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2012 07-20-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil1 (Post 19070982)
The shooter didnt do it, the government that built the roads to drive to get there is responsible.

:1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/ifK31.jpg

GregE 07-20-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19070831)

That kinda explains everything, now doesn't it?

He looks a lot like that nut who shot George Wallace way back when.

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070955)
People use guns to shoot people. Take away the guns and people can't shoot people.

This fucker last night isn't going to take a baseball bat or a knife and kill a dozen people in thirty seconds. They use guns because it takes zero prep time, it's instant, and it's difficult to stop a gunman.

like i said you try to take away guns your pushing for civil war. you take away the guns your breaking the rules! im not going to say anymore i have orders to send out messing with all this shit. have a good one.

Captain Kawaii 07-20-2012 10:52 AM

Who is dosing the water supplies in Colorado? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Columbine, Crack Heads, Now this?

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 19070964)
I think you mean turrible

yeah make it racial bullshit. hows comus thumbs? :)

BAKO 07-20-2012 10:58 AM

That's just wrong

Dirty F 07-20-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19070955)
People use guns to shoot people. Take away the guns and people can't shoot people.

This fucker last night isn't going to take a baseball bat or a knife and kill a dozen people in thirty seconds. They use guns because it takes zero prep time, it's instant, and it's difficult to stop a gunman.

Exactly! Why is it so amazingly hard to understand for the gun nuts?

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 19070981)
Things are a bit different down here.

Within a two week span five houses on my block were burglarized and in one instance the woman was home, she locked herself in the bathroom. And judging by the property taxes I pay, one might reasonably assume that this is supposed to be a "nice" neighborhood.

The other day I read about how even the banks are now hiring thugs to break into peoples houses and throw their shit out into the front yard. And these aren't even court sanctioned foreclosures. They're going after homeowners who are just two or three months behind or, in some cases, they target the wrong house altogether.

It's getting to be like the wild west all over again.

And you're wondering why people down here want to keep guns in their homes?

well there is probably no going back in the US as there are so many guns, if it were made harder to get them, there still so many out there previously. however, as much as people feel guns keep them safe, the easy availability of guns makes people unsafe, in my opinion.

here in canada, typically the only home invasions involving guns is one drug dealer robbing another. other home robberies are typically either done by kids or drug addicts who have a knife or nothing. there was one outside out of ottawa here a while back where the invader was killed with a baseball bat after threatening the homeowner with a knife.

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 11:20 AM

the suspect reminds me of this guy
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/...e4e061e9d3.jpg
probably another ritalin kid turned psychopathic conspiracy theorist nut.

helterskelter808 07-20-2012 11:25 AM

He reminds me of Jude Law.

moeloubani 07-20-2012 11:28 AM

you teach people that killing is okay when you go overseas and murder by the tens of thousands and not even blink an eye

the respect for human life goes down and killing just seems like something people do instead of the fucked up thing it is

past 10 years have been war war war - what do you think kids growing up in that time have been shaped to think?

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 19071073)
you teach people that killing is okay when you go overseas and murder by the tens of thousands and not even blink an eye

the respect for human life goes down and killing just seems like something people do instead of the fucked up thing it is

past 10 years have been war war war - what do you think kids growing up in that time have been shaped to think?

yet this kind of thing didn't happen during vietnam or world war 2, so whats changed?

2012 07-20-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19071056)
the suspect reminds me of this guy
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5127/...e4e061e9d3.jpg
probably another ritalin kid turned psychopathic conspiracy theorist nut.


Colorado shooting suspect studied neuroscience at UC Riverside
The man suspected of killing at least 12 and injuring dozens of others in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater shooting graduated from UC Riverside, the university confirmed to the Los Angeles Times.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...riverside.html


KillerK 07-20-2012 11:40 AM

I bet nobody owns an exit door now at a movie theater.

GregE 07-20-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 19071047)
well there is probably no going back in the US as there are so many guns, if it were made harder to get them, there still so many out there previously. however, as much as people feel guns keep them safe, the easy availability of guns makes people unsafe, in my opinion.

here in canada, typically the only home invasions involving guns is one drug dealer robbing another. other home robberies are typically either done by kids or drug addicts who have a knife or nothing. there was one outside out of ottawa here a while back where the invader was killed with a baseball bat after threatening the homeowner with a knife.

Yeah, the Genie's out of the bottle down here.

You've got a good thing going on up your way. With any luck, things will stay that way for you and your fellow citizens :thumbsup

CyberHustler 07-20-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19070831)

I knew it...

ShoeBox 07-20-2012 11:48 AM

R.I.P people.

Ramirez 07-20-2012 11:49 AM

http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Jef...f_Goldblum.jpg

boneprone 07-20-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 19070179)
15 people confirmed dead now. 50+ injured, at least 3 critical. Youngest reported victim is 6 years old.

Jesus. That's my son's age.
:(:(:(

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 19070782)
Bah, don't even try to argue with pro-gun people, in their alternate universe they seriously believe the answer to gun violence is more guns.

But whatever your beliefs, you can't possibly justify the failure to extend the assault weapon ban (read up if you're unfamiliar). Any country that thinks it's perfectly fine for private citizens to own Ak-47s is beyond help.

i have 6 ak-47's :)


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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 19071107)
I knew it...

knew what dogg? speak on it :helpme :1orglaugh

Rochard 07-20-2012 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19071004)
like i said you try to take away guns your pushing for civil war. you take away the guns your breaking the rules! im not going to say anymore i have orders to send out messing with all this shit. have a good one.

I'm not saying taking away guns. I'm saying we need to raise the barrier to getting guns.

I'm a forty-three year old former US Marine and I have five identical assault riles in my house. Doesn't it strike anyone as being strange? No one comes to my house to inspect them once every other year, no one checks me out to make sure I'm not seeing a shrink....

My wife had a gun once. She was rather vague about where she got it from; It was just a small handgun. Twenty years later, oddly enough, we aren't sure what happened to it. I knew we had it in Danville (CA) when we first started dating, but shortly afterwards it disappeared. We aren't sure where or when. The problem is someone somewhere most likely has that handgun. There is no fucking tracking for any of this.

It's just like getting your driver's license. Pretty much if you can pass an eye test you can drive. You don't need a doctor's note proving your physically fit. Nearly every one has seen that video this week of the white SUV driving in the wrong direction, which is blamed on some "medical condition". My ten year old kid needs a physical to be in sports, but no one needs a physical to drive a car down the road with other drivers? When your twenty-five, that's fine. When your sixty-nine like my mother, that's fucking scary.

Is it asking too much to require us to have our firearms inspected once a year if only to prove that we still have them? Is it asking too much to require medical facilities to inform the state or federal government of any medical reasons someone shouldn't own a gun? Is it asking too much that if someone beats down their wife that their firearms be taken away from them?

If your doctor believes you are unable to drive a care safely, they can take away your DL. They should do the same with guns. On Medication for depression? First thing they should do before they hand over your pills is see if you have a gun permit.

Young 07-20-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19071167)
knew what dogg? speak on it :helpme :1orglaugh

Shooter was white. As are the majority of mass/spree killers. But you won't hear it talked about here. Now if the mugshot was a black guy...you'd surely have at least a page of racist shit being posted.

The thing that I find funniest is that

White Mass Killer = "he must be mentally ill"
Black Mass Killer = "somebody must have pissed him off"

Young 07-20-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19071178)
Shooter was white. As are the majority of mass/spree killers. But you won't hear it talked about here. Now if the mugshot was a black guy...you'd surely have at least a page of racist shit being posted.

The thing that I find funniest is that

White Mass Killer = "he must be mentally ill"
Black Mass Killer = "somebody must have pissed him off"

50 people injured, 12 dead :(

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19071170)
I'm not saying taking away guns. I'm saying we need to raise the barrier to getting guns.

I'm a forty-three year old former US Marine and I have five identical assault riles in my house. Doesn't it strike anyone as being strange? No one comes to my house to inspect them once every other year, no one checks me out to make sure I'm not seeing a shrink....

My wife had a gun once. She was rather vague about where she got it from; It was just a small handgun. Twenty years later, oddly enough, we aren't sure what happened to it. I knew we had it in Danville (CA) when we first started dating, but shortly afterwards it disappeared. We aren't sure where or when. The problem is someone somewhere most likely has that handgun. There is no fucking tracking for any of this.

It's just like getting your driver's license. Pretty much if you can pass an eye test you can drive. You don't need a doctor's note proving your physically fit. Nearly every one has seen that video this week of the white SUV driving in the wrong direction, which is blamed on some "medical condition". My ten year old kid needs a physical to be in sports, but no one needs a physical to drive a car down the road with other drivers? When your twenty-five, that's fine. When your sixty-nine like my mother, that's fucking scary.

Is it asking too much to require us to have our firearms inspected once a year if only to prove that we still have them? Is it asking too much to require medical facilities to inform the state or federal government of any medical reasons someone shouldn't own a gun? Is it asking too much that if someone beats down their wife that their firearms be taken away from them?

If your doctor believes you are unable to drive a care safely, they can take away your DL. They should do the same with guns. On Medication for depression? First thing they should do before they hand over your pills is see if you have a gun permit.

yes its too much i don't want big brother in my life if im not breaking the law. you sign up for the gov issue shit. :2 cents: this guy was a med student had a speeding ticket or two. don't try to regulate the people to make yourself feel safe.

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19071178)
Shooter was white. As are the majority of mass/spree killers. But you won't hear it talked about here. Now if the mugshot was a black guy...you'd surely have at least a page of racist shit being posted.

The thing that I find funniest is that

White Mass Killer = "he must be mentally ill"
Black Mass Killer = "somebody must have pissed him off"

:2 cents: :2 cents: true

RubyGoodnight 07-20-2012 12:26 PM

Apparenly, he said he was the Joker.

http://m.tmz.com/article_head.ftl?id...hooting-joker/

Tom_PM 07-20-2012 12:34 PM

Once again I'll have to repeat myself.

If you think making guns illegal wont stop people from getting guns, then why do we make things illegal? Why is heroine illegal? Why is human trafficking illegal? Why is crystal meth illegal? Why is driving drunk illegal? They wont be stopped from happening anyway... right?

Why do we lock our doors? People can just kick them in anyway.

Why do we post speed limits? People can just go as fast as they want anyway.

Why are there ANY regulations whatsoever in any society? People can just do what they want to anyway.

HINT:

de·ter·rent/diˈtərənt/
Noun:
A thing that discourages or is intended to discourage someone from some act.

Tom_PM 07-20-2012 12:36 PM

And by the way, I dont think they need to be illegal. I think there needs to be more strict REGULATION on who can get a freaking gun. Rights: INTACT. Deal with the opinion.

1215 07-20-2012 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Horny Dude (Post 19070471)
No shit. Get a fucking sitter.

hahahahahahahaa true story!!

RubyGoodnight 07-20-2012 12:48 PM

Just heard that there were two military airmen in the theater. One has been treated and released, one unaccounted for. Shit's gonna get Federal, now.

atom 07-20-2012 12:59 PM

Why does everyone outside the US assume people have guns so they can feel safe? I grew up hunting with my dad, ducks, geese and deer. Some of my fondest memories of him and I taking trips and getting up early to go setup a blind etc. Shooting targets, clay pigeons is also fun as hell.

I have passed this down to my son and while he is not big on deer hunting, we enjoy shooting trap together. I have guns and if someone broke into my house I would be fucked because they are locked away in a huge safe that I wouldn't be able to open in time. A lot of hunters like myself enjoy the skill involved. On a good day I can bring home some fresh meat, on a bad day I still get to go experience nature and bond with friends and family.

Mutt 07-20-2012 12:59 PM

You can't have a rational debate with a good % of Americans about guns, they will defend gun ownership of any kind because it gets passed down generation by generation how basic and important a right it is. if these killing sprees happened EVERY DAY, most of them would still defend their right to guns of any kind and look for other things to put the blame on - the media, mental illness, bad parenting and on and on.

here's the way I see it - whether you agree with it or not, i think it's reasonable that a citizen have the right to bear arms to protect himself, his family and property. And that means a simple rifle or pistol, ONE rifle or pistol. YOU DO NOT NEED AN ARSENAL OF SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS TO PROTECT YOURSELF!

helterskelter808 07-20-2012 01:00 PM

Gun ownership has nothing to do with rights, or the constitution, or defending yourself from tyranny. The Government of the US is the same now as it has been at any time since Eisenhower made his farewell speech. Same shit, different assholes.

The only person to have had the courage of his convictions and actually stood up to the "Federal Government", back in 1995, is classified as a maniac and domestic terrorist.

Red Dawn survivalist fantasies aside, there is no way to fight the US Government. 250 years ago Brits had the same weapons as the insurgents, now the Government can crush anyone it wants to like an ant. If the 2nd Amendment meant anything, and if the point really was to defend against 'tyranny', then people would be allowed to bear the same arms as the Government, up to and including nukes.

Of course the Government wouldn't allow people to have weapons that can threaten the Government. But AK-47s that can waste a bunch of other useless eaters that our overlords don't give a single fuck about? Sure, knock yourselves out.

Guns will not be banned while businesses are making $$$$$$$ from them. It's one thing the USA is still good at, making shit that destroys things. Civil liberties and the Constitution have nothing at all to do with it, and gun nuts are just supporting the very system they think they're defending themselves from.

Mutt 07-20-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 19071249)
Why does everyone outside the US assume people have guns so they can feel safe? I grew up hunting with my dad, ducks, geese and deer. Some of my fondest memories of him and I taking trips and getting up early to go setup a blind etc. Shooting targets, clay pigeons is also fun as hell.

I have passed this down to my son and while he is not big on deer hunting, we enjoy shooting trap together. I have guns and if someone broke into my house I would be fucked because they are locked away in a huge safe that I wouldn't be able to open in time. A lot of hunters like myself enjoy the skill involved. On a good day I can bring home some fresh meat, on a bad day I still get to go experience nature and bond with friends and family.

people in all countries that I know of can own that type of gun, do you think Canadians don't hunt deer and geese? And the British?

BlackCrayon 07-20-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19071262)
people in all countries that I know of can own that type of gun, do you think Canadians don't hunt deer and geese? And the British?

Canadians have more hunting rifles per capita than the US. the problem is with handguns and assault rifles.

brassmonkey 07-20-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19071213)
And by the way, I dont think they need to be illegal. I think there needs to be more strict REGULATION on who can get a freaking gun. Rights: INTACT. Deal with the opinion.

don't want the gov chipping away at my rights. just wait this shit is going to go too far. gov A holes started that tsa shit for what?? nothing :1orglaugh

galleryseek 07-20-2012 01:20 PM

The mentally ill will always have guns regardless of any conceivable law. Therefore the only logical conclusion that can be made is for advocating gun ownership. Know how to protect yourself and know how to use your gun.

I don't care how much of a deterrent a law can be, the mentally ill don't give a fuck and they WILL FIND GUNS. This will never, ever change.

theking 07-20-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 19070945)
This is what I don't understand with the USA. You can get married and own a gun at 16 but can't have an alcoholic drink at your own wedding to celebrate. You have to wait 5 years. The rest of the world is 18 for the most part, around the time you are done High School or in your first year of College/University. Perfect time to be legal to drink alcohol, you already made massive life decisions, I think you can handle some booze.

The legal age to drink alcohol was reduced to 18 and was raised back to 21 when drinking and driving deaths/injuries increased to what was determined to be unacceptable.

Rochard 07-20-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19071185)
yes its too much i don't want big brother in my life if im not breaking the law. you sign up for the gov issue shit. :2 cents: this guy was a med student had a speeding ticket or two. don't try to regulate the people to make yourself feel safe.

But it's not about breaking the law. It's ensuring the safety of others, very much in the same spirit we are required to get a driver's license.

This kid was a med student, great. But something happened along the way and he snapped. Someone should have caught something somewhere along the lines.

Rochard 07-20-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19071256)
Gun ownership has nothing to do with rights, or the constitution, or defending yourself from tyranny. The Government of the US is the same now as it has been at any time since Eisenhower made his farewell speech. Same shit, different assholes.

The only person to have had the courage of his convictions and actually stood up to the "Federal Government", back in 1995, is classified as a maniac and domestic terrorist.

Red Dawn survivalist fantasies aside, there is no way to fight the US Government. 250 years ago Brits had the same weapons as the insurgents, now the Government can crush anyone it wants to like an ant. If the 2nd Amendment meant anything, and if the point really was to defend against 'tyranny', then people would be allowed to bear the same arms as the Government, up to and including nukes.

Of course the Government wouldn't allow people to have weapons that can threaten the Government. But AK-47s that can waste a bunch of other useless eaters that our overlords don't give a single fuck about? Sure, knock yourselves out.

Guns will not be banned while businesses are making $$$$$$$ from them. It's one thing the USA is still good at, making shit that destroys things. Civil liberties and the Constitution have nothing at all to do with it, and gun nuts are just supporting the very system they think they're defending themselves from.

I never thought of it that way.

Two hundred years ago a rifle was a rifle. Now governments have planes and tanks.

Then again, look at what's happening in Syria. Seems the civilian population is taking on their government. The government is kicking their asses - you can't use a rifle against planes dropping bombs - but the yet they are still going strong.


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