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Konda 06-02-2012 07:03 PM

This law is about "tracking cookies", mainly about third party cookies like tracking user behaviour over various networks etc. Like Google and FB and the big ad agencies do to show targeted ads to users.
You are still allowed to use cookies for your site for log-in forms and shopping carts etc.

For sponsors and tracking sales nothing will change. All of them track fine without cookies. The majority also uses IP tracking + parse along the ref code to the join form. So you don't have to worry about this.

adultmobile 06-03-2012 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18983377)
This law is about "tracking cookies", mainly about third party cookies like tracking user behaviour over various networks etc. Like Google and FB and the big ad agencies do to show targeted ads to users.
You are still allowed to use cookies for your site for log-in forms and shopping carts etc.

For sponsors and tracking sales nothing will change. All of them track fine without cookies. The majority also uses IP tracking + parse along the ref code to the join form. So you don't have to worry about this.

Here we got the optimist. Common sense things are allowed--- only if user click yes to a popup window, theorically for each frame and banner separately too - very user friendly? Also let's track affiliates without cookies as you said, only custom host domains would work really (such as affiliate001.site.com, affiliate002.site.com - if he signup that same landing, not if he return other day), we'll see.

globofun 06-03-2012 05:32 AM

http://headblitz.com/wp-content/uplo...d-cup-2010.jpg

Is it in North Holland and South Holland, or in the Netherlands?

martinsc 06-03-2012 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by barcodes (Post 18980387)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Konda 06-03-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 18983651)
Here we got the optimist. Common sense things are allowed--- only if user click yes to a popup window, theorically for each frame and banner separately too - very user friendly? Also let's track affiliates without cookies as you said, only custom host domains would work really (such as affiliate001.site.com, affiliate002.site.com - if he signup that same landing, not if he return other day), we'll see.

You don't need cookies to track affiliate traffic/sales.
Most sponsors have at least two other methods to track the traffic and credit sales to the affiliates (IP tracking and parsing along the ref code), so cookies are really not needed.

Your affiliate links usually look like this: http://secure.paysite.com/track/YourNatsCode/
When a surfer clicks on it his IP will be logged in the database and he will be forwarded to http://www.paysite.com/?nats=YourNatsCode
Then the join links on the paysite also parse along YourNatsCode to the join page.
So when the user joins, the system knows to which affiliate to credit the sale. Either by the parsed along nats code, or by the IP address. And most use server side sessions as well.

You shouldn't worry too much about surfers that do no join right away. There is a huge chance that if they come back a few days later they have already clicked another affiliate link, so you wouldn't get credit for the sale anymore anyway. In addition the majority of the webmaster programs have a hardcoded inhouse linkcode on the warning page, so if the user would get back to the site by typing in the site url he wouldn't be credited to you anyway.

So no, this is not going to change anything.

adultmobile 06-03-2012 01:16 PM

Please you two discuss as you say opposite things (and Konrad developed some my stuff):

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 18980602)
By IP in a database won't work because alot of ISPs share one ip across several users. You'd have to fingerprint something like ip+user agent+anything else you can find out, store that and then you're probably breaking some other privacy laws...

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Originally Posted by Konda (Post 18983827)
You don't need cookies to track affiliate traffic/sales.
Most sponsors have at least two other methods to track the traffic and credit sales to the affiliates (IP tracking and parsing along the ref code), so cookies are really not needed.


Konda 06-03-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 18984388)
Please you two discuss as you say opposite things (and Konrad developed some my stuff):

The chance that a user changes IP during the signup process is very small. The chance that someone with the same IP would visit during the signup proces is impossible (an IP is only assigned to one customer at the time).

Only if the surfer does not signup directly and comes back a day or more later you would lose the sale, but in most cases you would have lost him anyway (see my post above). Also the amount of people that do not join directly, and then join within the next week(s) is really really small. This will not have any effect on 99% of the affiliates.

pornmasta 06-03-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 18980118)
I guess surfers are about to find out just how much those "free websites" rely on ads when webmasters make their scripts return a blank page unless the surfer accepts cookies.

exactly, this is a stupid law

pornmasta 06-03-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18981656)
IE 10 blocking

IE9 is full of bugs, it is the worst version so far.
I can't even freeze a panel with a wrong mouse move

grumpy 06-04-2012 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by globofun (Post 18983779)
http://headblitz.com/wp-content/uplo...d-cup-2010.jpg

Is it in North Holland and South Holland, or in the Netherlands?

google is your friend. Its the Netherlands.

Inter-Sex 06-04-2012 05:28 AM

51 cookies:)


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