Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18955533)

Hang on a minute...I think that Zimmerman obviously didn't "confront" him correctly. If you or anybody else came up to me all cocky and demanded what i was doing...I'd tell you "fuck off, it's a free country"

Now if you came up to me and politely explained that there had been some robberies in the neighborhood and you were the Neighborhood Watch...Then I would politely explain that I was walking to the house and thank you for keeping an eye on the neighborhood.

But nobody has to explain shit to anybody else.

I think that GZ probably didn't approach him with the correct attitude. (short guys are always over aggressive anyway in my experience) Then TM, being young and full of testosterone, felt disrespected and started kicking his ass.

It was obviously a bad situation all the way around.
I'm guessing that the gun gave GZ a false sense of bravado and he should have just stayed in the truck. But hindsight IS 20/20

And now a young man is dead. GZ's life is over too. And both families are ruined.

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 18955464)

He has been confirmed hispanic. You are correct sir! Not Caucasian!

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18955738)

You've heard wrong plenty and each time you've come here stating it as fact.

Seems you'd be better off just keeping your mouth shut on the subject.

But that's just my :2 cents:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18955879)

Not that being in a neighborhood watch is "man's job", but for the sake of argument lets lump it in with other police-type work. These kind of jobs require an actual man who can handle situations. People get shot (and tazed) when scared little boys are trying to do a man's job. A lot of cops fall into this category also. They're ready to use deadly force at any moment that there's even a possibility of bodily harm coming to them.

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18955473)

No prob...

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Originally Posted by Timsb (Post 18955520)

If he would've did like the 911 operator told him to do and not follow him everything would be fine he better go to jail or go into hiding.

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 18955974)

Guns are for pussy motherfuckers. I say lock that burrito up

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 18955405)

Trayvon was actually only 5'11" and weighed 158 lbs? So um Jorge a 158 lb 17 yr old beat your ass, I can understand why you shot him now. The witnesses and coroner will be your downfall. Just_Alex have you prepped your client? http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin...opstories.html

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18955499)

I don't think it really matters who the aggressor is. One man was unarmed and that is where the problem is.

I'm sure that GZ was scared when the bigger black guy started kicking his ass. But if we all drew a gun and shot to death somebody every time we got scared...

I think the prosecutor is ultimately the one who has screwed the case up. She got scared of all the insanity from the black leadership and was afraid of violence erupting.

So she has "over-charged" the case in my opinion. And now if the jury doesn't find him guilty of everything...the black community will be outraged and the bad parts of it will use it as an excuse to riot (and loot and rob every business in the community).

The whole thing is a nightmare. Zimmerman should have stayed in his truck. But I can't honestly say what I would have done in the same situation.
I probably would have gotten out too and confronted Martin. But I'm big enough that most times when I confront folks it doesn't turn into a fight.

Zimmerman was too little (short) to be confronting someone. Which probably led to a pissed off Martin deciding to kick his ass.

So instead of a conversation, it became a fist fight. And GZ brought a gun to a fistfight and we all know what happened.

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 18956504)

I could be wrong but even if the prosecuter charges second-degree and doesn't make the case, the jury can still convict on manslaughter.