I know enough about selling to not walk into a strangers office or contact him in any way and tell him he's doing something wrong or start asking him about what he's buying, who from ad how much he pays.

This is how you sell to a brand new customer who doesn't know you from Adam.

Research the company and what it does as much as possible.

Find a part of their business they're not getting the maximum return on, or a part of the business similar companies like them are expanding into. Investigate why.

Identify your solution, in products or your skills.

Make contact by opening with ways to maximise that part of their business, to get an appointment to discuss. Can be on the phone of by online chat, nothing beats face to face. If he doesn't want to meet, move on to the next one.

Discuss only that part of the business. Do not question, think, hint, indicate they are presently doing anything wrong. The time to do this is after you have proved yourself and got their trust and business. A great way of expanding your revenue and involvement with the client.

While discussing explore their business needs, thoughts and directions. They do the talking you do the listening. all the time getting them to agree to your statement "So that would be good for you". In different terminology so you don't sound like a broken record. you need to build their trust in you so put in some helpful tips along the way without revealing the slam dunk close.

All the time building them into a "Affirmative frame of mind". In a clothes shop when the customer likes a dress say "That looks great on you, doesn't it?" Can use colour, fit, cloth, length, etc.

When selling office furniture, establish points like, customers seeing the office, who are using the furniture and for what, life expectancy as in terms of refurbishing. So you can come back with. "It's important to you what clients think as they enter your offices." OR "So with commodity dealers you need something to take a lot of wear and tear." Or "As you refurbish once every ten years, having furniture that will last is important."

What you don't do is ask where they bought that dress/furniture or how much she paid for it. you're questioning their decisions.

yeah I'm sure everyone would value what you have to say :1orglaugh
isn't it a sunny day in the UK? What are you doing online, shouldn't you be prancing around in your wedding dress somewhere?

Best you apologize for that slanderous comment about Viv Thomas, Damian. According to him, you have never met, but may well do so in the very near future.

He would appreciate you to contact him directly to explain your behaviour on a public forum such as this. I'll PM you his number if you're up for it.

Proof please.

Damian knows about email marketing. When it comes to selling as I pointed out, he copied the wrong page. Imagine if you were being asked by a stranger all these questions or being told any part of your business is a problem. If you get him to think it is, he's likely to go around looking for other people to provide the solution. Coming in at a different angle is always the best way. No one want to know they're doing something wrong from some stranger who is coming over like he knows it all.

Oh Paul, I'm sorry, your post on B&B got no responses apart from people telling you to fuck off, so you have to post it again here?

Lolsome double fail!

Keep it going, this is awesome.

I'm just packing up the car to go to a lovely festival for the weekend and your constant Massive Jug Of Fail is really making me laugh. :)

Ooh, vague threats on message boards!

I love it!

Proof please. I have proved my side and even here you prove your abuse of Eva and I. You have constantly dodged giving us proof.

Yes I paid to access a UK census report to prove you lied about where you live. The only Damian Jennings of your approx age, living with someone who might be called Jen. Isn't Arundel. Now people can see my continual exposing your lies is getting to you.

I never said stole all your work. I said copied and pasted from the Internet. If the article you wrote on selling was copied, you copied the wrong one. Maybe you rewrote. Still as illustrated, it's wrong.

You and I have superbly illustrated how telling strangers they're doing it wrong, just gets their backs up. I could after I had established myself with people tell them how to do it better. That they made a wrong decision on rejecting a set and to take a closer look at it. Or even changing the direction of their business.

You fail to understand I was never really interest in selling to 90% of the people on the boards, most are people who will never buy content, most of the rest want custom for a price I won't shoot for. And those that do, buy on price not quality. The stores were only another income stream for magazine sets. The paysites were another income stream as well. We were never going to give up magazines and stores business to open sites.

Where his article on selling is. http://www.adultmarketing.co.uk/2011/10/16/how-to-sell/

And here's a marketing tip for you. Forget split testing and try MVT. Google offers a free service. You upload different versions of different sections of your tour/lander/email/whatever and google makes loads of varients of the page using your content.

You quickly can see which images/text/colours/sizes work best for you.

Simple and free.

You are fucking mental, aren't you?

Why would anyone lie about where they live?

Lol. Which is stealing, isn't it?

Google is great Paul, you can take ANYTHING from my blog, put quotes on it, then search. You'll see no results. All the ideas are mine.

You, however, do have stolen content on your blogs. Still.

Brilliant. Keep it up Paul!

Do you try and shoot yourself in the foot, or is it accidental?

Adam please don't go down that route. It's Damian's route.

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Now he's opened a Pandora's box of trouble insulting Viv Thomas, who doesn't post here and bringing his family into it. Only hope the Address on the UK census register isn't his.

a few days ago damian stated i stole content from him.

yet he has not provided proof.

also i did not even know he has shot content.

he just tells lies to cover up his crimes.

he is sick.

You did.

Content stealing pikey.

Why haven't you got my copyrighted image as your avatar anymore?

Oh yes, because it was deleted by the admins.

Lolsome.

says the man who puts a wedding dress on and films himself dancing on the graves of children?

thats another lie.

i have never danced on graves on children.

do you have proof?

you realy are sick.

the only one who should not be near kids is you.

You posted the video on youtube, you fucking mentalist.

:winkwink:

i posted a vid.

but where are the childrens graves?

in fact were are any graves.

that vid was shot near ilkly moor.

so can you post proof that i danced on graves, are do you admit its a lie.

all you do is lie.

and what content did i steal from you that you said you shot.

lie lie lie

anyway i am off out now.

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damina.jpg

Me, Eva, Viv. And people think he's great!!!

All from B&B where he can get away with anything and from today and very recently.

LOL we europeans are indeed very funny! Thanks for the laugh buddy!

100 thread backfires...

I'd forgotten half of those classics! :D

I'll buy www.markhambaiting.com and put them all on there.

:)

If you didn't steal my content, why did the admins remove it from your avatar?

But my content is just the tip of the iceberg, you've stolen from loads of people, as your thread demonstrated.

You've posted here telling people to commit fraud.

You've scammed.

And you posted on usenet asking for men to fuck up the arse.

:D

This thread makes me ashamed of being British

I'd be ashamed if I lived in Middlesborough too.

Indeed :disgust

I though BLACK ADDER kicked monty pythons ass, but you are kicking even harder

From Viv.

We know he hasn't got the balls. So I gave Viv his address.

Hehe Mike!

Miss you bud, see you in Amsterdam I hope!

Maybe I should do one with www.damianjenningsabuses.com and put up all your lies and abuses. Viv might be in touch with you soon. You do know you screwed with the wrong guy this time.

No you didn't. You gave Viv an address you paid for on a stalker site that I've told you isn't even close to where I live.

Fuck, you can't even STALK well.

If it will stop you posting lies here for even just 5 minutes, I'll even buy you the domain Paul.

Best be quick though, I'm heading off to the festival later.

I wanted to see if you were lying again. All I found was the guy who lives with a Jennifer in Middlesex.

Once you knew I had that address and asked Ben Dover to tell me if that address comes up in the list of people he's going after, you've been going mental. So I seem to have touched a raw nerve. going after Viv, who says he's never met you, and his daughter is just more of the same stuff. AVN dinner was it, what year and where, I'll ask Viv if he was there?



Well if you didn't just rewrite them, who taught you to sell? Because you should ask for your money back. :1orglaugh

I pointed out why your approach was wrong, if you still think firing questions at a prospective customer and the aim is to tell him he has a problem. you're never going to learn.

The main thing when selling is to shut the fuck up and listen. You're getting his thoughts, desires and needs, to help him. When I call someone up, it's to make an appointment to meet. Not to try and sell. Phone selling is an entirely different skill and all that I needed was an appointment.

Here's another thing you missed. Are you talking to the M.A.N. Because all your talk is wasted if you're not talking to the man with the Money, Authority and Need. and you don't ask him directly if he can afford it.

You're now on my old turf, I won't teach you how to send emails. don't try to teach anyone to sell. You're misleading them.

Well I will tell him that and he'll find you. He asked for you to contact him so you can meet him and say it to his face. Do you have the balls?

When will you give us a list of the lies?

Again, why would anyone lie about where they live?

No, I've been laughing at you for PAYING MONEY to a site to try and stalk me.

I'm not 'going after' Thomas. You posted saying you were trying to get me work with him, I said I think he is a cunt and I wouldn't work for him.

Can't remember the year, Jeremy the MD of Playboy introduced us. I stayed about 10 minutes and that was enough.

Centaur Communications, and they used the John Cleese training course.


Any good salesperson knows that asking open questions is how you start any sales process.

No wonder you were sacked as a door to door salesman.

No, the main thing is to ask open questions to get him to talk. When you used to cold call selling door to door, did you find people just stood there and told you lots of things without you asking questions? They probably did. They probably told you to fuck off.

Oh gosh. I thought it was so basic to speak to the decision maker I didn't point it out. Sorry I didn't think you'd need those kind of very basic lessons.

Oh I'd love you too. See if you get it as wrong as everything else in your life.

Your poll here seems to suggest otherwise.

Paul, word to the wise, just stop posting. Go and walk the garden or do your dog or something. You tried to make a thread to make me look like a failure, again. However, all that has happened is a massive backfire. Just let it slide off the front page and people will forget about your cock up.

No he won't.

Paul, the key to lying is to be consistent. Before you said he wanted me to ring him to call him a cunt over the phone, now you are saying he is going to fly over from portugal for me to call him a cunt to his face?

See the error?

Keep CONSISTENT with your lies.

I keep telling you, every post you make has a lie in it. It'd be quicker to post a list of threads where you haven't lied.

Let's see here....DamianJ once gave me a good piece of email marketing advice....Paul Markham once said something relevant back in 2002.....so yup, DamianJ wins this round. :)

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Are you that Stupid or just act the fool on the internet??

again tell me what content YOU SHOT that I stole?

have you even ever shot any content?

you have used my content lots of times in the past to post and re-edit. you do this often. not just with mine but others. does not bother me.

you still have not posted evidence of where you claim i danced on the graves of children. in fact can you post proof i danced on a grave of anyone?

you tell lies.

you bully paul.

your just a vile bully.

oh by the way did you ever give the laptop to the webmaster that you stated you would? i bet not.

how many accounts have you pulled so you can keep the re-billes? we know a few you have done that to.

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look folks the reason this vile man keeps posting abuse is to divert the fact that he does vile things. do not promote sites related to him as once you get re-bills he pulls your account.

he backs down on deals.

he owes me £1000 but backed down on the deal.

so what if paul posts silly things. he does NO?T cone people. damian does. paul does not.

also unlike damian i would trust paul to be around children.

have a nice day.

i will be back later.

if damian can post evidence of me dancing on any grave i will pay £3000 to any charaty you wish, and give you or close all my sites and lerave gfy.com for ever.

in fact i will leave the uk.

just post the profe, or admit you lied.

if not damian should leave gfy.com.

I'm sure he will. :1orglaugh