Too bad, sites look good too - I'll push you on some sites when you get back on your feet. Good luck getting back on track!

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but still, you knew what shady company you want to deal with, it was not like poor steve do not do business with them, but like what the fuck are you ill on brain? and you still did it ... so i dont understand all that ass licking in this thread ... you are no victim man! :2 cents:

Hire Tam as your affiliate manager and you'll be all set.

Maybe you should think of changing the name of your program.

Call it... Pure Totty !













Mathieu

Hey Lucas...
 

Hey Lucas at no point did I say we were a victim, I am gutted things didn't work out... but not looking for sympathy... We made a decision in life, it turned out to be a bad one...

Dont expect every one to forgive us... dont expect every one to promote us... just laying it on the table for people to make their own mind up on

Great Call...
 

I love that name... great idea, will see if GFY can change my nick :thumbsup

You do business with them (affiliate links on 6bot). Why can't he?

:2 cents: :thumbsup

Lesson learned the hard way / good luck.

not aware of any links from mr, i dont even have accounts there, all banned. maybe some old links that i am keeping just to do not fuck with google. no support from me, at least as far i know :)

You knew what you were getting yourself into.

Links added

Nite All...
 

I am off to bed, gone 1am in the UK and I have a 7 am start tomorrow... Thanks for all the input, no matter what side of the fence you came down on...

I respect everyone's opinion on this, and I will underline I am in no way trying to play the victim card, has as been stated we knew what we were getting into and it's a lesson learned...

For those willing to work with us once this is all cleared up, then I look forward to developing those business relationships... I am sure they can be mutially beneficial. For those of you that think I am a dick then I understand... maybe one day we can have a beer and change your mind...

Nighty Nite... I will check back when I return from my hectic day tomorrow... that will be about 2 pm UK time so I am not ignoring anyone...

Much Love ! :kisskiss

Everyone makes mistakes, not the end of the world. Best of luck to you.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. after years of hearing nothing but bad shit about you......you are actually a fat retarded dick head, somebody who seems to have a perceived authority in this business light years ahead of the reality. You may be an OK photographer but you have ZERO internet savvy, no clue about websites or traffic. If you want to bring up the model that died in the car you were in when her drug crazed BF drove it into a house we can go there. I am sick of hearing your bleating, you can fuck off or deal with me.

That's about the best post you could have made given the situation

He mentions it in his post: Terrence (thurbs)

WTF?

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I didnt like that comment either. Though I kinda think it was intended a little differently than we took, it still sounds shitty.

Everyone makes bad biz decisions.. its how you respond to them that shows your character. Best of luck .

I bet none of your sites are ATVOD compliant either ?

He deserves some credit in my book for the sincerity and humility. It's easy to talk about morals and ethics when its not your bills that aren't getting paid. Sounds like he learned from it. No point in "I told you so's"

I don't know what to say. All I can do is shake my fucking head in disbelief :helpme

He explained how it meant it and he is right:

"and in most industrys, and most big companies, the morals are not always a front runner ahead of cold hard profit."

Good luck man.

uh.. wtf?

Steve is a nice guy, very self deprecating - who wants to believe there's some magic pill in this industry that will make him make the big money. TrafficGigolos and Media Revenue were the magic beans.

The next content shooter who tells me they are doing great by partnering up with an affiliate program will be the FIRST content shooter who actually is. They never work out. The ones I do know of that are moderately successful, they are partnerships with small affiliate programs where the owner of the program does a lot of the work themselves.

Steve, you're the Ralph Kramden of porn. You want to run before you walk and have been that way for the years i've been aware of you - instead of launching these multi site programs you should be trying to produce and run one site, putting all the work into one site. One quality site, whether it's a solo girl site or multi model or fetish site.

I don't know Steve aside from his posts here..but Mutt, that is an absolutely brilliant analogy of sooooo many people who get into internet marketing. I see it all the time in mainstream as well.

People just looking for the magic pixie dust that turns $1 into $1,000,000 overnight. A different analogy would be trying to hit a walk off grand slam on the first pitch before learning how to hit a few singles.

Well...
 

Now I did say I wouldn't react to trolls... I guess that will teach me not to get up early...

You start your post by making 9 year old insults calling me FAT, wow your a genuis, yes I am FAT, retarded hmmmm not so much, dickhead yes I have been from time to time... Your talking about internet savvy, well yes again correct hence why we've seeked Partners with the knowledge... I have never made out to be a genuis on the subject...

Not really sure how much of a Jedi you are with your escorting site... but sure you do very well out of it, well enough to post in this condesending way.

However where did you cross the line ? Not by calling me names, I had that for 45 years, but by bringing Natalie into this conversation. How fucking very dare you bring her name into this, you must be a real piece of work ! For those people that dont know Natalie was a teen model who worked for a mate of myn, but was originally shot by me...

She tragically died when she got a lift (not even her boyfriend) from a guy she knew, late at night coming out from a nightclub... on the way the car crashed and she was killed. Wow man to bring that up ? Why would I have used that, man you really are low (your mum must be soo proud) So sorry people, I didn't want to turn this into a troll fest, but this guy crossed the line...

:mad: :Oh crap :disgust

Hey
 

Yeah I was taken a little out of context, but that's fine... I am in no way blaming the adult industry at all, and totally admit it's my fuck up and no one else's... A lot of good people warned me what would happen, and there advice was spot on, I was just too dumb to listen... :Oh crap

It just however amazes me at times with certain situations where people start talking morality, when in fact we're in the adult industry and I see far worst examples of a lack of morality... and as I said in most industries especially within bigger companies morals and ethics are a poor second runner to profit...

Hey Mutt
 

Hey Mutt we've never met in person, but I really do hope one day that we do. Would love to buy you a beer or two (if you drink) you were one of the people who called it spot on back when I first announced all of this, you gave solid sound advice, which unfortenetly I didn't listen to... sorry

I agree I got caught up in the big lights, of big names... someone used a baseball reference, well yes when Traffic Gigolos come calling it was like being asked to play with the Red Sox... when Media Revenue came calling it was like getting to go to the Yankees and play with Jetter and A Rod ! Yes I thought I would hit 80 homers for the season !!! Little did I know I was going to play in the minors ! Damn I love baseball...

I so didn't know what "very self deprecating" meant, had to go and wiki it... that's weird really as most people accuse me of the opposite, have accused me of being arragant most of the time... which I have to say I dont believe I am. But thanks :)

As for the Ralph Kramden commment again it went way over my head, I dont know the back story behind him, so I will have to take your word for it lol. But dont we all dream ? It's been 11 hard years in this industry, but I wouldn't want to stop, I do indeed love my job and kinda just make a living out of it :thumbsup

Anyways if we ever meet at a show be sure to remind me about those drinks, what ever flavour you take (well as long as it's not too expensive a one) :winkwink:

more shattered dreams ...

:thumbsup

If you get bored with the porn thing then you might want to don a few robes and hit the Guru circuit.

Hopefully the real lesson is learned; those fast money big promises hollow words usually cost a business more in the long run - and integrity is priceless in any business.

Next time, Bittiebucks Steve, spend more time on due diligence and less on counting the coins you expect to earn. :2 cents:

What do you mean by this? That your sites weren't batting well so they sent you down to the minors with much smaller attendance, as in traffic?

(not saying that is the case, just saying that is what the analogy implies the way I read it)

Let this serve as a warning to others.

yeah funny comment, not sure where he was firing with this :upsidedow

well iot is a shame.

love your content.

i see you are working to get the affiliate page back, have luck :)

It was about affiliate links on 6bot to the same company you were busting Steve's ass over because he did business with them. Just found it very ironic, especially since you say they added unauthorized charges to your card. Even leaving them for the sake of Google is a bit odd considering your stance on this matter.

Personally, I don't care who anyone does business with, I was just pointing out a little irony. Nothing more. Carry on.

so again, what sites on 6bot are you talking about?

oh i see, so i had to possibly fuck with my serps cause i published months ago links to company that fucked me over later? yeah great thinking, wake up please ... nothing personal, just stop it :) btw i am not attacking steve, just saying that he started working with already exposed thieves ... shame

Hey
 

It's ok I didn't take it personally, and have already stuck my hands up to being the one in the wrong... your comments were fine :thumbsup

Hi all,

we're currently switching over to the new system. This also involves some DNS work so it will take some time to propagate.

Our new system will be NATS on top of CCBill. This means there is no PPS(the sponsor site still reflects the PPS option but it's not available), only Revshare. You will however, get the advantage of NATS and it's reporting system, combined with regular payments and no screw-overs. You will get paid by CCBill directly.

What does this mean for current affiliates?


Basically, you will need to associate a CCBill Affiliate ID to your account.
Current affiliates will need to login to the system and go to My Account > Account Details and then change their Payment Details.

Once that is done, go to Ad Tools > Link Codes. Go down a little bit and you will see it will prompt you for a CCBill Affiliate ID(you can also signup for one on that page)
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I have checked with TMM and unfortunately CURRENT affiliates will have to generate new linking codes to make sure the CCBill Affiliate ID is associated with the linking codes and place them on their website.

There will be bits and bobs popping up which we will fix as soon as they rear their head.

If you have any questions, needs help or find something not working properly, please contact us/me so we can get things rolling as quickly as possible.

Eric

That's very shitty news

Yeah got to say I was under the impression it was doable without affiliates changing the links... that really does suck balls :(

Have we double checked this Eric, maybe with John Albright and Vlad ??? Just to be sure... I thought they had said the new system would allow this :(

Another Media Revenue success story.

Hey where is beachblanketboner.com ???:pimp:pimp