After all the gun threads over the years on GFY, I am beginning to think that the haters are simply jealous because they can't pass a simple background check to buy a gun.

I would post more on this topic, but I hear someone rambling around in my garbage cans. Let me grab my 45 from my granddaughter and go check it out. She's only two so I know she's gonna cry when I take it away from her.

fitty............one............. pea shooters ....... damn slow airport connection:mad:

Aaron,

I'm in the market for my first gun, call it self protection.

I know your going to hate this,

but I need something very cheap as I don't have a large budget for this type of thing.

Need something cheap, reliable, and fairly accurate.. I do want it to have some power.

Any suggestions? Total beginner. Not in it for interest, but function.

Solid advice

Indeed,

under $400 and great reviews.

How difficult is it to buy over the internet?

I just sold my last 9mm a few months ago..

moving all to 40sw and 45

Lots of really nice guns posted :)

Check out GunBroker.com for new and used firearms.

Regardless of where you purchase a hand gun it will only be shipped to a licensed (FFL) holder where you can pick it up.

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Got a few questions for you.

1: Will this be a carry weapon or home defense only?

2: Will you be the only person shooting it or will a GF/Wife also use it?

3: If other people than you, how strong are they compared to you? Come to think of it, how strong are you?

4: What State do you live in? (the previously mentioned Taurus is not legal in all States)

5: What kind of capacity are you interested in?

Here's what I keep handy in the house, a shotgun with the basics of a revolver. It's a S&W that shoots .410 000 Buckshot. Also shoots .45's and when loaded with bird shot is great for snakes.


http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1927/img0269av.jpg


Link to a better photo and information;

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...2_757992_image

always nice to see somebody on gfy asking the right responsible questions about gun buying. I know you know your stuff, still, it's nice to see a bit of wisdom.

I like the 9mm round. It shoots nicely, it's easy to fire multiple shots with accuracy, commonly available, inexpensive, with a good range of bullets and loads.

The Guvna! Ive always wanted to try out that or the Judge.

Do you keep it loaded with .410?

for that kind of dough id have gotten myself a kimber gold match II or something along those lines....

thats just me though. i've never really been a fan of glocks. don't get me wrong they are good guns. just not my style.

.410 000 Buckshot ...... The pattern breaks up pretty quick at any kind of distance but up close it's something else.

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Not at all. I live in the country where firearms are forbidden (excepting hunting weapons of course). The country where the kids don't brings guns in the school to make a blood, and there ethnic gangs don't shoot each other while driving the car on the crowded streets. Thus I have a very different point of view on firearms and their necessity for civilians.

The non-lethal weapon is another thing, although I'm think that traumatic guns must be seriously limited here as well, because they rather often used to kill.

P.S. I'm not the type of men who don't know how to use firearms and just afraid of 'em. I've been to army and I'm very friendly with standard Russian weapons. Furthermore I was learning the art of gun shooting since I was 11 year old as a pentathlon sportsman (MCM pistol was my first gun :)).

It's pointless owning a firearm if all you do is shoot it at a target and think your hot shit. Oh and show it off on an adult board :2 cents:

That's why I keep waiting for some low life to break into my house.

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hahahahahahas!

you are not making any sense.

a rational person owns a firearm hoping they will never have to use it to kill another person.

they practice with it both for personal pleasure, the mastery of a complex skill, and so that if they ever have to use it to kill someone their training and practice makes it possible for them to do so despite adrenaline shakes and bad lighting and fear for ones life and the lifes of others.

shooting, in case you did not know, is hellacious fun. There are not a lot of things more fun.

I'm not much of a man's man, one of the boys etc, but shooting is a real man's sport. Half the user's on GFY have never had a calous on their hand let alone felt the joy of gunpowder on their teeth after emptying 10 30 round clips from a AR15 into a junk car. That's a big problem with the new generation, they are afraid to get thier hands dirty, it would make texting on their iphone too messy. A lot of these guys here sound like fucking girls, oh no, guns are bad, how could you like something so deadly. Grow some balls, get a shot of testosterone, and take the fucking dress off for a day.

I love your thought process! It's much better to be in an actual life and death situation to find out you're not very proficient or accurate with a weapon. That way the attacker can take your weapon from you while you watch him kill your family with it.

If we could only practice shooting homeless people to get some "real-world" training.

A gun is a tool. Bragging about and showing off guns is as lame as showing off your pimped out hammer.

Speaking of tools...

So is a car, a computer, television, etc. You have no preference in what interests you?

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None of those things are made specifically for injuring or killing other living creatures.

I'm pro gun rights, but waving them around says something very negative about the owner.

Knock down power, wtf? The difference in power between 9/40/45 is irrelevant. Shooter skill will determine outcome much more than the size of a hole.

I wouldn't consider having a discussion about guns on a webmaster board "waving them around".

Most guns owners hope they will never have to use a gun to defend themselves. Even if it's justified, killing someone would be a horrible experience not to mention very expensive.

Most gun fights take place within 7-10 feet so you don't have to be that great of a shot to hit your target but you do have to be comfortable using it to be proficient. Gun owners/collectors like to shoot paper targets because it's challenging so it's something they are proud of.

LOL so dumb

You are wrong. Almost all cops carry a 45 or a 10mm here in central florida for a reason. A 9mm can go right thru a person without that person being wounded seriously. He would flinch but keep coming at you. Hit him with a 45 and he's going to the ground PERIOD.

a gun is nothing short of a technically developed rock sling.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5poKOBB3tr...pUo/s400/1.jpg

wonder if the fellows back in the stone age were also bragging about their weapons?

Wrong...it is important to put your attacker on his ass...and it is possible for a person to take several 9mm hits and keep coming but usually a single hit with a .45 will put the attacker on his ass.

From the beginning of time people have decorated and displayed their various weapons.

Discussing isn't bragging. I see nobody bragging in this thread.

I wonder if fellows back in the stone age trolled others or respected their rights to carry a "rock sling"? Were they afraid to leave their caves without a spear? :1orglaugh

Where do you people live that you need to carry such weapons for 'protection'?
What is it that you do that requires such 'protection'?
Do you tote around gold bars in a briefcase attached to your wrist w/ a long handcuff that you need such 'protection' on you at all times?
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/..._briefcase.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem w/ guns. I own two myself but I don't carry them on me all the time like I'm Dirty Harry. haha

There is a great gun.. a kimber

Unless there are Grizzly bears where you live 9mm is more than enough.

If a person is concerned about the knock down power of a 9mm I would suggest they learn to pull the trigger faster. :)

I hate guns. :2 cents:

naw, definitively some braggin' going on here, but my comment was not meant in a derogatory way.
brag away please:winkwink:

so you don't need a spare tire for your car.... because you only drive on smooth roads????

or endlessly blabbing about mac's???

really nice toys guys! :winkwink:

Actually the only time I carry a gun in my pocket is when I am buying gold or silver which is 2 to 3 times a week. I carry a cheap 5 round 38 hammerless revolver. I do keep a gun in my car at all times though. I do think it overboard to carry a gun into Walmart and places like that. If I gotta piss really bad and have to run into a seedy looking 7-11 with bros hanging out front then yeah I may carry while I piss. I almost got robbed one time in a situation like that and swore never again to be unarmed. I do think Aaron is overboard with carrying everywhere, but that is his legal right and none of my business. If he were drinking booze while carrying around me then it would become my business and I would have a serious problem with it. Other than that it's his right.

Thats one thing Aaron tends not to do... Drink and pack. If hes in public he keeps it cool. He even sticks to water if he decides to not unpack.

If you were almost robbed once I'm sure you can imagine a scenario where you might need a gun anywhere, so why not carry everywhere you're legally allowed to carry? Especially Walmart. There are lots of people in there who I can easily see going postal for some stupid reason or other.

General rule of thumb I use is to carry only if I have 5k or more cash,silver, or gold on me. I guess I'm just not comfortable going into walmart to pick up shampoo with a gun in my pocket. Each to his own.

one of my carry guns..

h&k - sorry my phone takes shity pics.. but I do have a ton of hot girls with the gun..

http://internetnudemodels.com/samples/p2k.jpg

I love the way some people are saying about "oh you wouldn't drive without a spare tire" or "you don't go hiking without a flare" etc.

No you probably don't do those things unless you're in the "that won't happen to me" mindset.

But when you talk about guns, the main reason people carry pistols in the USA has to be because they are protecting themselves from potential handgun or other weapons owners that could become a very true threat, at that point I totally agree with people owning handguns.

But what happens when handguns are 100% illegal? and they cannot be carried? I'm guessing a lot less people get killed and a lot less people get injured.

Point being the majority of countries with much stricter rules have much lower murder rates. Just check the figures.

I don't think any normal person should ever feel the need to even carry a weapon around with them but I can see why people in certain countries or even as deep as square miles do.

And on the subject of guns themselves I think many of them are works of art and an interesting piece of engineering but I would never promote everyone carrying a gun with them everywhere they go because it wouldn't be long before the next weapon got developed to give the upper edge over the gun. Don't even think I'm being naive because that is where that road goes. Someone who wants to protect themselves from guns will eventually find a preventative or pre-emptive measure that will hurt gun owners.

Actually what will happen is you will be taking away my right to protect myself. Guns are an equalizer. I'm 50, I can't defend myself against a couple of guys half my age that assault me or break into my house.

Anyone relying on the ability of police to protect them is deceiving themselves. I'd rather do it myself. So I'm a gun owner.

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