a gun is nothing short of a technically developed rock sling.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5poKOBB3tr...pUo/s400/1.jpg

wonder if the fellows back in the stone age were also bragging about their weapons?

Wrong...it is important to put your attacker on his ass...and it is possible for a person to take several 9mm hits and keep coming but usually a single hit with a .45 will put the attacker on his ass.

From the beginning of time people have decorated and displayed their various weapons.

Discussing isn't bragging. I see nobody bragging in this thread.

I wonder if fellows back in the stone age trolled others or respected their rights to carry a "rock sling"? Were they afraid to leave their caves without a spear? :1orglaugh

Where do you people live that you need to carry such weapons for 'protection'?
What is it that you do that requires such 'protection'?
Do you tote around gold bars in a briefcase attached to your wrist w/ a long handcuff that you need such 'protection' on you at all times?
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/..._briefcase.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem w/ guns. I own two myself but I don't carry them on me all the time like I'm Dirty Harry. haha

There is a great gun.. a kimber

Unless there are Grizzly bears where you live 9mm is more than enough.

If a person is concerned about the knock down power of a 9mm I would suggest they learn to pull the trigger faster. :)

I hate guns. :2 cents:

naw, definitively some braggin' going on here, but my comment was not meant in a derogatory way.
brag away please:winkwink:

so you don't need a spare tire for your car.... because you only drive on smooth roads????

or endlessly blabbing about mac's???

really nice toys guys! :winkwink:

Actually the only time I carry a gun in my pocket is when I am buying gold or silver which is 2 to 3 times a week. I carry a cheap 5 round 38 hammerless revolver. I do keep a gun in my car at all times though. I do think it overboard to carry a gun into Walmart and places like that. If I gotta piss really bad and have to run into a seedy looking 7-11 with bros hanging out front then yeah I may carry while I piss. I almost got robbed one time in a situation like that and swore never again to be unarmed. I do think Aaron is overboard with carrying everywhere, but that is his legal right and none of my business. If he were drinking booze while carrying around me then it would become my business and I would have a serious problem with it. Other than that it's his right.

Thats one thing Aaron tends not to do... Drink and pack. If hes in public he keeps it cool. He even sticks to water if he decides to not unpack.

If you were almost robbed once I'm sure you can imagine a scenario where you might need a gun anywhere, so why not carry everywhere you're legally allowed to carry? Especially Walmart. There are lots of people in there who I can easily see going postal for some stupid reason or other.

General rule of thumb I use is to carry only if I have 5k or more cash,silver, or gold on me. I guess I'm just not comfortable going into walmart to pick up shampoo with a gun in my pocket. Each to his own.

one of my carry guns..

h&k - sorry my phone takes shity pics.. but I do have a ton of hot girls with the gun..

http://internetnudemodels.com/samples/p2k.jpg

I love the way some people are saying about "oh you wouldn't drive without a spare tire" or "you don't go hiking without a flare" etc.

No you probably don't do those things unless you're in the "that won't happen to me" mindset.

But when you talk about guns, the main reason people carry pistols in the USA has to be because they are protecting themselves from potential handgun or other weapons owners that could become a very true threat, at that point I totally agree with people owning handguns.

But what happens when handguns are 100% illegal? and they cannot be carried? I'm guessing a lot less people get killed and a lot less people get injured.

Point being the majority of countries with much stricter rules have much lower murder rates. Just check the figures.

I don't think any normal person should ever feel the need to even carry a weapon around with them but I can see why people in certain countries or even as deep as square miles do.

And on the subject of guns themselves I think many of them are works of art and an interesting piece of engineering but I would never promote everyone carrying a gun with them everywhere they go because it wouldn't be long before the next weapon got developed to give the upper edge over the gun. Don't even think I'm being naive because that is where that road goes. Someone who wants to protect themselves from guns will eventually find a preventative or pre-emptive measure that will hurt gun owners.

Actually what will happen is you will be taking away my right to protect myself. Guns are an equalizer. I'm 50, I can't defend myself against a couple of guys half my age that assault me or break into my house.

Anyone relying on the ability of police to protect them is deceiving themselves. I'd rather do it myself. So I'm a gun owner.

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Definitely. Because criminals are going to go, "Oh, crap! These things are illegal! Nobody else is carrying them so I better get rid of mine, too!"

Right?

I get the self defense thing, I really do but what are you defending yourself from? A broken society by the sounds of it.

In places like China, Japan, The UK, Netherlands etc. it is either illegal or extremely strict and all of those countries have much lower homicide rates.

The UK has more crime though per capita, but I blame the legal system for that, far too soft.

Work it out, less handguns sold = less handguns available = less people getting shot and killed. Pretty damn simple.

The thing the makes me laugh about your law is that you can legally (in some places) be armed inside a bank.

Going into the bank to withdraw money, you pull out your wallet and request a withdraw at the ATM, Is only a few bad steps away from going into the to withdraw money, you pull out your gun and make request everybody get the fuck down and hand me over your money.

I remember Aaron saying about a person in the bank with a concealed carry could stop a robbery etc. but what happens when the only person in the bank is the wrong guy with the gun who wants to rob the place?

I carry a gun into the bank with me. If a guy's gonna rob a bank he's gonna rob a bank. He won't go get a Concealed Carry permit before doing so.

Yes, but what I'm saying is this; You can legally carry a weapon into the bank with you, maybe you can't make your mortage payment and are in a depressed mood, you're still a legally armed citizen at this point. Then you look around as you enter the door, you're the only person there other than the staff, now you're thinking ok I'm the only one here! I could solve all my problems (not that it will actually solve anything) by robbing this place, Out comes the gun that was up until the moment you pointed it at the cashier legally carried into the bank and you can make the rest up in your own mind.

Yes, that happens all the time. Right?

Since we're talking about fantasy, I'll play along:
We should totally outlaw cars. Because let's say I'm driving one. And let's say I'm behind on both my mortgage payments AND my car payment. And I drive by a bank at the beginning of the month when banks carry more cash to give out to all those darn welfare recipients who don't deserve it. We all know those people don't wake up very early, and I'm driving by right as the bank opens. So I'm thinking, "Wow, those welfare recipients don't deserve all the cash that's in that bank right now, and they aren't awake yet to get it, so I probably won't hurt anyone when I ram through this window, and if I go fast enough I can wind up in the vault and get all that money!" Of course, doing that won't actually solve anything. You can make up the way I get away in your mind.

That's so far out in la-la land I can't even respond.

It's like you've lost the ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

Fantasy? It was a theoretical example of how having a concealed hand gun present legally could quickly turn into a tragedy.

Who are these people in Indiana being held up by at the moment? Probably a law abiding citizen with a legally registered gun who has chosen to use it for crime.

I could be wrong of course just guessing.

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600 rounds!

jesus christ.

is there no pressure to the spring in the magazine? 600 rounds of reloading, I'm left questioning if you have any skin left on your thumb????????

I don't use handguns, but I've shot off a brick or two of ammo in my time and whenever I get over a few hundred rounds with just a .22 it tears the hell out of my thumb loading the bullets....


or do you have some sort of mechanical loading device?

statistically, this is true.

in fact, if you think about it, if you're going to commit a crime with a gun, it's much better to have an illegal stolen or untraceable gun.

people buy guns for many different reason, some are they like to collect them, shooting practice. There cool to have one. For protection against robbers, etcs

What he said...

I had the same thought.

I figured he's using a loader, or that there were multiple people shooting and taking turns thumbing in the rounds.

It's a bit easier to push in 17 rounds (or whatever) taking turns, and doing it a bit more slowly while another shoots.

that's an EXTREMELY uncharacteristic gun owning crime.

much more characteristic are the following scenarios.

a gun is improperly stored and a kid gets hurt or killed by playing with it.

a gun owner uses the gun to kill his wife/girlfriend.

a gun owner kills a friend or neighbor in a drunken rage, or a drunken accident.

yes, sometimes a gun owner will use a gun to commit a crime in hopes of making money, usually because they have lost their job and been out of work long enough to be desperate. but, it's a planned crime, not often an impulse crime, and the carry is illegal from the outset, not permitted.

this all is entirely seperate from the many people who are already inclined to crime who get guns either legally or illegally, which of course is also relatively common.

I was excited to get a sig sauer 1911 tacops, but then my car broke down
(life kinda f*cked me there..) (I had originally wanted a nightmare edition, but that wasn't CA legal.. f*cking CA gun laws... - but that's a discussion/rant for another forum for another day)

It was between that or a HK usp45..