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ElleSorbet 07-26-2012 09:10 AM

King of Kong: Pocket Full of Quarters
American Movie
Jesus Camp
The Devil and Daniel Johnson
Darkon - (LARPing doc)
The Dungeon Masters - (another LARPing doc)
I Think We're Alone Now - (people that stalked singer Tiffany)
Married to the Eiffel Tower - (object sexuals doc)
BBC doc - My Car is My Lover - (object sexuals doc)
Graphic Sexual Horror - (doc on bdsm site Insex & the people behind it)
Winnebago Man
Superheroes
Word Wars
The Rock-aFire Explosion


One of the next docs I'm going to watch is 'Life 2.0' - about people entrenched in Second Life, and I would love to get my hands on a copy of 'Shut Up, Little Man'.

marcop 07-26-2012 09:18 AM

Bill Cunningham, New York: http://www.zeitgeistfilms.com/billcunninghamnewyork/

He's an 80-something NY Times photographer who mostly cycles around Manhattan and shoots street fashion.

ElleSorbet 07-26-2012 09:33 AM

Freakonomics was a decent one too

PR_Glen 07-26-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19080451)
"This video tells the story of how Dr. Burzynski, and the patients his therapy has cured of what are normally terminal cancers, have fought the FDA and the big drug companies who have continually and systematically tried to discredit and punish a man who's only purpose in life has been to develop and perfect a life-giving and non-toxic cure for the disease of the 20th century. "

Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business FDA Tyranny

some coles notes on this for any 'believers' There was a reason his therapy was never approved.. it has never saved anyone and was complete bullshit. This guy harmed more people into thinking they can be cured and they died than he ever 'saved'.

he is an evil human being who collects money off desperate people who watch videos to learn things.

btw, documentaries? are big business too and are not held accountable for anything these days, so they can say whatever the hell they want and go bankrupt before they can get properly sued.

GAMEFINEST 07-26-2012 09:59 AM

inside job

was sick.

DTK 07-26-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19080544)
It shows what the FDA will do to protect the Cancer industry, if one looks back over the years you discover that people have had their labs burned down and some have even been murdered. It's vital for everyone to believe this 'Cancer Research' myth, that it's an illness that's very difficult to cure.

"Everyone should know that most cancer research is largely a fraud and that the major cancer research organisations are derelict in their duties to the people who support them."

Linus Pauling PhD (Two-time Nobel Prize winner)

It's FAR more lucrative to keep people chronically sick than actually, you know, heal them.

Quentin 07-26-2012 10:47 AM

I liked Secrecy quite a bit; it's pretty clear which way the filmmakers' opinion hews, but they did a good job of including people with a variety of perspectives and giving opposing views fair consideration.

Protocols of Zion is excellent IMO -- and not what you might think based on the title, alone. The director (Mark Levin) sets out to understand the roots of modern antisemitism, and unlike a lot of other reporting I've seen on the topic, he really gives the subjects of his reporting a chance to speak their minds, no matter how ridiculous their opinions might be, or how offensive and hateful they might be toward Jews, or even toward Levin, personally. His emotional discipline and sense of fair play, especially toward those who would never extend him the same courtesy, is downright impressive.

Heavy Metal in Baghdad is great, too. It really underscores how music cuts across cultural and social divisions, and breaks your heart at the same time. Watching these poor guys just trying to life their lives and do what they love while the chaos of war unfolds all around them... that's some seriously humbling shit.

Si 07-26-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 19082192)
I liked Secrecy quite a bit; it's pretty clear which way the filmmakers' opinion hews, but they did a good job of including people with a variety of perspectives and giving opposing views fair consideration.

Protocols of Zion is excellent IMO -- and not what you might think based on the title, alone. The director (Mark Levin) sets out to understand the roots of modern antisemitism, and unlike a lot of other reporting I've seen on the topic, he really gives the subjects of his reporting a chance to speak their minds, no matter how ridiculous their opinions might be, or how offensive and hateful they might be toward Jews, or even toward Levin, personally. His emotional discipline and sense of fair play, especially toward those who would never extend him the same courtesy, is downright impressive.

Heavy Metal in Baghdad is great, too. It really underscores how music cuts across cultural and social divisions, and breaks your heart at the same time. Watching these poor guys just trying to life their lives and do what they love while the chaos of war unfolds all around them... that's some seriously humbling shit.

They sound good to :thumbsup Especially if they are unbiased.

Quentin 07-26-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 19082540)
They sound good to :thumbsup Especially if they are unbiased.

I'm not sure there's really any such thing as a truly unbiased documentary, but I do think it's possible for documentarians to give perspectives other than their own a fair shake, and both Secrecy and Protocols of Zion do that, IMO.

Heavy Metal in Baghdad is a different kind of documentary from the other two. It's not particularly political, doesn't ask the viewer to take a side in terms of what is happening in the war, or anything like that. It's just sort of a 'slice of life' from these heavy metal fans/musicians, who just happen to be living in a war zone while trying to make the music they love -- music that is illegal to play in quite a few of the countries that surround Iraq, making the idea of going on tour in the area sort of tricky. ;-)

escorpio 07-26-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 19081876)
Anything by Nick Bloomfield.

Oops. That's Broomfield. He made great docs on Aileen Wuoronos, Heidi Fleiss and Kurt and Courtney Cobain.

Sunny Day 07-26-2012 02:52 PM

Too Fucking Many
 
I go to the library and the have so many cool ones, I'll need to live about 400 more years just to watch them all.
Guy with the tornado car was cool, since I'm in Kansas. Betting an F-5 won't strike again soon in the same path.

Si 07-26-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 19082576)
I'm not sure there's really any such thing as a truly unbiased documentary, but I do think it's possible for documentarians to give perspectives other than their own a fair shake, and both Secrecy and Protocols of Zion do that, IMO.

Heavy Metal in Baghdad is a different kind of documentary from the other two. It's not particularly political, doesn't ask the viewer to take a side in terms of what is happening in the war, or anything like that. It's just sort of a 'slice of life' from these heavy metal fans/musicians, who just happen to be living in a war zone while trying to make the music they love -- music that is illegal to play in quite a few of the countries that surround Iraq, making the idea of going on tour in the area sort of tricky. ;-)

Cool, atleast having 2 sides of a story or different peoples views makes it less biased or skewed I suppose :thumbsup

That Baghdad one sounds interesting and different :)

DTK 07-26-2012 04:49 PM

Surprised nobody's mentioned it.. An Inconvenient Truth


Freaky_Akula 07-26-2012 04:57 PM

The An Inconvenient Truth is that Al Gore is making a lot of money with that carbon credit trading scam.

DTK 07-26-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 19082910)
The An Inconvenient Truth is that Al Gore is making a lot of money with that carbon credit trading scam.

That doesn't change the message of the documentary.

Freaky_Akula 07-26-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19082934)
That doesn't change the message of the documentary.

It should make you question the intentions of the makers.

DTK 07-26-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 19082953)
It should make you question the intentions of the makers.

The intentions of the makers were to present the facts that 1) the planet is heating up at an unprecedented rate due to human activity, and 2) 97-98% of climate scientists believe this (source: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/20...87107.abstract).

That's it in a nutshell. Try watching it with an open mind. If it would help, pretend it's someone other than algore doing the presentation.

Makaveli 07-26-2012 05:48 PM

Big River Man was the last one I watched.

Freaky_Akula 07-26-2012 06:01 PM

Climate change is caused by changes in the Earth's orbit, changes in the tilt angle of the Earth's axis of rotation, volcanoes, solar flares and other solar activity, THC (thermohaline circulation), plate tectonics and other complex processes. Climate change is not caused by humans. It was not started by humans. It was happening long before we started recording temperatures.

Jayvis 07-26-2012 06:04 PM

Some recent ones I rented on Itunes while traveling:



It looks like its some conspiracy theory bullcrap doc... it's not at all.
86% on Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_big_fix/



If you grew up playing videogames, you'll enjoy this. If you're a programmer yourself and make your own websites, you'll really enjoy it. I've never seen people so passionate about their art form.
96% on Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/indi...he_movie_2012/



Never thought about giving this a shot but it was on Netflix Instawatch (think it still is) and I had watched most of the other docs available... GREAT story. A rags to "riches" story. If you're a self starter, this is a good one.
94% on Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bein...teers_journey/


I've got more if anyone is interested. Docs are the only thing I ever watch.

mikesouth 07-26-2012 06:05 PM

The Last Waltz or any rock doc from Scorsese

I liked "Dreams With Sharp teeth"

Drugs Inc

Heckler

Masterminds

Jayvis 07-26-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19082892)
Surprised nobody's mentioned it.. An Inconvenient Truth



A nice counter argument doc was made against this... I'm no where near an expert on the subject but both are worth watching to get differing view points. It's called "Cool It" and it's on Netflix instant.


wehateporn 07-26-2012 06:30 PM

We do have to be very careful with Climate Change now that it's being used politically, ever since the United Nations think tank 'The Club of Rome' admitted it was a good way to scam their global taxes in place. That's not to say there can't be some truth in Climate Change, whether natural or man-made, but there's a giant swindle planned and we have to prevent it. Al Gore is a Club of Rome board member, so he's one of the con men we have to watch out for.

Here's what the Club of Rome planned in one of their documents

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome Publication, The First Global Revolution

And now it's clear that they selected Global Warming (which they now call Climate Change) as their technique for bringing in their taxes. That's what the UN climate change treaties are really about, imagine if they were honest and said "We want a world government so we need taxes for all nations"...nobody would accept this, so that's why we need to be scammed with an outside threat, which is relevant to every nation.

We do need to look after the planet, very true, but there have been unlimited amounts of money pumped towards anyone who is willing to 'prove' that the Earth is heating up. If scientists start proving that it's not heating up, or that it's cooling down, they don't get any further funding. The Rockefeller's fund Climate Change, it's an investment to eventually get their global taxes in place to fund the United Nations.

So yes, we do need to look after the planet, but we have to keep the United Nations/Bankers/Club of Rome (including Al Gore) well away from this when proposing any solutions/improvements.

DTK 07-26-2012 06:48 PM

Wehateporn - I hear ya and agree with what your saying regarding agendas. Regardless, look at the data & the fact that nearly all climate scientists agree that climate change is man-made this time around.

Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.

Which brings me to my next recommendation:


u-Bob 07-26-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19083069)
Wehateporn - I hear ya and agree with what your saying regarding agendas. Regardless, look at the data & the fact that nearly all climate scientists agree that climate change is man-made this time around.

No offense, but that's a logical fallacy. Whether or not something is true or false does not depend on the amount of people who believe it to be true or false.

There used to be a time that the majority of the experts all agreed that the earth was flat.

Given the fact that we have only one earth, it's impossible to do controlled tests of the man made global warming hypotheses and it is thus by definition impossible to empirically prove (or disprove) them.

Taking into account the complexity of this planet and everything that happens in, on and around it and taking into account our (still) limited knowledge and understanding of the many forces that are at play (most of them a lot older than life itself on this planet), I'd say it would be very imprudent to jump to conclusions. Especially 'conclusions' spread by those who would benefit financially from the so called solutions to the so called problem they claim to have identified.

When I first started going to school, the teacher told us a new ice age was coming. A few years later, another teacher warned us that instead of global cooling we would have global warming and that by the year 2000 cities like New York would be swallowed by the sea.

It's now 2012 and New Yorkers still aren't going to work by rubber boat. And I see they've changed the name of the 'problem' again. This time from 'global warming' to 'climate change'.

Freaky_Akula 07-26-2012 07:37 PM

You could tell climate change was not really a problem when they suggested a tax as the solution.

DTK 07-26-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 19083104)
No offense, but that's a logical fallacy. Whether or not something is true or false does not depend on the amount of people who believe it to be true or false.

There used to be a time that the majority of the experts all agreed that the earth was flat.

None taken, and (no offense to you either) imo you're on some shaky logical ground yourself. Making comparisons to the 'experts' of (let's say) 500 years is pretty weak. I mean, i don't think i even need to go into any depth about how far science has come since then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 19083104)
When I first started going to school, the teacher told us a new ice age was coming. A few years later, another teacher warned us that instead of global cooling we would have global warming and that by the year 2000 cities like New York would be swallowed by the sea.

You know what? They were both right.

Teacher #1 was right in that every time in Earth's history where CO2 levels reached a critical point, an ice age ensued very shortly thereafter.

Obviously his timing was off, but Teacher #2 was right as well in that we are already seeing sea levels rise due to the rapid melting of the polar ice caps and other huge ice formations like the Greenland polar ice sheets.

Interesting article that ties the two http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/ja...onment.science. it's an older article, but still.

leg4 07-26-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19080451)
"This video tells the story of how Dr. Burzynski, and the patients his therapy has cured of what are normally terminal cancers, have fought the FDA and the big drug companies who have continually and systematically tried to discredit and punish a man who's only purpose in life has been to develop and perfect a life-giving and non-toxic cure for the disease of the 20th century. "

Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business FDA Tyranny


That's a big time important video.

huey 07-26-2012 11:56 PM

Smartest guys in the room. The Enron story. Capitalism at it's best.

Danny B 07-27-2012 12:54 AM

Vice has been putting a ton of interesting/crazy docs on youtube recently.
https://youtube.com/user/vice/videos?sort=p&view=0

This one got under my skin

Si 07-27-2012 09:07 AM

Just finished watching Forks over Knives, I tried a similar diet before and failed, time to try again :thumbsup Really well done doc, more people need to see it.

digi 07-27-2012 12:10 PM

Senna is a must see

Si 07-27-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by digi (Post 19084660)
Senna is a must see

Yes! Thanks for reminding me, put that down on a list somewhere a while ago and keep forgetting to watch it :thumbsup

DTK 07-27-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by digi (Post 19084660)
Senna is a must see

This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

waltgator 07-27-2012 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19085126)
This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

as much as i love F1 racing, i have yet to see this & hear great things about it...gonna have to watch it asap!

DTK 07-27-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by waltgator (Post 19085185)
as much as i love F1 racing, i have yet to see this & hear great things about it...gonna have to watch it asap!

The blu-ray version i found online is about an hour longer than the theatrical version. they had to cut it quite a bit to appeal to a wider audience. One guy asked the director about that, and he said something like 'if the longer version was our theatrical release, we never would have had a theatrical release' lol.

Si 07-27-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19085126)
This was awesome! Saw it in the theater, and the director was there and he held a Q&A session afterward. Very cool.

Just wondering, because of your posts in this thread so far seem a little weird to me, and I put weight on to me because I have just re-read them twice and don't get your perspective.

What I mean by that is your posts are making it sound like global warming is true but people are making it out to be a myth, yet various sources suggest 75% - 98% of people believe in it.

Quote:

Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.
Really?

Not true at all, and according to wehateporn in previous threads it is a tax conspiracy.

So which is it? It absolutely cannot be both.......

Unless that is the median health care bullshit which fails when governments and insurance Cos become involved.

waltgator 07-27-2012 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19085330)
The blu-ray version i found online is about an hour longer than the theatrical version. they had to cut it quite a bit to appeal to a wider audience. One guy asked the director about that, and he said something like 'if the longer version was our theatrical release, we never would have had a theatrical release' lol.

awesome! Thanks! ill be shopping for that this weekend! good to know! :thumbsup:thumbsup

DTK 07-27-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Si (Post 19085357)
Just wondering, because of your posts in this thread so far seem a little weird to me, and I put weight on to me because I have just re-read them twice and don't get your perspective.

What I mean by that is your posts are making it sound like global warming is true but people are making it out to be a myth, yet various sources suggest 75% - 98% of people believe in it.

Fair questions. Actually, I'm pointing out that 98% of climate scientists believe that not only is global warming real, it is man-made this time around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Si (Post 19085357)

Quote:

Also, in terms of those 2% that don't agree...keep in mind that people like the Koch Brothers endow professorships at universities, and make sure that man-made climate change doubters get those gigs. That's not speculation, that's fact.
Really?

Not true at all, and according to wehateporn in previous threads it is a tax conspiracy.

So which is it? It absolutely cannot be both.......

Unless that is the median health care bullshit which fails when governments and insurance Cos become involved.

It absolutely can be both.

For instance, Koch Industries is the second-largest privately owned company in the US. the Koch brothers personal net worth is a combined $70 Billion. They are huge players in the oil & coal industries (ie massive pollution) and the timber industry (ie cutting down fuckTons of trees). As they wish to continue making shitloads of money, they fund global warming denial professorships, politicians and 'think tanks' so they can continue raping the planet as they like.

Likewise, they also fund politicians and think tanks that advocate massive tax cuts for the very rich at the expense of everyone else. So who's left holding the bag for any taxes to pay for stuff? The rest of us.

There's all sorts of info out about these guys in particular. They're not at all sly. And they are FAR from the only ones.

Si 07-31-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19085406)
Fair questions. Actually, I'm pointing out that 98% of climate scientists believe that not only is global warming real, it is man-made this time around.



It absolutely can be both.

For instance, Koch Industries is the second-largest privately owned company in the US. the Koch brothers personal net worth is a combined $70 Billion. They are huge players in the oil & coal industries (ie massive pollution) and the timber industry (ie cutting down fuckTons of trees). As they wish to continue making shitloads of money, they fund global warming denial professorships, politicians and 'think tanks' so they can continue raping the planet as they like.

Likewise, they also fund politicians and think tanks that advocate massive tax cuts for the very rich at the expense of everyone else. So who's left holding the bag for any taxes to pay for stuff? The rest of us.

There's all sorts of info out about these guys in particular. They're not at all sly. And they are FAR from the only ones.

Fair enough will have to look that up, All I know is there seems to be stranger weather patterns than 20 years ago from personal memory, but that could all be part of a cycle as far as I know.

Just been going over Zeitgeist 2010 and the addendum(b) one. They are making so many mistakes in their documentaries it is like Swiss cheese with all the holes, it doesn't take long to find sources to the contrary of what they believe or to use some simple logic to disprove their statements.


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