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BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19070684)
But there is no difference in reality

If the US had similar laws to canada there would not be near the amount of guns being smuggled in.

Rochard 07-20-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070258)
its not the guns! normal people do not do this! if its not guns it will be explosives or some other device. you want to ban explosives as well? oh wait their already illegal :1orglaugh

No, it's the guns. We hand out guns to anyone who wants one and this includes the people that are not normal too.

No, if you outlaw guns it will not be something else. People use guns because it requires no prep time, it's quick, easy, and nearly impossible to stop.

And don't give me no bullshit about how we need guns to protect ourselves. No one pulled a gun last night to stop this guy, and even if they did it would have been too late. Ever notice how when this kind of stuff goes down there is never someone with a concealed weapon who takes action?

We hand out guns to nearly anyone. A friend of mine just got divorced, he's pissed and bitter, and he just bought a gun. He got a permit, went through the waiting period, and now he's a gun owner. No one says "gee, this guy just got divorced three months ago AND lost his house". Hello?

Rochard 07-20-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19070625)
it's a collective sickness in our culture. it will never go away. take a look at the "movie" they were going to see. this country is saturated in violence. up to our elbows in it and the imagery that's projected is "batfag 13" ... "rambozo 10" ... shoot at a guy , he never get's hit. blow up shit ... nobody ever dies, all these wars, wars, wars. if your dad is out killing for ten years what do you think the children are going to start doing ... emulating daddy sooner or later ... the "media" exacerbates these types of problem$ and everybody sucks it up. enjoy ... look he's on the news. a star is born ... more people for you to worship in this fucked up gerbil cage we live in ... get his photo let's facebook it with some line of text that makes you feel like you actually had an original idea once

:GFYBand - can't think about it. got work todo ... can't think about it ... it will bring me down ... don't stress, don't watch the news, take some pills get over it. stop being such a downer man, pray pray to Jesus

LOL. The movies is one thing.... Most 11 and 12 year olds now play Call Of Duty where they hunt people down to kill them. Great.

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19070693)
You're missing the point

yeah yeah in "reality" there is no such thing as an "illegal" gun but i don't care about your semantics.

Site Collector 07-20-2012 09:02 AM

i teared today when i saw the news and heard of the lil girl shot in her backl think about that, an innocent lil girl who just wanted to watch a movie. senseless killing.

3 month old baby wounded as well.

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070692)
No, it's the guns. We hand out guns to anyone who wants one and this includes the people that are not normal too.

No, if you outlaw guns it will not be something else. People use guns because it requires no prep time, it's quick, easy, and nearly impossible to stop.

And don't give me no bullshit about how we need guns to protect ourselves. No one pulled a gun last night to stop this guy, and even if they did it would have been too late. Ever notice how when this kind of stuff goes down there is never someone with a concealed weapon who takes action?

We hand out guns to nearly anyone. A friend of mine just got divorced, he's pissed and bitter, and he just bought a gun. He got a permit, went through the waiting period, and now he's a gun owner. No one says "gee, this guy just got divorced three months ago AND lost his house". Hello?

so you punish the normal people because of your fear? that's bullshit and it won't happen unless you want another civil war :2 cents: will be kind of short because what are the people that don't believe in guns use? bullhorns?

GAMEFINEST 07-20-2012 09:04 AM

CNN is eating this up for days

SuckOnThis 07-20-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 19070422)
The movie theater that got shot up was a "gun free zones", meaning the business stated no guns were allow on premise.

Strange how that didn't stop the guy though? Your logic says if we say people aren't allowed to have/do something then it won't happen?!



I say give everyone flame throwers, machine guns and nuclear weapons. Will you feel safer then?

GregE 07-20-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19070531)
The whole "make guns illegal to all people" is useless.
Criminals would have an orgy of home invasion robberies.

Exactly.

And no matter how anyone tries to spin it, there's simply no refuting that argument.

And therefore, after the dust settles, that's why nothing will change.

SilentKnight 07-20-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by adamneve (Post 19070551)
this world has became insane

Actually...it has been insane a VERY long time, throughout history.

Mass media makes it possible for the entire world to hear about horrific atrocities instantly as opposed to the old days when it was mostly word-of-mouth.

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19070746)
Exactly.

And no matter how anyone tries to spin it, there's simply no refuting that argument.

And therefore, after the dust settles, that's why nothing will change.

its not happening in canada..

Dirty F 07-20-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070594)
taking guns away will not end random violence!

Correct, it will make it way less. Funny how an 8 year old could figure that out yet you gun loving 3rd world country idiots can't.

helterskelter808 07-20-2012 09:18 AM

Banning murder has not ended murder. May as well legalize it.

Kevsh 07-20-2012 09:19 AM

Bah, don't even try to argue with pro-gun people, in their alternate universe they seriously believe the answer to gun violence is more guns.

But whatever your beliefs, you can't possibly justify the failure to extend the assault weapon ban (read up if you're unfamiliar). Any country that thinks it's perfectly fine for private citizens to own Ak-47s is beyond help.

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19070769)
its not happening in canada..

i heard they put muscle relaxers in the syrup over there. :helpme

Dirty F 07-20-2012 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 19070535)
It's never because of the guns... NEVER.

It doesn't matter that this shit always happens in the US, where it's incredibly easy to buy a gun.

Statistics show that the US is about as bad as a lot of 3rd world countries when it comes to gun violence. The US has more violence in general than most civilized countries.
Isn't thad odd? I thought guns made everything more safe?

Dirty F 07-20-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 19070782)
Bah, don't even try to argue with pro-gun people, in their alternate universe they seriously believe the answer to gun violence is more guns.

But whatever your beliefs, you can't possibly justify the failure to extend the assault weapon ban (read up if you're unfamiliar). Any country that thinks it's perfectly fine for private citizens to own Ak-47s is beyond help.

Yes, gun nuts are some of the dumbest people around. It's just crazy. Any form of logic is gone as soon as they start protecting their right to own guns.

helterskelter808 07-20-2012 09:22 AM

Guns make gun companies rich. That's the one and fucking only reason why they are not banned.

Dirty F 07-20-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19070531)
Any decent metal fabricator can make a gun in his basement.

The whole "make guns illegal to all people" is useless.
Criminals would have an orgy of home invasion robberies.

Seriously, you can't be THIS retarded. That's just not possible.

SuckOnThis 07-20-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19070770)
Correct, it will make it way less. Funny how an 8 year old could figure that out yet you gun loving 3rd world country idiots can't.

Not everyone here is a gun loving whacko.

What I find amusing is these gun nuts portray themselves as tough guys, yet they are so scared of their own shadow they can't walk out their front door without a weapon.

Dirty F 07-20-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli (Post 19070626)
Everybody shooting each other these days.. Its sick.

Yup. Go buy more guns. It will make things safer.

Kevsh 07-20-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BV (Post 19070624)
Happened in Toronto Canada a couple weeks prior. :2 cents: In fact one of the girls killed last night escaped the Toronto incident.

So there goes your theory out the window because CA has pretty strict gun laws. :2 cents:

And where do the majority of illegal guns come from?
Thank U.S.A. for exporting your gun problem north, we owe you one.

And for the truly ignorant, we have the longest undefended border in the world, there's is no realistic way to keep guns out of Canada.

Si 07-20-2012 09:34 AM

And yet in the same country, a presidential candidate wants to ban porn?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075266

Oh yeah because there is soo many people being killed by the adult sector :1orglaugh

More Guns + Less Porn = Win?

Young 07-20-2012 09:35 AM

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ninavain 07-20-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19070831)

well there you have it

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ninavain (Post 19070871)
well there you have it

the guy is most likely mentally ill and visits infowars.com on a regular basis. how many other crazies that went on a shooting spree frequent that site? its like a breeding ground for the delusional.

Rochard 07-20-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070721)
so you punish the normal people because of your fear? that's bullshit and it won't happen unless you want another civil war :2 cents: will be kind of short because what are the people that don't believe in guns use? bullhorns?

I don't live in fear of anything.

I don't live in fear of going to the movies, the mall, or sending my kid to college. The odds of me or my child facing something like this is pretty much nil.

My problem is we hand guns out like it's candy. My friend just got a divorce. His beautiful wife just drop kicked, he lost his house, lives in a crappy apartment, and he has no fucking social skills what so ever. He always wanted a gun, wife wouldn't let him, and now that he doesn't answer to his wife he decided to go out and get one. He passed the background check and went through the waiting period, but no one ever said "Hey, this guy just went through divorced and lost everything and there might be a problem here". They just said "okay" and now he's got a handgun even though he's a perfect candidate for loosing it all and going on a shooting spree.

There's no classes, no training, no mental check, no nothing.

Take guns out of it. We don't let people drink until they are twenty-one because they are not responsible enough to be trusted with drinking... Yet we have no fucking problem handing out a driver's license at age sixteen. Can't trust a twenty year with a beer, but we can trust a sixteen year old to pilot a guided missile down the same streets you and I drive. Not sure about you, but when I was sixteen I was a horrible driver - and I had a list of tickets and accidents to prove it. I totaled two cars before I was nineteen.

At the same time, the guns that are out there need to be locked down. It's a pretty simple concept - I don't live my keys in my car and no one can take my car. If you own a firearm, it needs to be physically on you or locked up, no exceptions. Telling me it's in your nightstand isn't good enough - your kid can get it, someone else's kid can get it, anyone can break into your house and get it.

At Lightspeed Cash we had a programmer and one night while I was with him he got pulled over. I had no fucking clue but he had enough firepower in the trunk of his car to start a serious war. He handguns, rilfes, and shotguns... He also a MAC10 and an Uzi. Why the fuck does a programmer need to carry a dozen firearms in his car on a daily basis?

qwe 07-20-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070594)
taking guns away will not end random violence!

you people are fucking idiots... it will not end it but make it WAY less.. let's say guns are illegal, yes you can still get them on a black market but it will be WAY harder then just go to the store and buy them...you need to know connections to get into black market to buy one, many under cover cops might pose as a seller and catch people left and right before they do anything... like if I wanted an illegal gun right now I would not know where to go and get one, that's a prove right there that it would stop a lot of people

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070900)
I don't live in fear of anything.

I don't live in fear of going to the movies, the mall, or sending my kid to college. The odds of me or my child facing something like this is pretty much nil.

My problem is we hand guns out like it's candy. My friend just got a divorce. His beautiful wife just drop kicked, he lost his house, lives in a crappy apartment, and he has no fucking social skills what so ever. He always wanted a gun, wife wouldn't let him, and now that he doesn't answer to his wife he decided to go out and get one. He passed the background check and went through the waiting period, but no one ever said "Hey, this guy just went through divorced and lost everything and there might be a problem here". They just said "okay" and now he's got a handgun even though he's a perfect candidate for loosing it all and going on a shooting spree.

There's no classes, no training, no mental check, no nothing.

Take guns out of it. We don't let people drink until they are twenty-one because they are not responsible enough to be trusted with drinking... Yet we have no fucking problem handing out a driver's license at age sixteen. Can't trust a twenty year with a beer, but we can trust a sixteen year old to pilot a guided missile down the same streets you and I drive. Not sure about you, but when I was sixteen I was a horrible driver - and I had a list of tickets and accidents to prove it. I totaled two cars before I was nineteen.

At the same time, the guns that are out there need to be locked down. It's a pretty simple concept - I don't live my keys in my car and no one can take my car. If you own a firearm, it needs to be physically on you or locked up, no exceptions. Telling me it's in your nightstand isn't good enough - your kid can get it, someone else's kid can get it, anyone can break into your house and get it.

At Lightspeed Cash we had a programmer and one night while I was with him he got pulled over. I had no fucking clue but he had enough firepower in the trunk of his car to start a serious war. He handguns, rilfes, and shotguns... He also a MAC10 and an Uzi. Why the fuck does a programmer need to carry a dozen firearms in his car on a daily basis?

blame it on the guns. guns don't shoot people.people shoot the guns. do some research most of the people that are doing these mass shootings don't have records.
oh man don't get me started :1orglaugh you can't drink till 21 but you can go to war and kill people or end up dead over there.

xNetworx 07-20-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070900)

At Lightspeed Cash we had a programmer and one night while I was with him he got pulled over. I had no fucking clue but he had enough firepower in the trunk of his car to start a serious war. He handguns, rilfes, and shotguns... He also a MAC10 and an Uzi. Why the fuck does a programmer need to carry a dozen firearms in his car on a daily basis?

Was it Lane?

PR_Glen 07-20-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19070415)
Yeah, and I've noticed they usually drive to commit these acts, we should ban cars too... Also, with obesity problem in America out with the spoons as well! :upsidedow

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...54554381_n.jpg

BTW... I'm not so much pro gun as I am pro liberty. :winkwink:

either way your argument is feeble here..

I'm not for banning guns either but comparing them to cars and spoons is ridiculous.

Ross 07-20-2012 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070900)

Take guns out of it. We don't let people drink until they are twenty-one because they are not responsible enough to be trusted with drinking... Yet we have no fucking problem handing out a driver's license at age sixteen. Can't trust a twenty year with a beer, but we can trust a sixteen year old to pilot a guided missile down the same streets you and I drive. Not sure about you, but when I was sixteen I was a horrible driver - and I had a list of tickets and accidents to prove it. I totaled two cars before I was nineteen.

This is what I don't understand with the USA. You can get married and own a gun at 16 but can't have an alcoholic drink at your own wedding to celebrate. You have to wait 5 years. The rest of the world is 18 for the most part, around the time you are done High School or in your first year of College/University. Perfect time to be legal to drink alcohol, you already made massive life decisions, I think you can handle some booze.

Rochard 07-20-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070926)
blame it on the guns. guns don't shoot people.people shoot the guns. do some research most of the people that are doing these mass shootings don't have records.
oh man don't get me started :1orglaugh you can't drink till 21 but you can go to war and kill people or end up dead over there.

People use guns to shoot people. Take away the guns and people can't shoot people.

This fucker last night isn't going to take a baseball bat or a knife and kill a dozen people in thirty seconds. They use guns because it takes zero prep time, it's instant, and it's difficult to stop a gunman.

Rochard 07-20-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss (Post 19070934)
Was it Lane?

In fact, no, it was a kid named Phil. Before Lane.

Rochard 07-20-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 19070945)
This is what I don't understand with the USA. You can get married and own a gun at 16 but can't have an alcoholic drink at your own wedding to celebrate. You have to wait 5 years. The rest of the world is 18 for the most part, around the time you are done High School or in your first year of College/University. Perfect time to be legal to drink alcohol, you already made massive life decisions, I think you can handle some booze.

When I was in the Marines I was seventeen and wasn't allowed to drink. Go figure.

However, on base the legal drinking age was 18 and in town... Well, no one really carded back then. No one cared.

flashfire 07-20-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19070350)
:1orglaugh the movies are terrible :2 cents:

I think you mean turrible

GregE 07-20-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19070769)
its not happening in canada..

Things are a bit different down here.

Within a two week span five houses on my block were burglarized and in one instance the woman was home, she locked herself in the bathroom. And judging by the property taxes I pay, one might reasonably assume that this is supposed to be a "nice" neighborhood.

The other day I read about how even the banks are now hiring thugs to break into peoples houses and throw their shit out into the front yard. And these aren't even court sanctioned foreclosures. They're going after homeowners who are just two or three months behind or, in some cases, they target the wrong house altogether.

It's getting to be like the wild west all over again.

And you're wondering why people down here want to keep guns in their homes?

Evil1 07-20-2012 10:42 AM

The shooter didnt do it, the government that built the roads to drive to get there is responsible.

Evil1 07-20-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19070797)
Seriously, you can't be THIS retarded. That's just not possible.

Homemade guns arent possible? really?

TampaToker 07-20-2012 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19070489)
Tell me this isn't some Final Destination type of shit....

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07...usaolp00000003

I cant even calculate the odds of being in just one movie theater shooting in a life time much less 2 theater shooting in one month. That is some really freaky stuff :party-smi


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