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ilnjscb 06-27-2012 03:52 PM

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Vjo 06-27-2012 04:11 PM

The next post is unbelievable on that board if you translate it. They are not happy.

Russians make me nervous lol Sig down :)

They arent real happy Ferro UL a screencap that's for sure.

lddd 06-27-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027792)
The file locker industry is huge and many of the uploaders stand to lose bucket loads of money as their affiliate schemes crumble.

In general you´re right but still your efforts are kind a weak.

People not paying for your content won´t pay in future too. You think you can force them like this by blowing up some file sharing sites but you´re totally wrong man.

If there will be no "cyberlocker" anymore where uploaders are paid for new commissions they would simply find any dmca ignoring off-shore hoster to host own websites on and upload to other "cyberlockers" (without affiliate systems) and moneytize your ripped content in a different way.

So what ever they will keep ripping your content and publishing and make money with it, actually people allready doing so and making even far more money than from any hosters affiliate system.

The problem starts far more earlier where people trigger a search at Google for something they don´t wont to pay for. "keyword + download + free" So, better try getting a job as engineer in Mountain View and develop some better algorithm that will sort out things like this from their indexes quicker.

Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027887)
what an idiot.

Oh look. Our resident proponent of piracy has decided to chime in. What nuggets of ignorance do you have for us today, LDDD? :321GFY

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027944)
Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

Ahh yes, your infallible "instead of doing something, you should do nothing!" strategy.

There's only one side that strategy benefits, and that's the pirates.

Go fuck yourself, pirating asshole.

georgeyw 06-27-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027944)
In general you´re right but still your efforts are kind a weak.

People not paying for your content won´t pay in future too. You think you can force them like this by blowing up some file sharing sites but you´re totally wrong man.

If there will be no "cyberlocker" anymore where uploaders are paid for new commissions they would simply find any dmca ignoring off-shore hoster to host own websites on and upload to other "cyberlockers" (without affiliate systems) and moneytize your ripped content in a different way.

So what ever they will keep ripping your content and publishing and make money with it, actually people allready doing so and making even far more money than from any hosters affiliate system.

The problem starts far more earlier where people trigger a search at Google for something they don´t wont to pay for. "keyword + download + free" So, better try getting a job as engineer in Mountain View and develop some better algorithm that will sort out things like this from their indexes quicker.

Maybe the best way for your digital goods not to get ripped and leaving money floating into other hands than yours would be selling them in a local store and not make use of the internet...

Off shore is not a possibility when they have no means of PAYING for it :2 cents:

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19027055)

1-402-935-2000 (Customer Service, Paypal Receptionist) Press 2 to go to reception.
1-402-935-2238 (Tiffany Zaporowski, Strategic Risk Operations)
1-402-935-2007 (A very annoyed project manager who I have called)

Tiffany has her voice mail on, gave her a detailed message, and also told them all affiliation with them would be closed cq terminated.
The annoyed project manager his number is behind various menu`s, consider that a waste of time.

Still, Tiffany should be getting real irritated by now. I advice anyone to take a moment, a minute or two to inform her.

Vjo 06-27-2012 04:31 PM

I am only MEDIA! Neutral! No horse in race! :)

Next post after the one AK posted and translated: (Google Translate)

"Ping can not do anything. This must be hundreds of thousands of webmasters, instead of a couple of thousands reading this topic.

Regarding Adultking - a piece of an idiot, just no words. Hopefully soon I will plant a minimum of 5 years for this (downloading cp (<-- those two words only EDITED to cp) ) - especially since he is not from the CIS / Asia / Africa and from Australia.

Affected owners of the background, reading this topic nastoyalno recommend to state in all possible instances, including PayPal on its activities with the whole description (ip, passwords, secret addresses, emails, dates and so on)."

lddd 06-27-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19027961)
Off shore is not a possibility when they have no means of PAYING for it :2 cents:

You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19027450)

I find it funny how they worded that. "He's planning to destroy all file lockers that have porn content"

It doesn't seem like they understand our agenda is not to stop porn... it's to stop piracy.

xenigo 06-27-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027970)
You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

Your words are exactly the same words I read on the piracy forums. They're exactly the same words I see on the anti-PIPA and anti-SOPA and anti-CISPA groups on Facebook. They're exactly the same words that I see bantered about on the YouTube channels on these topics.

The resounding message is "You can't make any money, because the business model has changed. You need to do something different now, cause we' stealing all yo' shit... and sellin' it for ourselves."

Another popular theme on the same message is "All the companies that create this content are GREEDY. They're GREEDY FILTHY PORN PRODUCING pigs who abuse women, dehumanize them, and desecrate them... all for their filthy profits. So yes, they deserve to have all of their content uploaded to piracy sites."

Doesn't work that way. Media production companies are not going to stop the pursuit of wrongdoers because a bunch of hyenas decide they want to steal everything.

idolbucks 06-27-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 19027044)
How about google bombing paypal to lead to this :)

This x million

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georgeyw 06-27-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddd (Post 19027970)
You see you not even able to read, and you want to fight against pirates, lol. Guess they are a way smarter than you will ever be.

Also i am not a pirate! Just because i am telling some facts don´t makes me a content ripper. Actually i was trying to help and bringing some ideas in, but if you think fucking some file sharing sites and you´re done keep on going...

I never said that "doing nothing" is the best strategy, simply listen or stfu.

Please tell me what I 'not even able to read'.

People have searched for 'free' + whatever since day dot. If you do not understand that the FIRST port of call for 99.99999% of people is the FREE alternative, well then you are a complete and utter moron.

Reducing the ease in being able to download for FREE is what causes sales to increase due to the fact they are unable to find what they desire for free.

However I fear your stupidity knows no bounds and what I have typed above will whistle as it leaves your ears..

xenigo 06-27-2012 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19028004)
People have searched for 'free' + whatever since day dot. If you do not understand that the FIRST port of call for 99.99999% of people is the FREE alternative, well then you are a complete and utter moron.

Reducing the ease in being able to download for FREE is what causes sales to increase due to the fact they are unable to find what they desire for free.

Exactly. Well put. Nobody is going to pay for something they don't have to pay for.

By LDDD's argument, if your content was good enough to pay for... people would pay for it either way. Wrong, LDDD. That's not the way the world works.

raymor 06-27-2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19027312)
Looking at the reports about Megaupload in the mainstream media it seems "file-sharing site" is the most common term used.

Or "pirate file sharing sites" or "ilegal file sharing sites" or even "child porn sharing sites".


Not "file hosts" - host have DMCA protection, so don't encourage people to thonk of them as hosts. Instead, use terms like "pirate" or "illegal" to specify exactly who you are going after - not dropbox, but "illegal pirate sites."

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 05:13 PM

If you want to spice up the fight, post this to some famous Christian Facebook pages, and ask for their help. I am pretty sure they will be able to crucify Paypal, knowing their fight lust for blood when God`s name is brought in shame. If you need a army of fighters, go get the Christians on your side, as Paypal claims to be God obedient and live by the bible. :)

Facebook and paypal go hand in hand.... why not use this to your advantage?
You`ll be able to get a lot of shares/likes when you market this right.

Tjeezers 06-27-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19027687)
Are you sure that your goal is to "shut all File Lockers" down?

I believe that there are some legitimate and legal uses for File Lockers, so you should be careful that you do not unknowingly alienate legitimate users of FL sites, and risk having them push back, and even possibly align with the illegal users of the FL sites.
ADG

show me one example of a legit user please, and tell me how he will group up with illegal users cause his legal business is killed by those same illegal users.

And if not, just post a picture or something.......

19teenporn 06-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19028026)
If you want to spice up the fight, post this to some famous Christian Facebook pages, and ask for their help. I am pretty sure they will be able to crucify Paypal, knowing their fight lust for blood when God`s name is brought in shame. If you need a army of fighters, go get the Christians on your side, as Paypal claims to be God obedient and live by the bible. :)

Facebook and paypal go hand in hand.... why not use this to your advantage?
You`ll be able to get a lot of shares/likes when you market this right.

That would be great!

They would crucify paypal and filelockers!
Here's a bump for action...

AdultKing 06-27-2012 09:10 PM

Today I fielded a call from Adrian Christie of Paypal Australia who contacted me after hearing from a journalist in Australia.

He assured me that Paypal would investigate every instance on the http://coldcopy.com.au website and would shut down sites in violation

However he did not seem to get the fact that these sites are so uncontrollable in what can be uploaded and shared that even if there is no violation today, there could be tomorrow.

File Sharing sites need to be added to the list of sites that Paypal prohibit in their AUP.

He indicated he might provide a formal response and if he does I will post it to the website.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19027967)
I am only MEDIA! Neutral! No horse in race! :)

Next post after the one AK posted and translated: (Google Translate)

"Ping can not do anything. This must be hundreds of thousands of webmasters, instead of a couple of thousands reading this topic.

Regarding Adultking - a piece of an idiot, just no words. Hopefully soon I will plant a minimum of 5 years for this (downloading cp (<-- those two words only EDITED to cp) ) - especially since he is not from the CIS / Asia / Africa and from Australia.

Affected owners of the background, reading this topic nastoyalno recommend to state in all possible instances, including PayPal on its activities with the whole description (ip, passwords, secret addresses, emails, dates and so on)."

While I understand you are quoting from that Russian forum, I'd like to make it clear that I have not downloaded ANY files from these sites, I have only pasted screenshots of the links to these files next to Paypal logos.

For all I know the files contain legal porn with misleading link names, however that's not the point, the point is the mere connotation that these files contain illegal material is enough to raise alarm bells and make them unacceptable for any file locker to host.

Robbie 06-27-2012 09:23 PM

Just wrote PayPal from inside my account and asked why they are processing for pirate and illegal content sites. I gave them a link to your site and also the CNN IReport I did a few months ago: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-721326

Also just had Claudia Marie tweet it out to her followers as well asking them to contact Paypal and demand an explanation. :)

AdultKing 06-27-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19028278)
Just wrote PayPal from inside my account and asked why they are processing for pirate and illegal content sites. I gave them a link to your site and also the CNN IReport I did a few months ago: http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-721326

Also just had Claudia Marie tweet it out to her followers as well asking them to contact Paypal and demand an explanation. :)

Thanks Robbie, much appreciated.

johnnyloadproductions 06-27-2012 09:52 PM

If this is going to be effective someone is going to have to make a very lengthy and very detailed and intelligently written report on all aspects of filehosts.

Otherwise this just sounds fussy.

AdultKing I contacted you through ICQ, I'd like to talk, please get a hold of me.

AdultKing 06-27-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19028289)
If this is going to be effective someone is going to have to make a very lengthy and very detailed and intelligently written report on all aspects of filehosts.

Otherwise this just sounds fussy.

AdultKing I contacted you through ICQ, I'd like to talk, please get a hold of me.

Im on ICQ now. Sorry, timezones mean sometimes Im not around.

dgraves 06-27-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19027450)
Getting interesting.

http://i45.tinypic.com/wajz9x.jpg

You now have a fan club AK and many lurkers here.

It's funny to see these guys panic...

It's impressive when you see a case of "the pen is mightier than the sword".

Marlinskiy 06-27-2012 11:42 PM

Ive found some files
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Voland 13 06-28-2012 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 19027046)
once Visa and MC ban filelockers the next thing they ban is porn :2 cents:

PayPal is better target

that's not right my friend,

Adult is too big client for them to lose. The biggest sites all over the internet is adult ones..

AdultKing this conversion are pretty consistant hit me up if you would like to chat details of how we can help you with your war :pimp We are in!

AdultKing 06-28-2012 01:31 AM

Anyone who wants to discuss this issue with me please contact me on ICQ 1905100

Thanks for the constructive replies everyone.

Phoenix 06-28-2012 02:33 AM

nice stuff Adult King...keep up the good fight.

AdultKing 06-28-2012 03:40 AM

I have four new sites going up (all good keyword .coms) , I wont publish the domains here until they are ready to go.

If you want to know the domains and I have trust in you then ICQ me and i'll fill you in.

Wordpress is installed and theme designed for each site. All I need now is content.

The three sites are (1) stopping file lockers (2) stopping file sharing sites (3) stopping cyberlockers (4) stopping file hosts

I would like to have professionally written content produced from mediapiston.com and each article costs $15 for around 500 words.

If people would like to contribute to the costs of having these articles written, or if anyone wants to write authoritative articles themselves then please get in touch with me.

I need articles which explain to the general public what these sites are, why they are a scourge to content production, why they are havens for illegal content, how they profit from premium memberships and how they pay and reward uploaders.

Vjo 06-28-2012 03:46 AM

Looks like AK has been banned on WJ for posting off topic or at least had your recent posts removed. What you are posting is totally the topic.

Seems the vast majority of affil wms on WJ are out of the US by their writing styles.

Alexa says for Extabit.com:

Traffic Rank World wide: 988
US Only Traffic Rank: 1810
US % of traffic: 10%

Majority of visitors 18-24, Male, Middle eastern, No children, At home.

So as the one guy said.. how many affil sales are from the US? I suppose with a high traffic rank of 988, 10% of visitors from the US could still buy quite a few memberships.

AdultKing 06-28-2012 03:51 AM

I have just ordered these articles from mediapiston.com


File Lockers: Havens for illegal and copyright content.
File Sharing: The use of file sharing sites to spread illegal content
File Hosts: How file hosts disseminate illegal content
Cyber Lockers: What is a cyber locker.

While I am quite capable of paying for thousands of dollars of content if necessary, I would appreciate it if people would offer to chip in or even write articles themselves to contribute to these new sites I posted above.

Part of the strategy is to educate, the other part is to force Paypal, Mastercard, Visa to stop allowing these sites to profit from their trade.

AdultKing 06-28-2012 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 19028524)

So as the one guy said.. how many affil sales are from the US? I suppose with a high traffic rank of 988, 10% of visitors from the US could still buy quite a few memberships.

One site which I wont name but have copies of an income spreadsheet from did just over $300k through Paypal in just one month.

Once the person who supplied me with this leaves his employment I will publish it.

Vjo 06-28-2012 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19028527)
One site which I wont name but have copies of an income spreadsheet from did just over $300k through Paypal in just one month.

Once the person who supplied me with this leaves his employment I will publish it.

Ok Thanks. The activity in that thread also indicates a huge affiliate base whether in the US or not.

Also seems Paypal is their only funding along with Webmoney which does not allow US webmasters.

Vjo 06-28-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19028525)
Part of the strategy is to educate.

Well you educated me. I now know where 90% of the affils around here went! There are a hundred plus UL/DL progs to choose from in this section: File Hosts Official Support

Everyone (affil) is uploading like no tomorrow. No doubt it is a profitable model.

But then stealing merchandise from store A and selling it for 10% at store B is also a profitable model. Unbelievable.

Maybe as an affil I am on the wrong board :Oh crap There are a LOT of file hosts that is for sure.

Good luck. Seems you are gonna need it.

AdultKing 06-28-2012 07:13 AM

No writers in the house then ?

Vjo 06-28-2012 08:20 AM

Otoh looks like the entire "industry" is one big clusterfuck. No honor among thieves? LOL

First of all the board monitor Lifetalk (see cap below) seems like a total dick. Bans everyone and MOCKS the members in the last post when File Jungle Greg (see cap below) turns out to be a scam after 4 months.

Looks like 1/4 of the members over there are banned.

last 2 posts of 4 month thread:

http://i47.tinypic.com/30didd3.jpg

So I looked into the above thread from this prog: File Jungle

File Jungle Greg starts promoting his prog in Aug. By Jan he is banned and has half the board on his shit after they spent 4 months setting up the prog. "FileJungle-Greg Banned"

Plus all these other progs like file jungle, file serve, ect ect (see cap above) are also are shady.

Talk about building a business on sand castles.

Sounds like the only ones making sure, long lasting money are.. nobody but maybe the board op Lifetalk!

And what is with all the "like" bs. How lame.

Anyhow not impressed. If the guy paying you is an obvious crook expect to get fucked eventually.

Also File Jungle Greg in Aug said you must talk to him like your mother (first post) OR you get ignored.

TONS of attitude. What a SHIT run, back alley industry

AdultKing 06-28-2012 08:32 AM

I have just launched a new anti file locker site

http://stopfilelockers.com

More to come.

Axeman 06-28-2012 08:41 AM

Keep up the great work AK!


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