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baddog 08-06-2012 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19106901)
I do not watch too much TV. In fact, I rarely watch TV. However, in this case, it came from the local news - I was putting together a new entertainment center yesterday night which was the only reason I was watching TV.

However, it doesn't matter. If someone was there and was armed to protect themselves, would they have been able to stop him?

We this idea that we MUST have guns to protect ourselves, yet every time we have a mass murder no one has a gun to stop the shooter. Why is that? A crowded movie with two hundred people in it, and not one person had a gun? Why is it every time there is a shooting in a mall no one has a gun to stop him?

Our right to defend ourselves is the primary reason shooters get guns.
I am relatively confident that conscientious gun owners are not in the habit of bringing their weapons to the cinema; however, that could change.

Evil Chris 08-06-2012 11:17 AM

Rochard 08-06-2012 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19106905)
I am relatively confident that conscientious gun owners are not in the habit of bringing their weapons to the cinema; however, that could change.
Bingo. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of self defense then huh?

In order to defend yourself with a firearm, you need to carry your firearm with you 24/7. This means you need to take it to the mall, church, the public pool, and carry it around with you when your in the back yard chopping wood.

Without your firearm, you cannot defend yourself.

Freaky_Akula 08-06-2012 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19106666)
Not at all. We need the Army for obvious reasons.
To invade oil rich countries and defend the American Empire?

Bill8 08-06-2012 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19106357)
Its starting to sound like that's exactly the situation, the guy was a right wing white supremacist. I say arrest Michelle Bachmann and charge her with aiding and abetting a terrorist.
I know, wow, that's a level of dumb that you really just do not expect to see, even in the american right wing.

I mean that is just SPECTACULARLY DUMB. That is glen beck watching dumb. limbaugh dumb.

so dumb that if the right wing had any self respect, which they dont, they'd be apologizing for just how dumb one of their people actually was.

and they'd make sure the white power types were kicked out of their circles.

another thing that ain't gonna happen. the right depends on covert racism.

and them sikhs do wear turbans.

added - but saying arrest bachmann does not make sense. the right can legitimately be ashamed, but, talking about arresting political personalities is not legitimte.

meanguy7 08-06-2012 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19105436)
Meanwhile, in every country that bans guns, no gun massacres occurred. I just can't figure out the solution to this one.
You might want to check your facts if you are not being funny. Mexico comes to mind...

WarChild 08-06-2012 03:59 PM
I wouldn't pay much attention to baddog. I think over the years he's proved himself to be about as smart as his Bum Fights look presents. Although I guess he did manage to come up with the ever so clever marketing scheme of "Got WebHost?" all by himself. Well, sort of anyways. Perhaps it's just best if you stick to taking pictures of your food.

I think he's just upset that not only is the average Canadian much safer than the average American, but also worth more too.

helterskelter808 08-06-2012 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by meanguy7 (Post 19107406)
You might want to check your facts if you are not being funny. Mexico comes to mind...
Why does Mexico always come to mind for gun nuts? Is Mexico really the standard the USA should be comparing itself to?

Bill8 08-06-2012 04:11 PM
ya notice how none of the wingnuts are jumping in to claim this shooting happened because the guy couldn't get pussy?

but that was their first tactic with that joker asshole.

altho it was probably true in both cases.

Bill8 08-06-2012 04:22 PM
oh - and another person who appears to have read 2083 and adopted it's idea.

I predict more 2083 inspired shootings. it's brilliant tactics, if you are interested in that kind of thing.

Freaky_Akula 08-06-2012 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill8 (Post 19107493)
wingnuts
Why do you call everyone who does not agree with you a 'wingnut'?

Vendzilla 08-06-2012 04:49 PM
UK has stiff gun control laws. still pretty violent
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tatistics.html

Bill8 08-06-2012 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula (Post 19107529)
Why do you call everyone who does not agree with you a 'wingnut'?
actually I only call a certain class of rightwingers wingnuts.

and I do it to mock the way wingnuts call everyone names.

ya see, wingnuts can dish it out, but they cant take it. and they are always using cheap tactics to try to distract people from the core elements of an argument.

like you are trying to distract people from the INCREDIBLE DUMBNESS of a neonazi shooting up a sikh temple, which is my point.

if you dont want to be called a wingnut, dont use namecalling, and I'll take that as the sign that we have returned to civility and I can stop.

Rochard 08-06-2012 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19107551)
UK has stiff gun control laws. still pretty violent
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tatistics.html
Um, seems to me crime is going down in the UK:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-england-wales

TheSquealer 08-06-2012 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 19107482)
I wouldn't pay much attention to baddog. I think over the years he's proved himself to be about as smart as his Bum Fights look presents. Although I guess he did manage to come up with the ever so clever marketing scheme of "Got WebHost?" all by himself. Well, sort of anyways. Perhaps it's just best if you stick to taking pictures of your food.

I think he's just upset that not only is the average Canadian much safer than the average American, but also worth more too.
I dunno. I think he's made a pretty solid argument that Canadians are teetering on the verge of a mass national suicide but limited access to guns prevents this.

davidd 08-06-2012 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19105791)
You'll notice more than half are suicides, so not as bad as it looks. Like my dad always told me, you can prove anything you want with stats. Just how you use them.

Most (almost all) of Canada's are suicides; that has to say something about living there.
And I suspect most of those suicides in Canada are Americans...

I know every time I am in Canada I want to empty my brains on the wall.

The cause of most suicides:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hMG-PRxy0QU

Barefootsies 08-09-2012 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 19107482)
I wouldn't pay much attention to baddog. I think over the years he's proved himself to be about as smart as his Bum Fights look presents. Although I guess he did manage to come up with the ever so clever marketing scheme of "Got WebHost?" all by himself. Well, sort of anyways. Perhaps it's just best if you stick to taking pictures of your food.

PornoMonster 08-09-2012 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19107735)
Um, seems to me crime is going down in the UK:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-england-wales
Didn't Murders in the USA go down last year also?

PornoMonster 08-09-2012 09:45 AM
n the past 20 years, for instance, the murder rate in the United States has dropped by almost half, from 9.8 per 100,000 people in 1991 to 5.0 in 2009. Meanwhile, robberies were down 10 percent in 2010 from the year before and 8 percent in 2009.

PornoMonster 08-09-2012 09:48 AM
(Reuters) - Violent crime in the United States fell for a fifth straight year in 2011 and the number of murders dropped to the lowest in more than four decades, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Monday.

U.S. violent crime rates, which include murder, rape, robbery and assault, dropped 4 percent in 2011 from the previous year, according to the FBI's Preliminary Annual Uniform Crime Report.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85A1JZ20120611


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