Damn right, its not that everyone needs a gun, we all need a John McClane with us :1orglaugh He's great at taking out crazies.

Its starting to sound like that's exactly the situation, the guy was a right wing white supremacist. I say arrest Michelle Bachmann and charge her with aiding and abetting a terrorist.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8740FP20120806

Photos of the gunman
http://globalgrind.com/news/wisconsi...-photos?page=0

I don't care who or what gun man was. Or what or who he hated.

My problem is that we hand guns out like candy. We sit here and say "We need to protect ourselves" while handing guns to the people we want protection from.

I hear you on that and I'll keep on saying it... way to easy to get a gun in the us.

There you have it, directly from Reuters. The guy was a trained Army veteran.

Now they have to disband the Army too. God help us if the Army trains one more person on how to pull a trigger.

Problem solved.

</sarcasm> for the slow people who don't get it.

This is the problem.

A friend of mine recently went through a divorce. He's always wanted a firearm, wife wouldn't let him, and now that he's single the first thing he did was go out and get a handgun. He's fifty years old, just lost everything, his house, his beautiful wife that was ten years younger than him.... He's pissed off, the ink hasn't even dried on his divorce (I don't think even think it's final yet) and no one fucking questioned him buying a handgun.

Not at all. We need the Army for obvious reasons. But why does someone who was in the Army need a firearm?

I am a former US Marine. At Paris Island they trained us to assemble an M16 with a blindfold on in the dark. (I am so not fucking kidding either.) Can you explain to me why I should be allowed to have that same weapon here in my house?

Think about that for a second. Do you really want a former US Marine who was an instructor in infantry tactics to have an assault rifle in his house? Doesn't this concern anyone?

Did anyone even ask me if I had any mental problems when I filled out the paperwork?

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Spoons make people fat!

You are an Idiot.

I can shoot and kill several people in a crowd in a few seconds with an armed police man right beside me.
You were NOT there.
You have NO IDEA how fast he killed those people
What room they were in, if even in the same room.

I can tell you this, the guy with the gun would of kept killing people if the off duty police man was not there ---

Then you do NOT need weapons. If you can not handle a weapon, and being prior military, that is SAD!

I can get a gun on the street faster than in a store. Well depending on what type. (hand guns)

Yes the paperwork asks you.... But that is a stupid question, who is going to put yes, lol.

This last killing was with Hand guns I Do believe.
An assault weapon is just the LOOK of the gun.
I can put an extended mad in my 30-06 and shoot just as fast.
they are SEMI AUTO

#1, you watch too much TV. #2, later reports did not say it was an off-duty cop that was there. So, not sure that is a fact

I should have expected that you did not have the mental capacity to pick up on the sarcasm; even after I explained later that if blaming guns you might as well blame the sikh for being there.

I don't really expect you to understand English the way we speak it over here, so I understand if the sarcasm went over your head.


I guess I need to add that tag from now on . . . maybe I should just add it to my sig :1orglaugh

the problem is "white supremest"
We should round them up, segregate them, chain them, brand them, hell make them work the fields.
Oh Wait! ----

Ok I am done here, but this is what I believe.

There should be a background check on any weapons like 14 days ish
The person should have to keep the weapon locked up and report stolen or sold asap
A person should have to train on the weapon once a year or every other year! (create jobs)
Do I want more gov control, NO but I do not want them to go house to house taking guns away from everyone either. Have to meet in the middle somewhere!

Looks like he branded himself

http://static.globalgrind.com/sites/...gust/l-1_1.jpg

Hotlink: http://static.globalgrind.com/sites/...gust/l-1_1.jpg

More guns is more evil... they should forbid them!

These threads always bring out the gun nuts.


Simple. Less guns = less gun deaths.
Hello common fucking sense. :)

I do not watch too much TV. In fact, I rarely watch TV. However, in this case, it came from the local news - I was putting together a new entertainment center yesterday night which was the only reason I was watching TV.

However, it doesn't matter. If someone was there and was armed to protect themselves, would they have been able to stop him?

We this idea that we MUST have guns to protect ourselves, yet every time we have a mass murder no one has a gun to stop the shooter. Why is that? A crowded movie with two hundred people in it, and not one person had a gun? Why is it every time there is a shooting in a mall no one has a gun to stop him?

Our right to defend ourselves is the primary reason shooters get guns.

I am relatively confident that conscientious gun owners are not in the habit of bringing their weapons to the cinema; however, that could change.

Bingo. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of self defense then huh?

In order to defend yourself with a firearm, you need to carry your firearm with you 24/7. This means you need to take it to the mall, church, the public pool, and carry it around with you when your in the back yard chopping wood.

Without your firearm, you cannot defend yourself.

To invade oil rich countries and defend the American Empire?

I know, wow, that's a level of dumb that you really just do not expect to see, even in the american right wing.

I mean that is just SPECTACULARLY DUMB. That is glen beck watching dumb. limbaugh dumb.

so dumb that if the right wing had any self respect, which they dont, they'd be apologizing for just how dumb one of their people actually was.

and they'd make sure the white power types were kicked out of their circles.

another thing that ain't gonna happen. the right depends on covert racism.

and them sikhs do wear turbans.

added - but saying arrest bachmann does not make sense. the right can legitimately be ashamed, but, talking about arresting political personalities is not legitimte.

You might want to check your facts if you are not being funny. Mexico comes to mind...

I wouldn't pay much attention to baddog. I think over the years he's proved himself to be about as smart as his Bum Fights look presents. Although I guess he did manage to come up with the ever so clever marketing scheme of "Got WebHost?" all by himself. Well, sort of anyways. Perhaps it's just best if you stick to taking pictures of your food.

I think he's just upset that not only is the average Canadian much safer than the average American, but also worth more too.

Why does Mexico always come to mind for gun nuts? Is Mexico really the standard the USA should be comparing itself to?

ya notice how none of the wingnuts are jumping in to claim this shooting happened because the guy couldn't get pussy?

but that was their first tactic with that joker asshole.

altho it was probably true in both cases.

oh - and another person who appears to have read 2083 and adopted it's idea.

I predict more 2083 inspired shootings. it's brilliant tactics, if you are interested in that kind of thing.

Why do you call everyone who does not agree with you a 'wingnut'?

UK has stiff gun control laws. still pretty violent
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...tatistics.html

actually I only call a certain class of rightwingers wingnuts.

and I do it to mock the way wingnuts call everyone names.

ya see, wingnuts can dish it out, but they cant take it. and they are always using cheap tactics to try to distract people from the core elements of an argument.

like you are trying to distract people from the INCREDIBLE DUMBNESS of a neonazi shooting up a sikh temple, which is my point.

if you dont want to be called a wingnut, dont use namecalling, and I'll take that as the sign that we have returned to civility and I can stop.

Um, seems to me crime is going down in the UK:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...-england-wales

I dunno. I think he's made a pretty solid argument that Canadians are teetering on the verge of a mass national suicide but limited access to guns prevents this.

And I suspect most of those suicides in Canada are Americans...

I know every time I am in Canada I want to empty my brains on the wall.

The cause of most suicides:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hMG-PRxy0QU

Didn't Murders in the USA go down last year also?

n the past 20 years, for instance, the murder rate in the United States has dropped by almost half, from 9.8 per 100,000 people in 1991 to 5.0 in 2009. Meanwhile, robberies were down 10 percent in 2010 from the year before and 8 percent in 2009.

(Reuters) - Violent crime in the United States fell for a fifth straight year in 2011 and the number of murders dropped to the lowest in more than four decades, the Federal Bureau of Investigation said on Monday.

U.S. violent crime rates, which include murder, rape, robbery and assault, dropped 4 percent in 2011 from the previous year, according to the FBI's Preliminary Annual Uniform Crime Report.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85A1JZ20120611