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Robbie 06-03-2012 02:45 PM

Today, 02:41 PM
gideongallery
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Damn...unbelievable!

papill0n 06-03-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18984139)
I wonder if a guy who was nothing but an EMPLOYEE of http://www.*****************/ should really be posting all the time on a porn forum. And worse...posting pro-piracy. I'll bet that an employer like Akira wouldn't look kindly on that.



he works for that company ?

L-Pink 06-03-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18984802)
he works for that company ?

That's how I read it. I wonder if his company knows how much more money they would make if they gave away all their products for free?

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L-Pink 06-03-2012 09:41 PM

Gideon, how come your company charges for their product? Shouldn't it be free?

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papill0n 06-03-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18984832)
That's how I read it. I wonder if his company knows how much more money they would make if they gave away all their products for free?

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fuck giving shit away. this is 2012. apparently you just take it now. :ak47:

epitome 06-03-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18984139)
I wonder if a guy who was nothing but an EMPLOYEE of http://www.*****************/ should really be posting all the time on a porn forum. And worse...posting pro-piracy. I'll bet that an employer like Akira wouldn't look kindly on that.

It's sad when somebody claims to make tons of money from piracy...and really just works for someone else.

But if I were that person...I think I would STOP posting on GFY. People lose their jobs just for posting stupid shit on their FaceBook page. It would be a damn shame if one of the people that have had enough of the insanity would contact an employer and show them all of these posts.

The charade is up gideongallery. And all the people you've thought it was so funny to troll...now know everything about you.

I know you're stupid...but the best thing for you to do in your life is to let this thread die. And go away quietly.

Posting on GFY and fucking with people doesn't make you a dollar in this world. But it could cost you very dearly.

Remember who you really are...and not the insane delusional character of gideongallery. You are really just a guy who works for a company and gets a weekly paycheck. Now go away before your own posts on GFY end up costing you. It ain't worth it.

And by the way...Every bit of the info (that is public by the way) that has been shown in this thread came from other people who ARE very angry with you. To me, you're just an idiot.

They, on the other hand, are pissed as hell. I'd stop now if I were you.

He posts during the day when he should probably be working. Maybe his company considers personal activities during work to be fair use of company time?

Let's test Gideons theory. Gideon, please torrent the source code of your company's products and we will change one line of the code and call it fair use as we provide it to others for free. Let's see how long the company survives.

papill0n 06-03-2012 09:46 PM

if he actually does work for that company then it's

http://i.imgur.com/S2Mik.jpg

epitome 06-03-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18984848)
if he actually does work for that company then it's

http://i.imgur.com/S2Mik.jpg

I personally would never make contact with his company but he has pissed off a lot of people here who have been hurt by the piracy he argues for.

papill0n 06-03-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18984845)
He posts during the day when he should probably be working. Maybe his company considers personal activities during work to be fair use of company time?

Let's test Gideons theory. Gideon, please torrent the source code of your company's products and we will change one line of the code and call it fair use as we provide it to others for free. Let's see how long the company survives.

hey its all fair use! how dare they not want us to take and distribute their property !

papill0n 06-03-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18984852)
I personally would never make contact with his company but he has pissed off a lot of people here who have been hurt by the piracy he argues for.

dont worry if its confirmed there will be plenty that will :1orglaugh

DamianJ 06-04-2012 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18984417)
Today, 01:50 PM
gideongallery
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Wow...I can't believe you're still posting on here. I knew you weren't very smart, but this is just insane of you.
I really feel sorry for you gideongallery. You are making the mistake of a lifetime.

You are now threatening him?

You're really ramming loads of coke up your nose today, aren't you?

gideongallery 06-04-2012 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18984845)
He posts during the day when he should probably be working. Maybe his company considers personal activities during work to be fair use of company time?

Let's test Gideons theory. Gideon, please torrent the source code of your company's products and we will change one line of the code and call it fair use as we provide it to others for free. Let's see how long the company survives.

fair use only happens after you BOUGHT the product.

Buy source code access and you can do whatever you want with it.

SAS (software as a service) and custom extensions are both ways to deal with piracy issue

Your not paying for the content your paying for the maintenance of that content

Your not paying for the content your paying for the custom variations on the base of content.

PornoMonster 06-04-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18983986)
so sorry you have to respect principles like due process when demanding people take down content that MAY be illegally posted.

How dare people expect to be protected by the process of law.

MAY be illegally posted? If the owner is asking to have it taken down, it IS illegally posted.

Can we Fair Use your Wife or GF?? Then you can fill out the propper forms that I will MALE UP, so you can jump thru hoops while I rail the shit out of her.

Don't even reply you are going on ignoe. In my opnion you are and support thiefs, if you honestly think there is some work around bs, you need some meds!

Deuces!

gideongallery 06-04-2012 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18984845)
He posts during the day when he should probably be working. Maybe his company considers personal activities during work to be fair use of company time?

Let's test Gideons theory. Gideon, please torrent the source code of your company's products and we will change one line of the code and call it fair use as we provide it to others for free. Let's see how long the company survives.

if you bought something you have a fair use right to back it up to the torrents

if you haven't bought it you don't have a fair use right to back it up.

hire akira to custom code an application for you and put it up on the torrent sites if you want

That is your fair use right because you BOUGHT THE CONTENT in the mode you are distributing it.

Dirty Dane 06-04-2012 06:45 AM

http://i.imgur.com/2hvTT.gif

epitome 06-04-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18985061)
if you bought something you have a fair use right to back it up to the torrents

if you haven't bought it you don't have a fair use right to back it up.

hire akira to custom code an application for you and put it up on the torrent sites if you want

That is your fair use right because you BOUGHT THE CONTENT in the mode you are distributing it.

Don't worry, after a million people download it and some form fillerage by your employer it may or may not be removed. I just they hope they use the right format.

Major (Tom) 06-04-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18985049)
fair use only happens after you BOUGHT the product.

Buy source code access and you can do whatever you want with it.

SAS (software as a service) and custom extensions are both ways to deal with piracy issue

Your not paying for the content your paying for the maintenance of that content

Your not paying for the content your paying for the custom variations on the base of content.


So mr gallbladder, you are saying if you purchase my content you are allowed under fair use to pirate it? That's horseshit.
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DWB 06-04-2012 08:39 AM

No they should not pay a fee. However, if it is fraudulent and the DMCA is uncontested, the sender should be fined a very large amount, per DMCA.

Sending a false DMCA should be a felony punishable by a very large fine and jail time for repeat offenders.

Barefootsies 06-04-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18975695)
At the same time, people making false and particularly reckless or intentionally false claims should be held responsible. So I'd say steep penalties for reckless false claims. Much smaller for reasonable but mistaken claims.

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Legal compliant claims should be honored as a part of doing business. False b.s. costs a lot of man hours, and I believe is also illegal. For those sorts of requests, the submitted should be held responsible as it can bog down the process for legit requests to be taken down in a timely fashion.

Many, not all, ISP's work on thin margins. They do not have the resources available to be sitting around all day sorting out the right from wrong DMCA requests from the legit ones. Abusing the DMCA process should have some sort of repercussions in place.

pimpmaster9000 06-04-2012 11:13 AM

gideon...


why don't you tell us how your new secret 45 step system to generate huge traffic by giving away shit for free is going? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you have not made a single cent have you? :1orglaugh

nice of you to educate us all anyway :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

your opinion is worth a lot :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CDSmith 06-04-2012 11:34 AM

No, what websites should do is remove the content they're being told to remove.

And dopes like Gideon should quit spending so much time thinking up ways of monetizing unfair/unauthorized use.

Why 06-04-2012 11:42 AM

people arguing international law and politics on GFY is laughable.

Canada has its sovereign right to govern its share of the internet as it sees fit. don't like it, don't deal with Canadian businesses.

America as a whole DOES NOT respect international copyrights either, so why should anyone else? Kobe beef, champagne, romano cheese, to name a few, the list is very very long. in fact we are not even a signatory on a number of large copyright and trade treaties... frankly we brought it on ourselfs(or, well our elected officials did).

@Xpays... LOL, all internet does NOT go through Virginia, only stuff hosted on .com's. intl law has proven this many times before. if it was ran by us, why does al queda still have websites, why are there websites that have animal sex on them, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... drr.

PornoMonster 06-04-2012 12:38 PM

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uniquemkt 06-04-2012 01:04 PM

Wow, this thread needs Ritalin.

Robbie 06-04-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Why (Post 18985744)
America as a whole DOES NOT respect international copyrights either, so why should anyone else? Kobe beef, champagne, romano cheese, to name a few, the list is very very long..

Champagne? I'm not up to speed on that...but as I understood it: If a bottle of champagne is NOT made in France it is labeled "Sparkling wine" So you might be a little bit off on that one.

papill0n 06-04-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 18985744)
people arguing international law and politics on GFY is laughable.

Canada has its sovereign right to govern its share of the internet as it sees fit. don't like it, don't deal with Canadian businesses.

America as a whole DOES NOT respect international copyrights either, so why should anyone else? Kobe beef, champagne, romano cheese, to name a few, the list is very very long. in fact we are not even a signatory on a number of large copyright and trade treaties... frankly we brought it on ourselfs(or, well our elected officials did).

@Xpays... LOL, all internet does NOT go through Virginia, only stuff hosted on .com's. intl law has proven this many times before. if it was ran by us, why does al queda still have websites, why are there websites that have animal sex on them, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc... drr.

holy fucking christ where do these stupid cunts come from ??????

great post genius you sound like a real smart guy :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

papill0n 06-04-2012 02:31 PM

jaquesweb.com is that the little fucking cunts site ?

Robbie 06-04-2012 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 18986021)
jaquesweb.com is that the little fucking cunts site ?

jacquesweb.com is one of his sites. Cam Ta Ta listed some others in this thread.
None of them are operational (he is a complete fail)

And the jacquesweb.com site was WIDE open. No index. Mr. "genius" "programmer" is so unsavvy with the internet that he didn't even understand that. It took him two days to figure out how we were all hotlinking images from his own box! lol

So people have been looking all over his stuff that he had in folders in there.
Turns out he doesn't know how to code anything, and tried (and failed) to use Front Page Extensions to build several failed websites that he was too ignorant to even be able to make a page on.

It was all in the folders on jacquesweb.com Funny as hell.

Even a folder for his failed "torrent recorder" with a pirated movie in it lol

My guess is that Aaron Jacques is a low level employee at Akira Systems in London, Ontario Canada. He sure as hell isn't educated or smart enough to be a programmer. And even IF he somehow is...it just shows the delusional thinking of the idiot.

He claimed on here all along that he was making a fortune teaching people how to make money using the give it all away for free business model. (remember his claim that he was managing several bands and making them all rich and charging them $5,000 plus a percentage of their earnings LOL)

Turns out he's just another crazy "pussyserver" type with delusions of grandeur and a nasty streak for fucking with people's livelihoods (taunting paysite and content owners while they are struggling to make a living in the age of piracy).

To all of you who he disrespected all these years and laughed at you and rubbed piracy in your noses while you worked harder and harder to support your families...here's your chance to give him a taste of his own medicine.

I'm sure that the company he works for wouldn't appreciate one of their employees posting on an adult biz forum and championing "fair use" (piracy). Hell, people get fired everyday just for saying the wrong thing on their FaceBook page.

Here's your opportunity to let Aaron Jacques know how much you appreciate his needling and trolling over the years as he tried his best to help destroy your business:
http://*****************/index.php/support/
Click on "Email Us" and let them know.

L-Pink 06-04-2012 03:29 PM

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/329...repackage1.jpg

Multiple choice quiz ....... Pick the proud owner of "jacquesweb.com"

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gideongallery 06-04-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18986045)

He claimed on here all along that he was making a fortune teaching people how to make money using the give it all away for free business model. (remember his claim that he was managing several bands and making them all rich and charging them $5,000 plus a percentage of their earnings LOL)

i said we not I was splitting that with a bunch of people.

you know that because you kept insulting me about how these partners were made up.

I only got a small fraction of that money.



Quote:

I'm sure that the company he works for wouldn't appreciate one of their employees posting on an adult biz forum and championing "fair use" (piracy). Hell, people get fired everyday just for saying the wrong thing on their FaceBook page.

Here's your opportunity to let Aaron Jacques know how much you appreciate his needling and trolling over the years as he tried his best to help destroy your business:
http://*****************/index.php/support/
Click on "Email Us" and let them know.

so now your not even pretending that you are giving a backhanded call to action to try and get me fired

Why do you believe this doesn't represent trying to harm me or my business.


Quote:

Insinuations Meant to Do Harm Any insinuations made in an attempt to do harm to a person (personal attack) or business, shall be grounds for immediate banning.
All because you don't like what i am saying.


free speech should be important to you guys hell your entire business is built on the foundation of that right to express yourself.

And what worse deliberately associating AS with porn form by directly linking with a thread.

That SEO consequences and you know it.

btw what you called pirated movies was a TV show

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamland_(Doctor_Who)

Robbie 06-04-2012 03:37 PM

03:30 PM
gideongallery
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Wow. This is sheer lunacy! Continuing to bump this thread! You really are suffering from some sort of mental illness that is compelling you to keep screaming "Look At Me"

I hope you are able to get some help.

papill0n 06-04-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18986136)
i said we not I was splitting that with a bunch of people.

you know that because you kept insulting me about how these partners were made up.

I only got a small fraction of that money.






so now your not even pretending that you are giving a backhanded call to action to try and get me fired

Why do you believe this doesn't represent trying to harm me or my business.




All because you don't like what i am saying.


free speech should be important to you guys hell your entire business is built on the foundation of that right to express yourself.

And what worse deliberately associating AS with porn form by directly linking with a thread.

That SEO consequences and you know it.

btw what you called pirated movies was a TV show

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamland_(Doctor_Who)

what a fucking egomaniac you are. stil waffling on like a stupid fuck :1orglaugh

dude im not threatening anyone but i am guaranteeing you that after you spending years of syaing how its ok to steal peoples shit that there are going to be people who fuck with you big time because of your absolutely fucked attitude towards peoples property

you cant honestly think youre going to spend years advocating what you do and it not have any repercussions ?

then again guys like you are intensely absorbed in your own little world of bullshit you rarely see the bigger picture

papill0n 06-04-2012 03:56 PM

and the idea that anyone would give the slightest fuck about you or your business is the single funniest thing anyone will read on gfy today

kane 06-04-2012 04:13 PM

In all seriousness Gideon why are you still here?

You have said yourself you don't market towards this industry and you have admitted that you have no clients in this industry.

Aside from a couple of people who occasionally might chime in and agree with one of your points most people here don't agree with, or don't like your, or in some case downright hate you. That animosity has boiled over in such a way that people are now attacking you and maybe even putting your job at risk and yet you are still here.

You are not selling us anything. Nor are you in this business. Why stay here and take the risks and/or abuse?

Are you really this hungry for attention?

It seems to me your time would be better spent on a board in mainstream or somewhere where you might actually gain something. All you have done here is cultivate an entire group of people who dislike you.

gideongallery 06-04-2012 04:37 PM

fine i am done with akira can you stop google bombing akira systems with a porn association.

you not just hurting me you hurting them too by creating a seo connection between porn and their company.

xenigo 06-04-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18985929)
Champagne? I'm not up to speed on that...but as I understood it: If a bottle of champagne is NOT made in France it is labeled "Sparkling wine" So you might be a little bit off on that one.

LOL exactly what I was going to say. I haven't seen any "sparking wine" product made outside of the Champagne region of France labeled as Champagne... ever. And I buy a lot of it.

L-Pink 06-04-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18986245)
fine i quit can you stop google bombing akira systems with a porn association.

you not just hurting me you hurting them too by creating a seo connection between porn and their company.

WHAT? How can someone hurt a free site? ....... WAIT? They haven't taken your valuable advise and started giving their content away for free? Surely you have preached the benefits of "free" to your employer!


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Fucking freetard asshole!

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xenigo 06-04-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18986217)
Are you really this hungry for attention?

He's trying to "sell" us on his warped ideology so that we'll reinforce his sad and pathetic justification for theft. He thinks that if he spends more time here, we'll eventually become converts for willful IP infringement and he'll be able to sleep better at night.

Then eventually we'll all see him as a "hero" of our business because, after all, IP was meant to be free... regardless of who created it.

But until we whole heartedly agree that everything ever created was meant to be stolen and resold for our own financial gain, he won't be satisfied.

He views himself as the IP Robin Hood. "Steal from the rich, and give to the poor..." Or politically as the IP Socialist... "Let's put economic inequality on a level playing field, by stealing from the innovators and giving to the economic losers..."

Whatever his view, I think this guy needs to be locked up and water boarded at Guantanamo Bay.

papill0n 06-04-2012 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18986257)
WHAT? How can someone hurt a free site? ....... WAIT? They haven't taken your valuable advise and started giving their content away for free? Surely you have preached the benefits of "free" to your employer!


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Fucking freetard asshole!

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:1orglaugh :thumbsup

signupdamnit 06-04-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18986245)
fine i am done with akira can you stop google bombing akira systems with a porn association.

you not just hurting me you hurting them too by creating a seo connection between porn and their company.

I saw the message before you edited it. It was as follows - minus the asterisk:

Quote:

fine i quit can you stop google bombing akira s*stems with a porn association.

you not just hurting me you hurting them too by creating a seo connection between porn and their company.
I was going to quote it so that Robbie would be able to see it. Gideongallery I don't have any desire to see you lose your employment but I'm thinking you might now have a little more empathy as to people losing their business or source of income. It doesn't feel very good, does it? Many of the people here hurt by the piracy which you advocate have done nothing wrong and have worked for years on their businesses in the same way. Maybe it would be good to at least apologize?


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