Isn't that what all the Baptist preachers preaching fire and brimstone spout during their sermons every Sunday?

That's the part I just don't get. This seems to be nothing much more than a guy who believes in stupid shit (religion).

Last I checked...most people in the USA believe that crazy shit too.

Where's the controversy?

I could pretty much guarantee you that this Sunday in every fundamentalist church in America the subject is going to be Chik-Fil-A and the "evil" of homosexuality.

Tens of millions of Americans will sit in those pews and nod their heads in agreement. Including the owner of Chik-Fil-A

Where is the big controversy here? I still just don't see it.

I personally think religion is right up there with believing in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. I also think that if two dudes love each other and want to get married...who cares? It's not hurting anybody.

But I don't see where the guy that owns Chik-Fil-A doesn't have the right to have his misguided beliefs and/or donate to anybody or anything he wants to.

As far as I know, his company has never discriminated against gay people in any way.
And his chicken sandwiches are tasty as hell (there aren't any out here in Vegas damn it)

I just think that the religious nutcases are going to be all fired up because the leftist nutcases tried to make a mountain out of a molehill. And now they are going to get that mountain.

Probably end up causing even more anti-gay sentiment amongst people. :(

"First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me....

....And I still don't see what the big deal is."

-Robbie

I'm just gonna say that the same tired shit that they've been preaching in Baptist churches since I was a kid has absolutely no relation to the Holocaust or a chicken sandwich at Chik-Fil-A

I think that's the problem with our society. Everybody is so busy exaggerating stuff that it kinda numbs people when something really does happen.

LOL FOR FUCKS SAKE.
The point of this post, Robbie, is when you stop giving a shit about those that stomp on the freedom of others it may just be your freedoms that get stomped on next.

Do you give a shit about freedom or not?

If so... fucking defend it.

I have no clue wtf this Chick fil a crap is about, nor do I care. I didn't see many people at our local one earlier...or anymore than normal I guess. I drove right by it. Something about gays is all I know.

Absolutely. As I already said over and over...I'm in total agreement that gay people shouldn't be discriminated against at all.

But what I'm trying to say is...I just don't see what the guy from Chik-Fil-A did other than (foolishly) run his mouth about his personal beliefs. That is HIS freedom.

I don't see where he has "stomped" on anybodies freedom has he?

If he has...then hell yeah he should be ostracized. But as far as I can see he is just another guy who is a homophobe and believes in dumb superstitions. Who am I to censor him? That would be taking away his freedom right?

Anyway...I'm just asking what did he do SPECIFICALLY that is so bad and that isn't done every Sunday in Church by tens of millions of idiots? They are free to believe whatever they like if it makes 'em feel good right?

He hasn't discriminated against gay people with his restaurant. So what has he done to cause all this insanity? Nothing.

It's right wing religious nuts and leftists nuts who are both pushing their own agendas. And I think that the people who are going to lose will be the innocent gay population out there.

It will fire up all the religious wackos and make it even harder for gays to get a fair shake.

Don't like bigotry with my chicken, so I'll pass.

Advocating against gay marriage is stomping all over the freedom of gays to do as they wish... namely get married.

Sorry to hear that you are completely blind.

As a gay that despises the President of Chik-fil-a I look at it like this. Nothing will change that company. For every person that boycotts another will go to counter that.

What I will bet though is that every company is looking into their practices and where their money is going so that they will never find themselves in a similar situation. That is a good thing.

I agree that STOPPING them from getting married (like so many states do) IS stomping all over their rights. I think it's unconstitutional to stop them from getting married.

I do NOT think that advocating against them is stomping on anybodies freedom. Just because he doesn't agree with you and I doesn't mean we can stomp on his freedom to say so.

I'm not "blind". But you seem to think there can only be one way of thinking. I recognize that he has the freedom to be a dumbass. You think we can just force him to shut up and force him to not advocate against gay marriage.

We can't.

And as I said, in my opinion this thing has turned into a backlash and gotten all the religious wackos all fired up.

That's usually the way things work.

IF the owner of Chik-Fil-A had actually said something outrageous it would be different. But he didn't. He basically has the same stance on marriage that Pres. Obama officially had up until a few months ago when he suddenly "evolved".

I think the guy from Chik-Fil-A is dead wrong. I also think that people trying to crucify him are dead wrong.

Dear Robbie:

Wanna know why you get to sell porn for a living?

Because enough people gave a shit about your freedom to do so and fought against religious wackos... THESE VERY SAME RELIGIOUS WACKOS.

The only reason anyone has any freedom what-so-ever is because people fought for it. For a pornographer.... A FUCKING PORNOGRAPHER FOR CHRIST SAKE... to just say "I don't see what the big deal is" When someone is trying to take freedom away is.. well.. FUCKING PERPLEXING. WTF?!?!

What freedom are they trying to take away?

I don't know about you, But I feel gays should be free to get married. The owner of chick-fil-a is obviously trying to take that freedom away.

I also feel that people that are into personal freedom should take issue with that and ANY time someone does try to strip personal freedom away. FROM ANYONE.

You're preaching to a deaf crowd man. It's not even worth wasting time on anymore. I've been in countless debates over freedom, loss of freedom, the patriot act, the TSA, homeland security, etc etc etc and one thing that every single person on the other side of the debate had in common is that they simply do not care. They don't care because "it's not my freedom being taken away'.

I've literally argued in these debates with thousands of people over the years and they are all the same. So it's really a futile exercise to try and talk common sense to anyone who only cares about 'their' rights. And by the time 'their' rights are taken away too, they'll simply shrug their shoulders and deal with it.

How can you take away something they never had? And he happens to disagree with us. He can spend more than me, I can just write about it.

I suppose you can't in the pure technical sense.

But preventing a freedom that should be is taking away from freedom none the less.

alot of americans are close minded dumbasses.

i think it's scary how much influence religion by now has. especially cause in other countries people are condemned for that

I wonder how much business cracker barrel is losing. Thy have a long and storied history of homophobia and were the preferred choice of ignorant hateful people for a long while. They must be having marketing meetings about ways they can be more hateful to lure back their customers quickly. They still segregated seating by race into the 1990s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker..._Country_Store

Maybe a parking lot lynching of a life size Jim J Bullock doll would ramp up their 3rd Quarter revenue?

It is frightening how many "intelligent" people believe that shit and allow it to influence everything around them.

They are no different than JohnnyClips believing in Aliens being the creators. Believing in a magical man in the sky who controls the universe and hates gay people (even though he created them) is equally absurd.

That was the first place I ever worked and had a lot of fun and learend a lot. Did not like all the church crap behind the owner and manager but I got paid and thats what counted.

This place would close on Sundays against Mall policy and pay 500$ fine for being closed each week.

Coup...I don't think you realize I am in total agreement with you.

But I still say that the guy who owns Chik-Fil-A didn't say anything different than is being said in stupid churches across the country every day. He actually believes in that superstitious and hateful bullshit.

My opinion on this is that the most extreme elements of both "sides" are using this as an excuse to publicize themselves.

I'm 100% for gay marriage.
I don't know how either of us is fighting for freedom by having a discussion on a message board.

But if a vote is ever given in my state to make it legal I will vote FOR it.

I still don't think it's fighting for "freedom" to try and silence the guy from Chik-Fil-A

He has every right to think stupid thoughts and do and say stupid things.

Freedom is a two-edge sword. If we censor him...then we're no better than he is.

They were there JUST for the greasy chicken ... as I heard for people here ... :winkwink:

You have an interesting method of twisting shit around, don't you?

You spent your day interviewing people in the parking lot at a fast food chicken place?

Chic-Fil-A is free to make any statement he wants about anything he believes in. I am so sick of this turning into a 'freedom of speech' thing.

I will never, ever eat there. I am very pro-gay marriage and gay rights.

It is HIS right to say what he wants. It is MY right to say that they are a bigoted, horrible company that should be put out of business. And never to spend a dollar there, and encourage others to do the same.

This is freedom of speech. It MUST be both ways, or it doesn't work.

And for everyone who believes as I do about gay marriage, don't cry "He has no right to say that." Use your tongue and your dollars to fight the good fight.

Love their food!

Years ago dirty boy was one of the smarter guys on GFY.. this post reminded me of that

It's not just a matter of speech. They give money to support violence. This has been repeated and repeated and repeated but it just doesn't seem to stick.

i have no idea what everyone is talking about

Cliff note....

Chick-Fil-A "hates" gays or same sex marriage, many people are supporting this.

Looks like their winning so far, many people are mad.

So, much ado about nothing?

Oh, nvm. Guess there was more to the story that the article by Mark Washburn was letting on. Maybe he doesn't know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Ch...ge_controversy

Yep. Saying the same ignorant shit that is going to be said in every fundamentalist church in America this Sunday by a hundred thousand Baptist preachers.

The guy is obviously deeply religious. Which means he believes superstitions.

I'd say instead of getting mad at Chik-Fil-A...people should get mad at RELIGION. That's where the real hate is at.

Maybe, but there are still plenty of Christian denominations that aren't in the hate business, and even more religions that aren't hate-focused or opposed to sexual preference.

both sides are wrong, & stupid. :2 cents:

Funny how evengelicals are so firm in their belives that marriage is sacred and traditional, and that gays marrying isn't according to the bible etc etc.
If you really look into what the bible says about marriage it's hard to take them seriously.
This infographic shows it in a good way:
http://cdn.unicornbooty.com/wp-conte...the-Bible-.png

Jump to conclusions much?