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Just Alex 05-15-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18948736)
I know one thing from this thread...

Detective Olivia Benson is having none of it!

Hands off Olivia perv

Just Alex 05-15-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18948757)
Here is a transcript of the 911 call.

This is what it says:

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don?t turn and make a left.

He?s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He?s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he?s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ?F-ing coons? at 2:22]

NOTE:
[Listen here at 1:17 for CNN's edited frame]
911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don?t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.



So Zimmerman tells the dispatcher twice that Trayvon ran. Sounds kine of like fleeing to me.

In the end it is worthless to argue this. I feel, based only on what I know now, that Zimmerman pursued this guy, confronted him and ended up shooting him.

You think he is a hero.

I doubt we will change each other's minds so we might as well just call it good wait until the case plays out. Once all the evidence is public maybe I will change my mind.

Big time hero! Followed specious character who fit the profile of neighborhood burglar despite the fact he was out-sized.
I would've moved out from that area long time ago but this guy thought he could make difference and make it better for everyone else. Hats off to true American hero!

Young 05-15-2012 09:17 PM

Get a life you fucking loser. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 05-15-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18948764)
So... he's dead... but he won?

Good for him.


... i guess. :(

Nobody REALLY wins in these situations...

brassmonkey 05-15-2012 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young (Post 18948786)
Get a life you fucking loser. :2 cents:

:2 cents: :2 cents:

venus 05-15-2012 10:17 PM

stop listening to the news and listen to the facts, they never told him not to follow, and it was not a cop, it was a 911 dispatcher. they said "we do not need you to do that"
what was actually said matters. The 911 dispatcher cannot tell him what to do. He was part of neighborhood watch and was following the guy and telling 911 what was going on. He was doing his job as neighborhood watch. if the guy broke into a house, he would have been able to witness it and report it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 18948580)
He should not have been following the kid around after the cop told him not to... .


Rochard 05-15-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18948757)
Here is a transcript of the 911 call.

This is what it says:

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don?t turn and make a left.

He?s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He?s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he?s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

[It sounds like Zimmerman says under his breath, ?F-ing coons? at 2:22]

NOTE:
[Listen here at 1:17 for CNN's edited frame]
911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don?t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.



So Zimmerman tells the dispatcher twice that Trayvon ran. Sounds kine of like fleeing to me.

In the end it is worthless to argue this. I feel, based only on what I know now, that Zimmerman pursued this guy, confronted him and ended up shooting him.

You think he is a hero.

I doubt we will change each other's minds so we might as well just call it good wait until the case plays out. Once all the evidence is public maybe I will change my mind.

If the kid was running from Zimmerman, he's got no defense. Period.

baddog 05-15-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18948563)
With what is known so far, which do you think would have a better outcome for Zimmerman:

A jury of his peers or letting a judge decide?

My policy is if I am innocent, I go with a judge. If I was guilty I would go ahead and let a jury decide.

I don't know why so many still think that Zimmerman was told to back off; he wasn't. People have been fired for rigging the news; did you not read/hear that?

Zimmerman seems to have been railroaded by the media.

tony286 05-16-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by venus (Post 18948865)
stop listening to the news and listen to the facts, they never told him not to follow, and it was not a cop, it was a 911 dispatcher. they said "we do not need you to do that"
what was actually said matters. The 911 dispatcher cannot tell him what to do. He was part of neighborhood watch and was following the guy and telling 911 what was going on. He was doing his job as neighborhood watch. if the guy broke into a house, he would have been able to witness it and report it.

Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18949545)
Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.

my neighbor was captain many years before he died. he never got out of hand with guns.

Tom_PM 05-16-2012 09:00 AM

The outcry in this incident was that there was deemed to be no need to investigate further, when there really really seemed to be a need to investigate further.

Now that that is happening, I feel better. I hope there are NO more leaks to media, and that it comes to trial quickly. They already need to move the trial to Pluto to avoid a tainted jury pool.

theking 05-16-2012 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18949545)
Ive actually been in neighborhood watches. You are told to do nothing and call the police. If the police say it once they say 100 x times.

I to have served in a neighborhood watch and we were instructed not to confront but to follow any strange person in the neighborhood until they left the neighborhood and not to confront but to call 911 if we witnessed an actual crime being committed or considered the person's actions to be questionable/suspicious. I carried a pistol but not all members of the neighborhood watch carried but most...if not all...had a shotgun in the car when they patrolled.

For Zimmerman to have followed Trayvon would have been his duty as a member of the neighborhood watch. To confront Trayvon would probably not be considered as being his duty as a member of the neighbor hood watch...but according to Zimmerman's father he did not intentionally confront Trayvon.

Zimmerman's father has stated that his son told him that he had lost track of Trayvon and was returning to his vehicle when he encountered Trayvon again and at that point words were exchanged and Trayvon punched him...breaking his nose and knocking him down...and then Trayvon started banging his head against the ground...which caused two seperate lacerations to his head and it was during this scuffle that Zimmerman shot Trayvon.

It has been reported that witnesses saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman and reported that Zimmerman was yelling for help.

tony286 05-16-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18949670)
I to have served in a neighborhood watch and we were instructed not to confront but to follow any strange person in the neighborhood until they left the neighborhood and not to confront but to call 911 if we witnessed an actual crime being committed or considered the person's actions to be questionable/suspicious.

For Zimmerman to have followed Treyvon would have been his duty as a member of the neighborhood watch. To confront Treyvon would probably not be considered as being his duty as a member of the neighbor hood watch...but according to Zimmerman's father he did not intentionally confront Treyvon.

Zimmerman's father has stated that his son told him that he had lost track of Treyvon and was returning to his vehicle when he encountered Treyvon again and at that point words were exchanged and Treyvon punched him...breaking his nose and knocking him down...and then Treyvon started banging his head against the ground...which caused two seperate lacerations to his head and it was during this scuffle that Zimmerman shot Treyvon.

It has been reported that witnesses saw Treyvon on top of Zimmerman and reported that Zimmerman was yelling for help.

well in atlanta we were told just call the police. To follow someone its asking for someone to be put in possible harms way. And if the police told you to do that ,they could be held liable. if god forbid you were hurt or killed.

Tom_PM 05-16-2012 10:05 AM

It's always preferrable to lose some merchandise than to lose a life. Besides which, the guy was going to the house he was staying in on the designated sidewalk. Hardly up to no good until it turned ugly. A macro version of the Heisenberg principle of observation?

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18949605)
The outcry in this incident was that there was deemed to be no need to investigate further, when there really really seemed to be a need to investigate further.

Now that that is happening, I feel better. I hope there are NO more leaks to media, and that it comes to trial quickly. They already need to move the trial to Pluto to avoid a tainted jury pool.

yeah well people like reality shows. im surprised the first 48 didnt run it

CyberHustler 05-16-2012 10:10 AM

The Zimmiester should not be allowed to legally carry a god damn thing no more...

Just Alex 05-16-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18949678)
well in atlanta we were told just call the police. To follow someone its asking for someone to be put in possible harms way. And if the police told you to do that ,they could be held liable. if god forbid you were hurt or killed.

Oh please. You are 400lbs piece of lard. You wouldn't be able to walk a fucking block without having a heart attack.

Captain Kawaii 05-16-2012 11:29 AM

NEWSFLASH - If you are being followed and all you have is a box of skittles on you. Call 911 and say you are being followed and scared as hell. No matter your race.

People have ghetto outcomes cause they act ghetto. Learn to act like a normal human being. Trayvon apparently chose to go ghetto and it cost him his life.

Ask yourself quick - First Impulse, what would you do.

Mine is to try and get away, to flee, 2nd option call 911. Third, fight like a caged animal.
Somehow many youth skip to 3. Mistake.

Just Alex 05-16-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 18949894)
NEWSFLASH - If you are being followed and all you have is a box of skittles on you. Call 911 and say you are being followed and scared as hell. No matter your race.

People have ghetto outcomes cause they act ghetto. Learn to act like a normal human being. Trayvon apparently chose to go ghetto and it cost him his life.

Ask yourself quick - First Impulse, what would you do.

Mine is to try and get away, to flee, 2nd option call 911. Third, fight like a caged animal.
Somehow many youth skip to 3. Mistake.

Like caged animal? He wasn't caged at all. Zimmerman was 5 inches shorter and sure didn't look like creepy stalker. He was a watch captain for fucks sake. Probably asked few simple questions about who the kid was and if he lived there and got jumped because of that. "No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18949909)
Like caged animal? He wasn't caged at all. Zimmerman was 5 inches shorter and sure didn't look like creepy stalker. He was a watch captain for fucks sake. Probably asked few simple questions about who the kid was and if he lived there and got jumped because of that. "No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later

im just waiting for your racist bubble to pop :evil-laug wonder if you will change colors like the hulk. instead of green you will have a yellow line down your back :1orglaugh

Just Alex 05-16-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18949923)
im just waiting for your racist bubble to pop :evil-laug wonder if you will change colors like the hulk. instead of green you will have a yellow line down your back :1orglaugh

Huh? You high homie?

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18949953)
Huh? You high homie?

nope this is day to day for you.

Just Alex 05-16-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 18949957)
nope this is day to day for you.

You know nothing about my days homie :1orglaugh
Its all bright and sunny over at White Lane.

Tom_PM 05-16-2012 01:16 PM

In my local news yesterday was a dude sentanced for the shooting death of a toddler. He admitted he shot the gun, but he was trying to kill the rival gang member in the minivan. So he apologized for killing the toddler, saying he's no angel but he's not the monster people think he is..

Okee dokee. He got 40 years. Not sure why not life, guess because he has bad aim.

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18950058)
In my local news yesterday was a dude sentanced for the shooting death of a toddler. He admitted he shot the gun, but he was trying to kill the rival gang member in the minivan. So he apologized for killing the toddler, saying he's no angel but he's not the monster people think he is..

Okee dokee. He got 40 years. Not sure why not life, guess because he has bad aim.

thats crazy but it happens. maybe the guy shot at him some point in time earlier. there was a guy in new york gangster a guy walked up and shot him dead while he was holding his baby.

escorpio 05-16-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18949909)
"No limit nigga" had it coming sooner or later

With a name like "Trayvon" he was either going to end up in jail or dead in the streets. It's all his mammy's fault.

brassmonkey 05-16-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 18950759)
With a name like "Trayvon" he was either going to end up in jail or dead in the streets. It's all his mammy's fault.

eres un gran hombre

Paul Markham 05-17-2012 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18948539)
Just because he has the injuries doesn't automatically make him innocent. If he attacked that kid and the kid tried to defend himself only to get shot, Zimmerman is still guilty.

I still think, regardless of the injuries, he will be found guilty. He chose to pursue the kid and press the issue. Had he got back in his car and waited for the police none of this would have happened. He chose to make a move and ended up killing an unarmed person. That's normally not good for you.

That's my take on it. Does Zimmerman look like a guy that would be scared of his life in a fight with a 17 year old?

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...g_full_600.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...-story-top.jpg

Zimmerman should of waited and let the police do their job.

Tom_PM 05-17-2012 01:01 PM

I think his lawyers are reading our posts. Stop leaking to the media! Try the case on its merits or get an asterick in the record books. Yes, the media outlets could simply refuse to run the story, but come on.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...152333240.html

baddog 05-17-2012 01:06 PM

The gunshot wound entrance was from a bullet fired from "intermediate range," or two to four inches, "a soot ring abrasion and a two-inch by two-inch area of stippling" on his body.

Sounds like Martin must have been on top of Zimmerman.

PornoMonster 05-17-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18950832)
That's my take on it. Does Zimmerman look like a guy that would be scared of his life in a fight with a 17 year old?

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_...g_full_600.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...-story-top.jpg

Zimmerman should of waited and let the police do their job.

Hey Paul, Let me ask you that when I am on top of you. (hard to get up, seen it on UFC many times)
While I am Bashing the back of your head into the Concrete.
You let me know if you think your going to die!

Major (Tom) 05-18-2012 10:16 AM

bottom line how did that fat lard zimmerman catch no limit ni**a.
no limit n**a could have out ran him easilly. My theory is he gained enough ground & hid to ambush.
just my 2 cents
ds

CyberHustler 05-18-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 18953394)
bottom line how did that fat lard zimmerman catch no limit ni**a.
no limit n**a could have out ran him easilly. My theory is he gained enough ground & hid to ambush.
just my 2 cents
ds

Exactly. The guy that was running was a decoy steering Zimmerman, with the real Trayvon hiding behind a car until Zimmerman got close enough. They wanted to steal his gun, but the plan backfired (no pun intended). Nobody even cares about the other decoy guy, they just want to portray Zimmerman as a monster when all he was doing was harmlessly chasing niggas around with his gun in an area that has had a string of recent robberies. These niggas obviously wanted that gun, but the media has spun this story so much that nobody is paying attention to that.


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