Tam's online again, maybe she'll answer my questions now.

Years ago, before I started with MR, he had Badgirlbucks on there and I didn't know why he would have it on there. That program was about as straight up as it got at the time and I never did figure out why he'd have it on that list. There weren't any cross sales on it, there weren't any hidden costs, nothing like that, so the only thing I could ever think of was that he didn't like the owner and that is why it was there.

Like I said, to each his own and he can put whatever he likes on his site, as you all can, I just don't have to always agree with it, a bit more than I expect anyone to agree with everything I do.. everyone has a right to do as they wish.

If you are looking for me to say I don't like that he put MR programs on there, I never said one word about those programs, his criteria was that of prechecks and those were there so I got that.. and never complained one time about that. So if that is what you were expecting me to say, you are wrong. lol

lol @ badgirlbucks

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=512892

This was an interesting post:

Unauthorised charges on credit cards from MediaRevenue sites

Hi all,

For those that know us, will know that we are ones to avoid drama, and prefer to leave that to others, we just like to get our heads down, and get on building the best softcore sites we can!

However, there are some things that came to light over the last few weeks that I really feel the community need to make their own decisions on.

A quick synopsis of the events:

* We run the site www.porn-rewards.com, a loyalty site for users that join adult sites, if they join via our PR link, we give them PR points then when they have enough points they can spend the points on a free 30 day membership to a site of their choice. We do this buy purchasing a 30 day membership on their behalf with our own credit card.

When we join a site on behalf of a PR member, we always use unique, random usernames and passwords.

* On 14 March 2011 we joined the site socksorority.com (a Bad Girls Bucks site), and then cancelled within the 30 day period. We used a unique username (AsfgHYtv) and unique password.

Then on 5 May 2011 an unauthorised charge was made to our credit card for $9.95 for membership to the site xmovies.com (a Movie Profits site). An email was sent and the username / password combination was exactly the same as the original join to socksorority.com. This has been recurring for a couple of months until our accounts picked this up and started to investigate further.

* When the above unauthorised transaction was detected, further investigation found another new transaction on 16 July 2011, this time for membership to wildpass.com this one for $11.32. Again this was using the same username and password combination from the 14 March transaction.

* On 30 June 2011 there was another unauthorised transaction on our card for $39.95. Whilst we never got an email I can trace for this one so I do not know the username or what site it was for, I know it is associated with mediarevenue, as the reference on the bank is PGRECINCCOM.COM which is the same processor as used for the unauthorised xmovies.com transaction.


When I initially contacted Nick / Tam about the first transaction I was told by Tam, that all was corrected and the transaction refunded. On pushing for more of an explanation as to how it could have happened, initially I had a reply from Nick,

"We recently switched to NETCASH 3rd party billing and had to switch back, when we switch billing systems we our members a discount on their membership to make up for any possible confusion..

We would never take any money fraudulently, our support agents are available 24/7 and when people want to cancel/refund their memberships we make that happen asap."

On pushing for a better response (the one above makes no sense to me), it took some chasing, then got a longer response from Tam, the shorter version of this was,

"When you signed up, maybe you didn’t uncheck the cross sales, or we had a script error that day on the processor end? This is another piece we have to research..in any case, those xsales are indeed in house and owned by us. It is not an outside entity.

Our company is quite large. And currently you are catching is in the middle of a tremendous overall. We have 40+ programs, 40+ NATS licenses, and are merging them all into 10.

This is quite the task, and involved with it is also a new 7 day hold and payout plan, moving to a 4 day...and everything involved with this. As well as moving all the processing to within those guidelines and mergers.

The processing issue did happen, we acknowledge this, and thank you for pointing it out. Hopefully you can see it was not intentional, and you can see something like this could have happened with everything going on."


With regards unchecking cross sales, (a) we always do (b) but even if we did not in error, our membership to socksorority.com ended 14 April 2011, these unauthorised transactions started in May / June / July.


There were other transactions our accounts found from 2010 that were unauthorised in a similar style (we made a paid for join using unique user/pass then a few months later an unauthorised transaction to another site using the same username/password), but these were with the old SOBV sites, and on raising these with Media Revenue, I was told they only took ownership in Jan 2011, so this needs taking up with the past owners. I cannot dispute that and did not mention these transactions further with them.


On pushing Tam / Nick for a better explanation on the charges from their sites as I still do not feel this was a good explanation, I received an email from Tam saying "this matter is closed for us, you are now verging on harassment, and its time to move on. Any more false accusations or misinformation from you, I will have sent directly to our attorneys, XXXXXX, here in Orlando."


I am posting this to the community so as you can read all this, and make your own minds up.

This industry is suffering enough with tubes sites, torrents, forums posting full site sets, and if the customer can no longer have confidence in the billing practices of sites, what hope is there for the industry to turn the tide and start growing again with confidence.

We have removed all links to any Media Revenue site from porn-rewards.com and would not promote them, or any other site / sponsor they may join with in the future.

I am sure I will get grief for posting this, and debated whether I should, but this is something I feel very strongly about, and would like others to make their own minds up.

Regards,

Paul
www.porn-rewards.com

It ofcourse has nothing to do you with you or the programs you worked for. Right?
Are there any limits to your arrogance?
Do you realize that your current behaviour, like nothing happened and like you never pissed off anyone, is just making things worse? I'd expect someone as old as you to understand that by now.

Yup, that's how those scammers work. First they bang your card and then tell you to fuck off.
Tam is well aware what's going on but just like everyone else there who gets paid they just go on and lie to you.

Now we'll wait for Tam to explain how there is nothing going on and nobody has a problem with her.

Ok, touche, I had not seen that. I started with them I think just after all of that and when I started, that was one of the first things the current owner and I took care of. It was done by an employee and when I had been told about it, I went to every single tour and removed it. But yes, I see your point and I now concede that that would be reason enough to be on there. So thanks for reminding me of that.

It's pretty damn clear by now that Tam was 100% aware of the scamming going on. People who still protect her should be put on the same shitlist as where she belongs.

:thumbsup the one thing I have learned about Tam over the years is that she definitely doesn't need anyone defending her :)

after all that nothing else than pure lies from her and company she work for, i would be not so surprised if her leaving is not just another game :2 cents: stay away and ignore her everyone, the best you can do :2 cents:

Actually she is doing a VERY bad job and makes things just worse and worse...not sure how you not can see that.

spazlabs, what mental deficiencies do you have?

Edit: nm, you're from Kentucky.

I get the impression that she is no different than the vast majority of people here, she does not care much what other people who post here think. She's her to make a living and that's what she is focused on.


Now, see if you can turn that into me making an endorsement :winkwink:

That is hilarious. So I say someone does not need defending and that means I am defending them?

You're an idiot. She knowingly worked for a company that was/is banging peoples credit cards and you think she has 1 ounce of decency?

While I wont call you any names I will challenge you to quote where I made that point. You are obviously reading what you want into what I am typing instead of realizing what it is I am actually saying. You are implying that I am saying things that I am, in fact, not addressing at all.

This thread is about Tam, so not here to discuss your defendings of her. Yes, you saying she can fight her own battles is defending her. Just know that you're an idiot and in the same class as BVF.

Making deals 24/7

:1orglaugh

Look, I am done arguing with you and defending myself. You think what you want to think and what you believe in your heart of hearts and I'll continue to know the truth and we can just agree to disagree.


As for your calling me arrogant, you seriously don't know me at all. I am the last person in the world that is arrogant, I am just REAL... and if that bothers you then I am sorry. But I am who I am and I say what I think and I don't back down or hide, if this bothers you, I am sorry.

But this isn't productive for either of us, so you think what you want to think, and do and say whatever you want to do or say.... that is fine with me. But I am done defending myself on this, I had a job and I no longer have that job. So have fun with your bad self, but I am done here.

your logic is completely lacking, while others who have come and gone from this forum or escaped into new nicks are unable to fight their own battles Tam is not one of them. equating my pointing that out as defending her shows you to be an overly emotional, irrational person bent on attacking anyone who does not cower before you. I have seen nothing in this thread that points out your superior intellect except for your assertions that I, someone you do not know at all, is an 'idiot'

I assert that there is a close minded, totally erroneously self assured, knee jerk ignoramus in our exchanges and it is not me. You attack me for simply pointing out that the person you originally attacked certainly does not need (or probably even welcome) 3rd parties defending her. Are you so sensitive that if someone does not immediately jump to your side... or any side for that matter since I am neutral on the discussion...that you feel compelled to attack them as well?

call me an idiot all you like, your opinion at this point matters little to me. You were wrong to turn your blazing wit on me and I think you realize it as well but you're either too proud or too childish to admit that. I did not defend Tam, I would not defend Tam and you just do not want to admit that.

this is like nuremberg trials 45-46. "we didnt knew about anything, no we didnt we have been just listening to orders" ... guilty! understand? guilty! howgh

everything she says is bs. everyone knew that media revenue was scaming people, she knew too. but she needed a job so she defended them and pretended not to know. when it came to a point where she felt like the company was in trouble and she might not get paid she then pretended to find out what was going on and left because it was the rigth thing to do. so much bs. too bad she cant be honest and just say that she needed a job and needed the money. all of this i didnt know but now i do bs is just bs and makes her look more stupid. no one believes you tam.

tam is a good worker, she defended them very well but had no clue that they were doing anything illegal. :1orglaugh

I did need the job and did need the money.. where did you ever see me say anything any different than this? I have a family to feed and I make no bones about that. Why else do people work? If I didn't have bills to pay and mouths to feed, I'd be doing everything I do for the sheer fun of doing it.

I don't know where you come off saying I was not being paid, I never said this either, that was something someone else posted, once again, and someone who knew nothing about me, as you obviously don't.

Should I go and get me a fake nick and come back and just introduce myself as new to the industry? THAT, to me would be dishonest, and I don't hide. I could do it and not one of you would even have a clue, but I didn't and won't.

But that would be dishonest? How ironic!

Tam is excused from the industry. She's done. Zero remorse for knowingly working for a company that is/was scamming people. Good luck Tam, you're gonna need it sweet pea.

Aww, thank you so much. Can I count on you to vouch for me in the job I am not looking for? I seen you were trying to send my resume. I appreciate your help so much.

You were excused Tambo, go away.

So does this mean you are over your crush on me now? Please say it isn't so, I was so having fun being your crush.

Exactly how it went and still goes...

pibcash, MR, whos next

don't forget badgirlbucks, another shady program, before MR scooped them up.

You all seriously don't do your homework very well do you? I'll leave you alone and maybe see how long it takes you to answer your own questions, how's that? :thumbsup

You are a very good investigator, you found public pics that have been posted everywhere back when I was my own content. You should change your nick to Top Dog Investigator.

Nice job, babe!! :thumbsup

That is nice that your friends are being paid, can I be your friend?

Well I highly doubt anyone is being paid because they are my friends, that's just wishful thinking. But yes, I'll be your friend. :thumbsup

I just meant that people have been letting me know they have finally been paid, not all, but the ones I talked to daily let me know.