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Phoenix 06-06-2012 04:28 AM

I have asked these two to deliver enough popcorn for this thread
http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefon...27ak080510.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-06-2012 04:36 AM

Bump for Gideon "Fair Use" Gallery:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18988972)

Interesting, because a site owned by the same Aaron Jacques (whom owned and registered jacquesweb.com) was ordered forfeited by an Arbitration Panel in 2007, since Mr Jacques was using the Barbie children's toy trademark to redirect people to porn sites:

Complete text here: http://www.adrforum.com/domains/decisions/1024381.htm

To summarize, Gideon...er, Mr Jacques' defense (the owner of jacquesweb.com) was that "(Mattel?s) United States trademark registrations are irrelevant because Respondent is a Canadian resident. Respondent further argues that the BARBIE mark is generic."

Typical Gallbladder style to believe he can pick and choose which laws to follow, and the attitude that he can decide that other people's trademarks and intellectual property are generic and use them to profit from however he wishes. :error

The arbitration panel ruled against Aaron Jacques and stripped him of his domain since they felt that he acted in bad faith and abused the popular children's toy brand trademark to drive traffic to porn sites. :disgust

Great corporate citizen. :upsidedow

I can see why companies like Akira Systems would want to be disassociated with such a lowlife, if it turns out to indeed be the same person.

Gideon still hasn't quite given us a straight answer about that either...well, at least he is finally getting the attention from the industry that he has so desperately craved for years. :upsidedow

:2 cents:

ADG

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18988991)

If I were a GFY Mod, and GG = Aaron Jacques, I would pin this to Mr. Fair Use's (GideonGallery's) sig:

The (National Arbitration Forum) Panel finds that Respondent?s (Aaron Jacque's) use of Complainant?s BARBIE mark to divert Internet users to an adult-oriented website does not constitute a bona fide offering of goods or services under Policy ¶ 4(c)(i), nor a legitimate noncommercial or fair use under Policy ¶ 4(c)(iii).


Yup, Gideon sure is a real expert on Fair Use. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I hope he didn't get a patent/trademark/copyright for posting in bold and in CAPS to emphasize his points. :upsidedow :winkwink:

ADG

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTata (Post 18989007)
nice find ADG :winkwink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTata (Post 18989009)
We have an address match - it is the infamous gg :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18989014)
That post proves what we always suspected. The guy has no qualms stealing other people's property.

IMO his employers are well shot of him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18989019)
The more we dig the shittier it gets. This guy is a douche bag.

I need to get some sleep and focus on more positive things tomorrow... :)

ADG

CyberHustler 06-06-2012 04:39 AM

When keeping it real goes wrong...

Phoenix 06-06-2012 05:01 AM

Ha someone just made a small joke about Gideon.
Saying if Gideon was a bank robber, he would hang out a police station all day long telling anyone who would listen, how robbing banks is ok. A little bank robbery should be allowed he would tell the cops..lol

DWB 06-06-2012 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18988881)

Accusing someone of distributing kiddie porn is very serious.

So is theft of other people's property. :2 cents:

Barefootsies 06-06-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camtata

looks like our fair use aficionado is or was a child porn spammer:

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=140529

(envelope-sender <[email protected]>)
for <my email address>; 6 jun 2003 19:14:32 -0000
date: Sat, 07 jun 2003 09:35:34 gmt
from: Gomes fasikop <[email protected]>
to: My email address
message-id: <[email protected]>
subject: New lolitas sites !

Hi, dear drochers...
I found most hot and semi-legal site in world!

There are many lolitas photos never seen before
more than 30 nude childrens...
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18988479)
WTF? I'm amazed that anyone is defending him if that is indeed from GG's website. :disgust

ADG


DWB 06-06-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18983994)
right you didn't cut off the top part of the header in this message

that clearly proves it didn't come from my mail server(or my ip address or even my country) when you accused me of spamming kiddie porn.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=140529


you can't even do a competent job of framing me.

So... let me get this straight. You lost your domain to Mattel because you were using their BARBIE logo to redirect kids to porn sites, but you claim you have nothing to do with spamming lolita sites? :1orglaugh Whatever.

Mattel, Inc. v. Aaron Jacques

You are a piece of work. :2 cents:

Paul Markham 06-06-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery
right you didn't cut off the top part of the header in this message

that clearly proves it didn't come from my mail server(or my ip address or even my country) when you accused me of spamming kiddie porn.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=140529

GG if you want to blame someone, look in the mirror. You simply fucked with the wrong crowd for too long and got a kick out of it. If there are any more skeletons in your closet, be sure this lot will find them and expose you. We even have your home address.

pimpmaster9000 06-06-2012 07:31 AM

gideon logic...

buy brazzers membership, copy everything for 30$, set up own web site, "time-shift" "format-shift" everything to own website, claim "fair use", make $$, AND charge 50$ for DMCA processing :1orglaugh

thats like charging a whore 50$ for letting her suck your dick :1orglaugh

CamTata 06-06-2012 09:27 AM

waybackmachine shows redirect from lennybarbie.com to gideongallery.com :winkwink:

http://web.archive.org/web/200409251...nnybarbie.com/

gideongallery 06-06-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18989117)
So... let me get this straight. You lost your domain to Mattel because you were using their BARBIE logo to redirect kids to porn sites, but you claim you have nothing to do with spamming lolita sites? :1orglaugh Whatever.

Mattel, Inc. v. Aaron Jacques

You are a piece of work. :2 cents:

1. it was a domain dispute for lennybarbie.com not a logo (seriously stop twisting the facts)-- the name of a pornstar btw.
2. I did not claim it was generic i pointed to the unanimous 8-0 canadian supreme court decision against mattel explicitly ruling that use of the name barbie as a prenom/surnom (first or last name was not a violation of their trademark) and it fact a generic use of the term
http://www.sexypornstars.net/dispute/supremecourt.pdf
3. the lawyer misrepresented Renaissance Hotel Holdings, Inc. v. Renaissance Cochin, FA 932344 (Nat. Arb. Forum Apr. 23, 2007) which only justifies accepting a foreign registered trademark for consideration under another country to justify completely ignoring the supreme court decision when he should done exactly what the previous arbitrator did in the referring case (accept the american registration and determine validity by Canadian law)

4. and then claiming i didn't present any evidence(ie represent the porn star lenny barbie) to argue i was in default. btw if you ask around on this board you will find out that pornstar changed her name because of a dispute with mattel (they gave up i believe because they didn't know about the supreme court decision) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanny_Barby

Quote:

As Respondent has not provided any substantive arguments pertaining to the rights or legitimate interests prong of this analysis, Respondent has essentially defaulted on this issue. In view of this ?default,? the Panel accepts all reasonable allegations and inferences set forth in the Complaint regarding the confusing similarity issue as true.
Unfortunately because of the blanket immunity granted for "accidental" violations of the law that there is nothing i could do to get the domain back cost effectively.

uniquemkt 06-06-2012 09:42 AM

Never let the facts get int he way of a good lynching.

CamTata 06-06-2012 09:42 AM

from gideongallery.com Dec 15, 2004

"The Rules for Posting to Gideon Gallery.
You must own or have license to use the content provided in your galleries. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PUBLIC DOMAIN ADULT CONTENT."

appears gideon"fair use"gallery has undergone a dramatic transformation :1orglaugh

NewNick 06-06-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18989713)

3. the lawyer misrepresented Renaissance Hotel



Unfortunately because of the blanket immunity granted for "accidental" violations of the law that there is nothing i could do to get the domain back cost effectively.


So you were fucked by the lawyer ?

I think they call that the Shawshank defense.....

:)

L-Pink 06-06-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18989713)
1.

What about the cp spam? And don't say it was altered. The post about it was months before you even joined gfy and was received by a number of people that also commented in the original thread.

Sick fuck!

.

gideongallery 06-06-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18989750)
What about the cp spam? And don't say it was altered. The post about it was months before you even joined gfy and was received by a number of people that also commented in the original thread.

Sick fuck!

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18988908)
So jacquesweb.com (the part you omitted) is not your website?



Baad me milte hain,

ADG

do neither of you guys understand the difference between the header information which tells you where the message came from

and the reply to address that you get to manually fill in with whatever you want.

why do you think i posted the header information that he specifically cut off when he was making the bogus claim.

Robbie 06-06-2012 10:30 AM

Amazing that gideongallery keeps bumping this thread as himself and uniquemkt

If he had just left everything alone this would have all died down. Instead he is bringing MORE of his shady life out in the open by continuing to piss people off.

I will try to help you ONE more time gideongallery. Just stop posting. Go away and live your shitty life. Be happy and enjoy life. Everytime you post here you just bring yourself one step closer to ruin because of your own actions and words over the last few years.

L-Pink 06-06-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18989849)

why do you think i posted the header information that he specifically cut off when he was making the bogus claim.

Let me get this right ... He posted a thread about cp spam months before you even joined gfy, making a bogus claim against someone that at the time wasn't even here? Have I got that right or are you still just full of shit?

.

L-Pink 06-06-2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18989859)
Let me get this right ... He posted a thread about cp spam months before you even joined gfy, making a bogus claim against someone that at the time wasn't even here? Have I got that right or are you still just full of shit?

.

06-06-2003

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=140529

gideon join date Aug 2003


So he altered this before you even joined just to frame you? And other guys in the thread got the same spam?

.

beerptrol 06-06-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18989865)
06-06-2003

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=140529

gideon join date Aug 2003


So he altered this before you even joined just to frame you? And other guys in the thread got the same spam?

.

he out time shifted gideon by two months

Robbie 06-06-2012 11:00 AM

Robbie - You know our rules on these types of things. DO NOT POST IT HERE!

gideongallery 06-06-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18989859)
Let me get this right ... He posted a thread about cp spam months before you even joined gfy, making a bogus claim against someone that at the time wasn't even here? Have I got that right or are you still just full of shit?

.




someone spoofed my domain address in the reply to address
tala here posted the complete header which included the information that proved that fact
tala decide to deliberately cut off the header proved the spoofing when he posted it here

don't you understand how to read an email header.

Dirty D 06-06-2012 11:02 AM

LOL at the fool Gideon.

Fucking with peoples income for fun is lame, perhaps it is time that someone fucked with your income.

Fuck You and your piracy.

Robbie 06-06-2012 11:08 AM

Wow. STILL bumping his own demise:

Today, 11:02 AM
gideongallery
This message is hidden because gideongallery is on your ignore list.

PiracyPitbull 06-06-2012 12:03 PM

A thread that delivers :thumbsup

L-Pink 06-06-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18989923)
someone spoofed my domain address

yea, yea ..... I'm sure that's EXACTLY what happened.

.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-06-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18989923)

someone spoofed my domain address in the reply to address

:1orglaugh

Seems like you are always the victim, and you think that anyone that disagrees with you is persecuting poor GideonGallery.

Like when you got the slap down for using the Barbie children's toy trademark to trick people and redirect them to other porn sites, which you now blame on your lawyer.


You lost that case on Fair Use grounds, but since you still like to think of yourself as Mr Fair Use, please cite the Fair Use cases which you have actually won, because I couldn't find any (I could only find a Fair Use case which you clearly LOST)?

It appears that since you can't make a living as a legitimate webmaster, you cockroach around at the dark edges of the net trying to steal whatever crumbs you can, and your posts are just clumsy contrived rationalizations for your fraudulent activities. :2 cents: :disgust

ADG

bean-aid 06-06-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18988542)
http://i.qkme.me/eno.jpg

I believe that you meant to say, "Beaner enjoys talking in the third person... carry on." :fart

ADG

Yes, it was. Was about to edit it and thought to myself... I don't even care if it's GG or not so I walked away.

kane 06-06-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18990307)
:1orglaugh

Seems like you are always the victim, and you think that anyone that disagrees with you is persecuting poor GideonGallery.

Like when you got the slap down for using the Barbie children's toy trademark to trick people and redirect them to other porn sites, which you now blame on your lawyer.


You lost that case on Fair Use grounds, but since you still like to think of yourself as Mr Fair Use, please cite the Fair Use cases which you have actually won, because I couldn't find any (I could only find a Fair Use case which you clearly LOST)?

It appears that since you can't make a living as a legitimate webmaster, you cockroach around at the dark edges of the net trying to steal whatever crumbs you can, and your posts are just clumsy contrived rationalizations for your fraudulent activities. :2 cents: :disgust

ADG

I was going to suggest you check out the video he had removed from youtube for copyright violations. . . but it appears he has closed his youtube account. https://youtube.com/user/MrAaronjacques

Robbie 06-06-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18990362)
I was going to suggest you check out the video he had removed from youtube for copyright violations. . . but it appears he has closed his youtube account. https://youtube.com/user/MrAaronjacques

If he were smart he would close ALL of his accounts online (especially his GFY account)

He has put HIMSELF in a world of shit. All of his own doing, and his own words.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-06-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18990362)

I was going to suggest you check out the video he had removed from youtube for copyright violations. . . but it appears he has closed his youtube account. https://youtube.com/user/MrAaronjacques

Go ahead and please summarize the video for us, since it is next to impossible to get any straight answers from Gideon the Dissembler.

Aaron Jacques' Twitter, is chock full of (bad) advice and nonsense about Fair Use, such as this gem, "actually it because itunes "doesn't understand" fair use". :1orglaugh

ADG

gideongallery 06-06-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18990307)



Like when you got the slap down for using the Barbie children's toy trademark to trick people and redirect them to other porn sites



ADG

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=12974204#post12974204

you recognized it as trademark abuse back here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12974204)
In other news, the People's Republic of China announced that it too is suing porn actress China Barbie, stating that her use of China as a first name is a bad faith attempt to profit from the use of a nation opposed to porn.

However, the People's Republic of China did agree to drop their suit if China Barbie changes her name to Taiwan Barbie...

ADG



Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 12974147)
WTF? Mattel is lucky they never sued Barbie Benton - Hef would have defended her on free speech grounds:

http://www.jimmyrabbitt.com/sekingpellett9.jpg

Who's next? Lanny Barbie... :helpme

ADG


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 12981304)

Exactly.... I already made a huge profit just from buying the domain and redirecting it to Lanie's site with my linking code !

I made the most when she was on the cover of Penthouse !

I fu*ked her... so what else could I want from a the word "Barbie" :thumbsup


btw lenny barbie was an alternative name of the porn star you were complaining about in that china barbie thread

What i was doing with it was exactly the same thing that dugmor was doing.

please stop claiming i was sending kids to porn sites nothing could be farther from the truth.

kane 06-06-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 18990396)
Go ahead and please summarize the video for us, since it is next to impossible to get any straight answers from Gideon the Dissembler.

Aaron Jacques' Twitter, is chock full of (bad) advice and nonsense about Fair Use, such as this gem, "actually it because itunes "doesn't understand" fair use". :1orglaugh

ADG

To be honest I never saw it. I saw he had posted it and when I went to watch it there was a message that it had been taken down due to copyright violation. Youtube took it down right away.

From what I understand he took the entire 8 minute opening bit from the Daily Show where they made fun of SOPA and made a case for fair use and added commentary showing how much fair use was in their bit.

Robbie 06-06-2012 04:47 PM

Today, 04:42 PM
gideongallery
This message is hidden because gideongallery is on your ignore list.

You can't stop bumping this thread can you? lol
I've never seen anyone as stupid in my entire life.

Every time you bump the thread Aaron Jacques...you just bring more trouble to yourself. And more of your enemies are icq'ing and pm'ing to get all your information from all the people who now have it.

You really are desperate for attention aren't you? You need mental help.

Robbie 06-06-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 18990700)
I saw he had posted it and when I went to watch it there was a message that it had been taken down due to copyright violation. Youtube took it down right away.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So the dumb fucking pro-pirate Aaron Jacques comes on a PORN board and tries to prove that he can steal shit and call it "fair use" and YouTube yanks it down immediately for copyright violations!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-06-2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18990717)

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So the dumb fucking pro-pirate Aaron Jacques comes on a PORN board and tries to prove that he can steal shit and call it "fair use" and YouTube yanks it down immediately for copyright violations!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In the warped mind of GG, filled as it is with twisted logic about what he is or is not entitled to profit off of however he wishes, he actually believes he won and made his argument by having YouTube shitcan his video. :1orglaugh

I had not paid much attention to GG's mostly incoherent borderline schizo ramblings before, but reading a few of them in detail (and then comparing them to reality), helped confirm my initial suspicions about him.

ADG

Half man, Half Amazing 06-06-2012 08:28 PM

Remember according to GG the mere fact that ANY site allows comments on an upload puts it under "fair use".

So in his world, you can upload the ENTIRE Avengers movie to Youtube, just put "I liked this movie" as a comment and BAM! according to GG that's fair use.

Aaron...be sure to get those toilets at @k1r@ really clean you fucking toilet bug.

Robbie 06-06-2012 09:14 PM

You have to realize that to a big time pornographer like Aaron Jacques he thinks he can do anything.

I guess YouTube bitch slapped him back to reality.

Just like he claimed to be a big shot and making a fortune with his "give it all away free" theories....

Then he got bitch slapped by reality again and we found out he's just an employee at a company. And he can't even make a web page. And he pretty much doesn't understand how the internet works...it took him almost 3 days of us hot linking images off his server for him to figure out he didn't have an index page on jacquesweb.com And then it took him another 24 hours to figure out how to put up an .htaccess file.

You know...stuff that any of us would have figured out within 5 seconds (IF we ever did anything dumb like leave a site wide open as he did)

I've worked with a lot of programmers. Aaron Jacques is NOT a programmer or anything else technical. If you guys had seen the insides of the folders on jacquesweb.com you would have laughed your asses off at all of his failed attempts and complete ineptitude of anything web related.

bean-aid 06-06-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18991009)
You have to realize that to a big time pornographer like Aaron Jacques he thinks he can do anything.

I guess YouTube bitch slapped him back to reality.

Just like he claimed to be a big shot and making a fortune with his "give it all away free" theories....

Then he got bitch slapped by reality again and we found out he's just an employee at a company. And he can't even make a web page. And he pretty much doesn't understand how the internet works...it took him almost 3 days of us hot linking images off his server for him to figure out he didn't have an index page on jacquesweb.com And then it took him another 24 hours to figure out how to put up an .htaccess file.

You know...stuff that any of us would have figured out within 5 seconds (IF we ever did anything dumb like leave a site wide open as he did)

I've worked with a lot of programmers. Aaron Jacques is NOT a programmer or anything else technical. If you guys had seen the insides of the folders on jacquesweb.com you would have laughed your asses off at all of his failed attempts and complete ineptitude of anything web related.

case solved? he really sucks at everything he does... well that and trolllolllolll

Robbie 06-06-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 18991014)
case solved? he really sucks at everything he does... well that and trolllolllolll

That's pretty much the cliff notes on gideongallery Aaron Jacques big time pornographer :1orglaugh

Robbie 06-07-2012 12:50 AM

Hah-hah. gideon Aaron Jacques gallery claims to be a Microsoft developer at Akira.

He's probably the janitor. Here he is asking a question in 2008 about something he is SUPPOSED to be employed as an expert at and developer (at least that's the excuse he gave when I busted him for using Front Page and Expression and STILL not being able to make a webpage) :
http://social.expression.microsoft.c...3-7acc0b1cdf1b

He wanted to know how to use a WYSIWYG to make an animated gif show up on a web page like the "ones you see on tv" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He is one television watching, piracy loving, pornography mogul motherfucker! lol

seeric 06-07-2012 07:45 AM

hi everyone. hows it going?

Paul Markham 06-07-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18991238)
Hah-hah. gideon Aaron Jacques gallery claims to be a Microsoft developer at Akira.

He's probably the janitor. Here he is asking a question in 2008 about something he is SUPPOSED to be employed as an expert at and developer (at least that's the excuse he gave when I busted him for using Front Page and Expression and STILL not being able to make a webpage) :
http://social.expression.microsoft.c...3-7acc0b1cdf1b

He wanted to know how to use a WYSIWYG to make an animated gif show up on a web page like the "ones you see on tv" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He is one television watching, piracy loving, pornography mogul motherfucker! lol

The more we dig, the more we find. :thumbsup

Dirty D 06-07-2012 09:53 AM

Trolls and Haters never have any business to discuss.

Unfortunately, they have grown to a majority on this forum.

Why 06-07-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18985929)
Champagne? I'm not up to speed on that...but as I understood it: If a bottle of champagne is NOT made in France it is labeled "Sparkling wine" So you might be a little bit off on that one.

no i know my facts, you should learn about these things... there are reasons why US copyrights are ignored.

from wikipedia:
Quote:

The United States bans the use from all new U.S.-produced wines.[3] Only those that had approval to use the term on labels before 2006 may continue to use it and only when it is accompanied by the wine's actual origin (e.g., "California").[3] The majority of U.S.-produced sparkling wines do not use the term champagne on their labels [15] and some states, such as Oregon,[16] ban producers in their states from using the term.
thus, US manufacturers that were labeling their sparking wine as "champagne" are still allowed to, as long as they list their location.

Robbie 06-07-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why (Post 18991965)
no i know my facts, you should learn about these things... there are reasons why US copyrights are ignored.

from wikipedia:

thus, US manufacturers that were labeling their sparking wine as "champagne" are still allowed to, as long as they list their location.

I didn't look it up. All I know is what I see at the actual real-life liquor store when I go to buy champagne at New Years Eve. NONE of them say Champagne except French ones.

If you'd like to beat a dead horse I guess you could research it and find us one company and one brand that calls itself champagne that isn't from France. Knock yourself out.

As for "there are reasons US copyrights are ignored" WTF does that mean? And why should I "learn about these things" These "things" being champagne. lol I already TOLD you that I've never seen a bottle of champagne from anywhere but France. All the rest are labeled "sparkling wine"
Why should I need to "learn about these things"?

I'm still gonna buy Dom or PJ at New Years. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Just Alex 06-07-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18992177)
I didn't look it up. All I know is what I see at the actual real-life liquor store when I go to buy champagne at New Years Eve. NONE of them say Champagne except French ones.

If you'd like to beat a dead horse I guess you could research it and find us one company and one brand that calls itself champagne that isn't from France. Knock yourself out.

As for "there are reasons US copyrights are ignored" WTF does that mean? And why should I "learn about these things" These "things" being champagne. lol I already TOLD you that I've never seen a bottle of champagne from anywhere but France. All the rest are labeled "sparkling wine"
Why should I need to "learn about these things"?

I'm still gonna buy Dom or PJ at New Years. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Robbie strikes again. Every college kid knows Cook's or Corbel champagne.
Just use google images for those two.


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