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ninavain 05-17-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18952203)
There would be criminal trials for those that were involved...but it will never be proven because it is a ridiculous laughable premise.

the premise is not laughable, but society is now so spoonfed, you shun anyone that might show something to the contrary ...ok so, on 9/11 I'm supposed to believe that 4 planes crashed and evaporated into thin air ( that is a historic 1st btw) and that 3 massive skyscrapers pancaked at free fall speed from the "heat and fire"...also another historic 1st

and that a building, 3 blocks away, tower 7 fell for no damn reason at all ( around 5 pm est) ( they didn't even mention it in the commission report) and most people don't even REMEMBER a 3rd building fell.

but paper passports of the hijackers found on the streets below

damn folks...wake up time is upon us.. I was once gung ho for war after this..but the years and the hiding of footage and sidetracking made me look deeper and deeper...got to admit..it changed my life and how I view everything now

BFT3K 05-17-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18952206)
Absolutely nothing. As with the banks, they are all too big to fail. The U.S. government plotted this exact scenario before, it was discovered and reported, and what's been done - nothing.

Here's the article:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92...1#.T7WLVsWMFe4

Interesting.

theking 05-17-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18952206)
Absolutely nothing. As with the banks, they are all too big to fail. The U.S. government plotted this exact scenario before, it was discovered and reported, and what's been done - nothing.

Here's the article:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92...1#.T7WLVsWMFe4

It is called "brain storming" and is a common exercise in think tanks of various types...and is presented as an idea and not as an operational plan...end of story.

theking 05-17-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18952228)
the premise is not laughable, but society is now so spoonfed, you shun anyone that might show something to the contrary ...ok so, on 9/11 I'm supposed to believe that 4 planes crashed and evaporated into thin air ( that is a historic 1st btw) and that 3 massive skyscrapers pancaked at free fall speed from the "heat and fire"...also another historic 1st

and that a building, 3 blocks away, tower 7 fell for no damn reason at all ( around 5 pm est) ( they didn't even mention it in the commission report) and most people don't even REMEMBER a 3rd building fell.

but paper passports of the hijackers found on the streets below

damn folks...wake up time is upon us.. I was once gung ho for war after this..but the years and the hiding of footage and sidetracking made me look deeper and deeper...got to admit..it changed my life and how I view everything now

You are free to believe whatever you choose to believe however flawed your thinking may be...and it is flawed...as proven in your post.

Failed 05-17-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18952236)
It is called "brain storming" and is a common exercise in think tanks of various types...and is presented as an idea and not as an operational plan...end of story.

They were written plans that had the Joint Cheifs of Staff's approval and sent on to the defense secretary. This went well beyond brain storming ideas.

wehateporn 05-17-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 18952138)
Your use of the term "proving" is weak. His video and "proof" would be hard to swallow even if the three network feeds described were the only ones available. But they weren't. There were dozes if not over a hundred amateur and professional videos of the plane-smacks...

:D

I always viewed the "No Planes" theory as being Divide and Conquer. It would be a huge risk for them to have tried this with no planes, given that there are so many tourists roaming the streets of New York with their camcorders. I can't see any advantage of them not using real planes, unless they weren't confident of them hitting. Still, I didn't see with my own eyes, so I'll need to continue researching this one.

The video does make a direct 'divide and conquer' statement in the final minute

I can see why it would be worth preparing fake footage in advance, in case anything went wrong on the day. Fake footage might exist that was created before 9/11, but personally I still believe strongly that planes hit the buildings

theking 05-17-2012 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18952253)
They were written plans that had the Joint Cheifs of Staff's approval and sent on to the defense secretary. This went well beyond brain storming ideas.

Pigshit.

Failed 05-17-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18952275)
Pigshit.

Did you even bother reading the article? It's fact. Hell, it even had an operational code name - Operation Northwoods. Read the article.

theking 05-17-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18952280)
Did you even bother reading the article? It's fact. Hell, it even had an operational code name - Operation Northwoods. Read the article.

Yes I read the article...but I have been familiar with the information for years as provided by James Bamford. If you will reread the article...and pay attention to such words as "reportedly" and "as described by" etc. it may help you to understand when I call the information pigshit. It was never an operational plan and was basically no more than brainstorming. The military has tons of "plans" on the shelve...for virtually every imaginable event...that will never become operational plans but are there as "brain storming".

wehateporn 05-18-2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18952416)
Yes I read the article...but I have been familiar with the information for years as provided by James Bamford. If you will reread the article...and pay attention to such words as "reportedly" and "as described by" etc. it may help you to understand when I call the information pigshit. It was never an operational plan and was basically no more than brainstorming. The military has tons of "plans" on the shelve...for virtually every imaginable event...that will never become operational plans but are there as "brain storming".

"Brain storming" about an attack from outside is valuable, but "Brain Storming" about organizing your own False Flag attack; that's of no use unless there's the possibility of making it operational.

wehateporn 05-18-2012 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 18952228)
but the years and the hiding of footage and sidetracking made me look deeper and deeper...got to admit..it changed my life and how I view everything now

I know where you're coming from, once the trust is gone and one is aware that the government and media lie; everything has to be questioned and investigated from that point on.

The strangest thing for me was discovering how apathetic the average person is to finding out what's going on behind the curtains. Though I believe this is driven by fear, the fear of being knocked out of their safe and comfortable world paradigm.

arock10 05-18-2012 04:40 AM

Another quality business thread from the gfy crazies

Harmon 05-18-2012 04:58 AM

Funny how the same people that state that we should believe nothing that the media reports because it is manipulated by "higher powers" are the same people using an ABC News article and stating that the entire thing should now be considered facts.

Get your fucking stories straight :1orglaugh

wehateporn 05-18-2012 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18952807)
Funny how the same people that state that we should believe nothing that the media reports because it is manipulated by "higher powers" are the same people using an ABC News article and stating that the entire thing should now be considered facts.

Get your fucking stories straight :1orglaugh

Most pick up on Operation Northwoods from the alternative media, though when you quickly need a source for a post, you will often grab something from near the top in Google which states the same facts as the ones you picked up on in the alternative media.

I'm quite sure that Failed didn't learn about Operation Northwoods from ABC. It's quite likely that ABC have posted the story in an attempt to beat other articles (in Google) that link the story with 911

ninavain 05-18-2012 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 18952250)
You are free to believe whatever you choose to believe however flawed your thinking may be...and it is flawed...as proven in your post.

if you believe the opposite , then your thinking is just as flawed

scottybuzz 05-18-2012 11:23 AM

i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.

stop being such a fucking idiot.

please?

Failed 05-18-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18952918)
Most pick up on Operation Northwoods from the alternative media, though when you quickly need a source for a post, you will often grab something from near the top in Google which states the same facts as the ones you picked up on in the alternative media.

I'm quite sure that Failed didn't learn about Operation Northwoods from ABC. It's quite likely that ABC have posted the story in an attempt to beat other articles (in Google) that link the story with 911

I actually used ABC as the source link so that it would be considered more trustworthy than some of the alternative sources. But, I suppose some aren't able to accept facts no matter what the source. What baffles me is that they are government documents, printed plans, signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and it's still not fact to some???

wehateporn 05-18-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Failed (Post 18953571)
I actually used ABC as the source link so that it would be considered more trustworthy than some of the alternative sources. But, I suppose some aren't able to accept facts no matter what the source. What baffles me is that they are government documents, printed plans, signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and it's still not fact to some???

Same as I do; you give the opposition sources that they trust. Like you say, if someone really wanted to find out more, they could do so and work out that these are legit documents

wehateporn 05-20-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 18953507)
i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.

stop being such a fucking idiot.

please?

If you still need me to explain this let me know, but I'm assuming you've had time to work it out for yourself and would delete your response if you could. We all make mistakes, so no worries

Rochard 05-20-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 18953507)
i love your little point about announced on the bbc.

yes, like the fucking bbc were in on the whole consipracy. Like those in charge of the operation would really tell a media outlet about their plans.

I always found that comical when the truthers point to the BBC an say "They announced it before it happened". Really? So "they" told the BBC about it before hand?

That's funny.

epitome 05-20-2012 05:52 PM

I can't imagine how difficult it must be for some of you to leave your house.

wehateporn 05-20-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18956627)
I can't imagine how difficult it must be for some of you to leave your house.

It is those who believe in the terrorists who live in fear. Truthers are just pointing out the Truth, there's a crime that's taken place and the criminals need to be brought to justice

-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

lazycash 05-20-2012 06:48 PM

Franck, please come back.

Young 05-20-2012 07:31 PM

I'm certain that conspiracy theorists brains are wired differently. Because I can not for-the-life-of-me imagine how the fuck they swallow this shit.

Dcat 05-21-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18952267)
I always viewed the "No Planes" theory as being Divide and Conquer. It would be a huge risk for them to have tried this with no planes, given that there are so many tourists roaming the streets of New York with their camcorders. I can't see any advantage of them not using real planes, unless they weren't confident of them hitting. Still, I didn't see with my own eyes, so I'll need to continue researching this one.

The video does make a direct 'divide and conquer' statement in the final minute

I can see why it would be worth preparing fake footage in advance, in case anything went wrong on the day. Fake footage might exist that was created before 9/11, but personally I still believe strongly that planes hit the buildings

This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense. :2 cents:

BFT3K 05-22-2012 01:31 PM



https://youtube.com/watch?v=B65M_smGewo

xNetworx 05-22-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18959882)

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Qua...97_1654788.jpg

theking 05-22-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18957934)
This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense. :2 cents:

Pigshit.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 05-22-2012 01:41 PM

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BFT3K 05-31-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18951678)
If you have not yet seen this, take a look.



Ace Baker provides the best and most thorough analysis proving that real planes did not hit the WTC. Yes, it's very difficult to believe that the various videos and photos showing planes hitting the WTC on 9/11 were all digitally manipulated, and that the various lie-witnesses lied about seeing planes, and that the mainstream media video feed was compromised, but the facts presented in this video leave no doubt that the videos showing planes crashing into the WTC are digital deceptions.

Any idea where else someone can find this clip, now that it has been removed from YouTube?

xNetworx 05-31-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18974387)
Any idea where else someone can find this clip, now that it has been removed from YouTube?

No. PS. This is for morons

wehateporn 05-31-2012 08:56 AM

Here's where the plan went wrong for Flight 93, meaning that WTC7 was left without a plane in it

Wikipedia - United Airlines Flight 93
"The aircraft was scheduled to depart at 08:00 and pushed back from gate A17 at 08:01.[26] It remained delayed on the ground and did not take off until 08:42 because of heavy airport congestion, just four minutes before American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.[27] The three other hijacked flights all departed within fifteen minutes of their scheduled times."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93

wehateporn 05-31-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 18957934)
This is what you want to take a good look at:

http://www.disclose.tv/forum/dimitri...st-t21675.html

..after this, almost everything about 9/11 will make more sense. :2 cents:

Thanks Dcat, I'll watch this in the next few days

pimpmaster9000 05-31-2012 10:12 AM

Its all explained here: :1orglaugh

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...35927_460s.jpg

wehateporn 05-31-2012 01:52 PM

You are clearly an advocate of the 'No Planes' theory

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 18974681)


2MuchMark 05-31-2012 02:36 PM

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...read_again.jpg

Rochard 05-31-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18956636)
It is those who believe in the terrorists who live in fear. Truthers are just pointing out the Truth, there's a crime that's taken place and the criminals need to be brought to justice

-- You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 12,571 times more likely to die from cancer than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane

-- You are 1048 times more likely to die from a car accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 404 times more likely to die in a fall than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 87 times more likely to drown than die in a terrorist attack

-- You are 13 times more likely to die in a railway accident than from a terrorist attack

--You are 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed than from a terrorist attack

--You are 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit than die in a terrorist attack

--You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist

--You are 8 times more likely to die from accidental electrocution than from a terrorist attack

-- You are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack

Oh, I'm not worried about me being killed by a terrorist. But that's not the point. That's like saying "Well, the odds of me being shot by a murderer are about zero, so we no longer need law enforcement".

epitome 05-31-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 18975549)
Oh, I'm not worried about me being killed by a terrorist. But that's not the point. That's like saying "Well, the odds of me being shot by a murderer are about zero, so we no longer need law enforcement".

JohnnyClips would say that. :2 cents:

ShoeBox 06-01-2012 12:58 AM

whoever thinks and believes all these conspiracys are mentally fucking stupid , just like yes signals

wehateporn 06-01-2012 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ShoeBox (Post 18976145)
whoever thinks and believes all these conspiracys are mentally fucking stupid , just like yes signals

You're right, to believe ALL Conspiracies are legit is just as dumb as to believe that NO Conspiracies are legit, it would be an over-simplification; each Conspiracy needs to be investigated individually, one will then discover that some are genuine while others are a joke.


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