well thats because youve only been at the end of his finger pointing. If you would at anytime actually talk to the guy about shit other than adult industry... pretty solid thinker and all around "Good guy"

borderline psychotic? lols!!

Lets go down this road a minute other DJ.... lets all think back to why franck focused on you in the first place. Do you agree with what your employers were "accused" of? Ill bet not.

Try this out bro. You got that job because i turned it down numerous times before you. Why? Integrity. You took it for a paycheck. You sold yours. Now you want it back with no consequences? tsk tsk bro.

well hey. I must be bat shit fucking crazy to see the good in franck huh?

The way I see it. Anyone wrongfully trolled by him is a casualty of war.

Yes I agree. Which I already stated previously in some other thread to him directly. Which he then continued accusing me of "being in the know"

I didn't know about it and never did until after I left. It's that simple. But hey, whip out the tin foil hats :) I'm flattered.

funny. the rest of the industry knew... where were you? I think you just might be having some selective memory...

If you tell me you hadnt known of the accusations on them before they approached you... then I will start calling you a liar. That or a blind fool.

No I don't think they did, I think it wasn't until the end of 2008 or something. Also, obviously no, I didn't know when they hired me, otherwise I wouldn't have in the first place. '

When I heard of rumors, actually Frank was a positive influence in my decision to stop working with them.

[QUOTE=DJ The Kid;19080270]No I don't think they did, I think it wasn't until the end of 2008 or something. Also, obviously no, I didn't know when they hired me, otherwise I wouldn't have in the first place. '
Yet you hate him?

weird bro.

If you feel that way then you should also know it was justified. either way. I dont think youre the same mold as youre previous employers but You did have licks coming once you made youre 'awareness' known.

Anyway. I knew of the shit that was going on and like I said. I turned the same job offer down that you took multiple times before you. YOu actually got the job less than a week after I told them no for the last time. But I was approached after for shell companies they bought and told good friends that were employed by them that I wouldnt work with them.

Soooo.... I dunno. Lot of people knew previous to your employment.

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Problem is in the thread about Tam, you can see DWB supporting them still. So he really now has done a 360.

I remember when he made a thread and recanting. Though I think it was after he was ripped for some content of his that he made the change of heart.

I do have sympathy for an employee that needs to get by... But them just needing the money is no excuse.

100% this. Shit-talking douche from day 1.

he's probably already here. you guys and the childish fake account shit

Actually, I think you're wrong on this one.

When I met DJ, SOBV was still an OK company doing business with many people. It wasn't until later that the shit hit the fan. JJ went down in flames very quickly and used the Webmaster Checks fiasco to slip out the back door.

People who worked for JJ did so remotely. I don't know if DJ knew about the accusations or not, but I don't see why he would even be in the know about that sort of thing if they were true. That would be something JJ would probably keep to himself or to his closest inner circle of him and Shawn. Everyone hears rumors about this guy or that guy, but unless you are presented with real evidence, you just go about your day and hope for the best. That's all someone can do. I'm sure I can speak for many when I say I do not let GFY and the anonymous trolls who fuel it, to dictate who I work with/for.

No, with I$ my contract expired and I wouldn't renew it. The content issue came after when I had to DMCA them to remove the content they no longer had the rights to use. However, they did still owe me a few grand from before the contact expired.


Franck? That was fast. :upsidedow

Seriously, fuck you.

Who am I supporting? A girl who I don't know that a bunch of anonymous internet bullies are ganging up on? You are all acting like fucking children over there, and apparently here now too. She was a employee, not someone in control of the money, and you retards are too ignorant to accept that. Take it up with whoever is in control of the money at whatever company you're witch hunting this week. But as usual, none of you trolls have the balls to say a WORD to anyone who actually makes the decisions at any of these companies. Instead you attack the employees behind fake nicks like a bunch of cowardly pansie asses.

Horse piss. It was all well knit. There was a main orchestrator that helped many companies start banging.

The same thing Ive said to DJ can be said about you. You were working with them when it all started. Not saying you had anything to do with it. But theres no way you hadnt heard the rumors.

Look guys. its a touchy subject that no one wants to be involved with. But its that very point that im trying to get at. We all knew. Say it with me. WE ALLLLLL KNEEEWWWW!

it's payback time

I think we're debating different things.

I'm saying that when I started shooting for them, they were still doing business with all the other companies, still had a good reputation, and the shit had not yet started to hit the fan. I met DJ within 1 - 2 months of starting to shoot for them and at that time, all was still gravy. At least to my knowledge. If rumors were going around at this point, I didn't hear them.

What I'm also saying is, rumors or not, it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone working for JJ to have any idea what is really going on because none of us sat there with him. He was the king of keeping people in the dark. There was no office, no office chatting, no kicking it with the boys on the weekend. His workers were spread out all over the world, and it defies logic for him to have told any of us what he is really up to. My sole job was shoot content per his specs. At no time did he clue me in to his plans for global domination, and why would he? I have to assume the same applies to everyone who worked remotely. Why risk an entire operation by telling people your plans when they are not people who need to know them?

However, I did later ask him several times about the rumors I was hearing, but he was 100% convincing they were just rumors, and many of them spread by obvious competitors. In fact, he was a LOT more convincing than anyone on any board who has said otherwise. He showed me stats and numbers on multiple occasions. No where did I see anything shady. It all looked like x-sales and join upgrades. If he had some secret back end admin where they were banging cards, he didn't talk about it. That doesn't mean he didn't, but it means I didn't know, and I believe no one working for him knew, if that was going on or not.

See, the thing about guys who are able to grow large companies like that is, they are good at what they do and know how to manage or manipulate people, which in JJ's case was usually the latter. They are also VERY good and convincing you of whatever it is they want you to believe. That is why you work for them and not the other way around.

No, we all found out. We all didn't know.

There is a difference.

Oh shyte can of worms

I like DWB so I'm happy with this decision.

I like DWB too. Always have.

I just say what I feel. Usually regardless of who.

*group hug*

That being said you still haven't told me who's in your pic.

She has a dick.

and thats all that matters! :1orglaugh

Get back to work testers...

get a room! :helpme

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So. Still would...

Why do you care about this?

I could live with that...

Yea, there is a fine line where it just doesn't matter anymore.

I remember reading Richard Pryor's autobiography, and he told a story about how towards the end of his life when he was stricken with MS he was banging a tranny. His reasoning was she was so fucking hot he just didn't fucking care. I bet the chick in your avatar has made many a straight guy question himself and just not fucking care...

I've met a LOT of totally straight guys here in Thailand who just said "fuck it" and took a hot ladyboy home. Even guys who I know from back home who came here, total homophobes, some of them ended up with a ladyboy by the end of the trip. Not all of them had sex, so they say, but they at least admit to getting their cock sucked.

When the shemales are hotter than the girls, what can you do?

Shit being the operative word.

qft :thumbsup

I'm planning my first trip there sometime this winter, I was originally thinking Bangkok but a few friends who know what a shitbag I am have been recommending Pattaya so that is looking like the destination. If the ladyboys there look like that I have no doubt that a few drinks in I will be checking what few morals I have at the door... :1orglaugh

I know man. I was warned to stop jackin' it to your videos but I just can't control myself...:D

I concur.

Another lie from you...it is not possible to be totally straight and do such shit as that.

so now the topic is fucking shemales?

I find that to be a much more pleasant topic...

Pattaya is a bit lower class, but if you want to party around the clock, it's THE place to go. However, Bangkok has the hottest ladyboys without question. There are some good looking ones in Pattaya, but compared to Bangkok... well, there is no comparison. Also the number of hot ones packed into a single location is much greater in Bangkok as well.

I suggest spending 1 - 2 nights in Bangkok, then head to Pattaya. Two totally different places.

Says the Black Ops purple heart vet with Pentagon contacts who faked his own death on a porn message board. :thumbsup

That's what every conversation eventually leads to if you let it.

Pretty sure Abraham Lincoln said that.

Any proof? :helpme

Same person? Or just using a fake image for her cam profile?

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