room, 1 kitchen, 1 bathroom/toilet, 1 balcony, gated community, ocean water front views, 2500RMB per month. Utilities (gas/water/power + parking fee) additional 300RMB pm. Total: 2800RMB pm.

Getting around:

Taxi: Flag fair 8RMB, 20mins drive around: 20-25RMB.
Bus: 1RMB. Sit on that fucker all day like a hobo, still only 1RMB.
Motorbike taxi: 6RMB.

Do what I did, buy an electric power bike/scooter thingo. Buy second hand, one time price, 2000RMB or less. Full battery recharge 1RMB. Takes 3 days to use up all the juice, re-charge and drive around like a boss again. Top speed 45 km/ph. Hard to do that in heavy traffic, so just use the footpaths like the locals do, fuck the police!

Food:

You can eat the most delicious, freshest food daily, cooked by mom/dad small shop front operations for cheap. 2 people can walk away bloated like a fat kid at MC Donalds for 30RMB. Or you got to a local fresh produce market and buy the same thing, but cook it yourself at home for 10-15RMb, so half price.

Pro tip: Get a wife, give her money, she will go out and do this for you. She also comes in handy with visas, see the next section.

You can also eat out at fancy ass western restaurants, top Chinese fine dinning, silver service and the price range is not much higher. Per person, 50-100RMB.

Visas:

Arrive on an L tourist visa. Get it extended max two more months. During that time get married (most simple as fuck, non effort process I've ever done in my life. Thailand for example is a cunt when dealing with visas), get a 1-2yr marriage visa, pay 800RMB per year/2. Sorted, easy as fuck. Carry on with your life.

Medical/Hospital:

No medicare, no safety net. User pays system. Private hospitals are shit, avoid like a 20RMB whore.

Stick to the government hospitals. If you are white, you are elevated to god tier. You will pay for it, but you will get all the western trained doctors, and not some janitor that is wearing a white lab coat. (Think I'm joking, I've seen it myself).

I got a nasty ass, puss infected, white goop dripping, throat infection. Went to public hospital, got diagnosed within 20mins, 5mins to pay for meds, all done under 30mins. It took me longer to park the bike, chain it up so some fuck don't knock it off and pay the parking management auntie 1RMB.

Internet: Slow compared to most first world countries, but I get 4mbps down and fuck all up, but it's good enough for me. Bring a VPN you will need one if you want to do facebook, youtube, white people things, oh and work on your adult shit.

For the people here that just do mainstream shit, (like me these days), you hardly need a vpn at all.)

Other great things about the place. 8 million locals, 300 expats, a non existent police system (you see them but they do fuck all) no road rules, no breath testing (if you drink and drive you are a fucking cunt though, think of others and their families before you get behind the wheel), no in your bedroom/life gov policies, no tax on world wide internet income (at this point in time), they love Australians, English & Americans are ok. If you are Russian, you are below a black person and they dislike those and if you are Japanese, you will be lynched in the streets.

600ml beers are 4RMB each, bbq mystery meat on most street corners after 10.30pm at night and the weather is tropical warm 11months of the year. No pollution/smog in the air and all round great living conditions. You can fuck whores till your dick falls off for 200RMB a pop or get wanked off during a relaxing massage for 100RMB. Or you can get married and fuck for free, but end up spending all your money on Taobao (Chinese Ebay) lolol. :thumbsup

Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 18943845)

China.

Forget the shitty mainland parts, move to the island of the south that belongs to China, but is an SEZ. Find it yourself I'm not telling you, fucked if I want hundreds of expats flooding the place heh.

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18943374)

Just about every story you will read online about living somewhere cheap is bullshit. What it means is you can live there LIKE A LOCAL for that amount. If you want to have a real life, a nice place, in a good area, it takes money. Yes, it's usually cheaper than where you're from, but living abroad for pennies on the dollar is usually a pipe dream.

Another thing these stupid articles never mention is how much you may pay for a Visa, real medical costs, the cost of paying double in some places because you're foreign, and so on. It's ALWAYS much more expensive than any of these articles ever lead on. Makes me wonder if the idiots who write them actually live abroad or not, or are they just some dirty back packer living in a hostel making extra money writing this crap.

But if you want to live like a local, yes, you can get by on whatever dreams they are selling in those stories.