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PornoMonster 09-09-2012 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19177331)
Funny how people talk like he might have a dozen members or whatever LOL, and this ten years to late BS, I always say my pay sites are nothing of a priority for me as I am busy with other adult sites and "stuff" I do to make money. Yeah the pay site money has dropped a lot, mine went from 55K, to 16K in the last few years, That is a big ass drop. This year I am on pace to do a lot better then last year because I have put some effort into it and if my site is this small with such a small amount of traffic I still have a lot of rebills from over a year now. I would think he should have 1000 times more then I do.
Everyone is forgetting the YEARS of Emails collected... Oh wait, those are burnt up now. I forget I keep getting spammed all the time now by third party mailers he teamed with!

grzepa 09-09-2012 02:35 PM
I remember i was making good money with his sites, and the retention was also great.

Paul Markham 09-09-2012 03:06 PM
Reasons for selling a working paysite.

Steve needs the money to invest in something better.

Not having a go, being positive. He has something else he wants to put money into and get on to the next stage of his life.

peterk 09-09-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19177226)
Considering it is said the world has 8 new internet users every SECOND, I wouldn't write off content/sites just because it is old to you. Those sites could be very profitable again. They may be old as dirt to us, but there are millions of people who have never seen them.
yeah and 7 of the 8 are from china and india.

peterk 09-09-2012 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19177534)
Good Luck Steve!

If he had put this up for sale back in the day he could have made a real killing had he been given a fair offer. The problem is I can't think of too many solo girl programs that have ever been able to sell for a fair price. He may have actually come out ahead by riding it out for the past 5+ years. My guess is he may have been able to sell for maybe 18months profit back then. It's very possible he's made 2 or 3 times that since then.
either way he is still broke today.

jimmy-3-way 09-09-2012 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19177534)
Good Luck Steve!

If he had put this up for sale back in the day he could have made a real killing had he been given a fair offer. The problem is I can't think of too many solo girl programs that have ever been able to sell for a fair price. He may have actually come out ahead by riding it out for the past 5+ years. My guess is he may have been able to sell for maybe 18months profit back then. It's very possible he's made 2 or 3 times that since then.
This ^^^ is why Shap is retired and rich and most of us are still working.

bDok 09-09-2012 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19177226)
Considering it is said the world has 8 new internet users every SECOND, I wouldn't write off content/sites just because it is old to you. Those sites could be very profitable again. They may be old as dirt to us, but there are millions of people who have never seen them.
quote for truth. People are always finding older content and purchasing.

Tours good be fixed up and some content dialed in. Still gold in them hills.

peterk 09-09-2012 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19179326)
This ^^^ is why Shap is retired and rich and most of us are still working.
for posting the obvious ?

Roald 09-09-2012 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19179552)
for posting the obvious ?
thats what I was thinking ;))

Paul Markham 09-10-2012 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19179316)
yeah and 7 of the 8 are from china and india.
Stop posting common sense while people are deluding themselves. :1orglaugh

Internet growth is only of concern to us in places we can bill and will buy. Look at your stats to see the countries your income is coming from. The new users won't even start replacing the lost ones.

jimmy-3-way 09-10-2012 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19179552)
for posting the obvious ?
Ability to execute the obvious.

icymelon 09-10-2012 01:41 AM
He's nuts. Hire a manager and keep the cash cow.

rowan 09-10-2012 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19178679)
Coconutcontent.com is for sale. Only $1895.00

http://www.hugedomains.com/domain_pr...tcontent&e=com
Looking at WHOIS I guess that's someone who has re-registered the domain, not Steve? Someone's gone fishing. :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 19178679)
Curious as to the original content sizes as well. Some of it's from back in the days of floppy discs, which is part of it's charm.
I just had a look at few random pics dated 2002 and 2003, they're 700px on the longest side.

jscott 09-10-2012 08:51 AM
Crazy, I never would've thought LSC/LSM would leave Steve's hands

SiMpLe 09-10-2012 09:42 AM
All the models are in their 30's now I bet - Relaunch everyone with a Desperate Housewife theme lolz

DamageX 09-10-2012 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 19180119)
Crazy, I never would've thought LSC/LSM would leave Steve's hands
Neither did he.

jscott 09-10-2012 09:49 AM
Well for whatever it's worth I wish Steve the best. He was always great to his affiliates, he really spoiled them (me included at times, maybe too much). I hope he's doing well, I miss the days hanging with good ole Steve. :)

Rochard 09-10-2012 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19177534)
Good Luck Steve!

If he had put this up for sale back in the day he could have made a real killing had he been given a fair offer. The problem is I can't think of too many solo girl programs that have ever been able to sell for a fair price. He may have actually come out ahead by riding it out for the past 5+ years. My guess is he may have been able to sell for maybe 18months profit back then. It's very possible he's made 2 or 3 times that since then.
I agree. He could have sold it for a lot more money 'back then" but by holding on to it he's made that money and more.

I am honestly surprised he's selling. If I was him, I would buy a few sets here and there, add in a few new sets, and let it ride for the next decade.

Imortyl Pussycat 09-10-2012 10:03 AM
best of luck Steve, you brought a lot of fun and some great sites that made money to the industry for many years :thumbsup ignore the kids that weren't even there to see your contribution, some of them have no appreciation for what the pioneers of this industry did to pave their way.

KillerK 09-10-2012 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19180237)
I agree. He could have sold it for a lot more money 'back then" but by holding on to it he's made that money and more.

I am honestly surprised he's selling. If I was him, I would buy a few sets here and there, add in a few new sets, and let it ride for the next decade.
He probably did the math, looked at members lost/gained per month, and said sell now for X or ride it out and make Y. He probably decided that losing some of the Y to get X now was better.

Plus you never know, he may want the money to start up another business venture and needs a bunch of capital.

JFK 09-10-2012 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 19180225)
Well for whatever it's worth I wish Steve the best. He was always great to his affiliates, he really spoiled them (me included at times, maybe too much). I hope he's doing well, I miss the days hanging with good ole Steve. :)
indeed he was, the bike give aways etc, all the parties he hosted, great times:thumbsup

Ramster 09-10-2012 11:29 AM
Funny how everyone say too late, lol. Yes, had he sold 5 years ago he'd probably would have gotten 3X, 4X, 5X more than he will today BUT you have to keep in mind that over the 5 years he's been making that monthly income year in and year out. I bet what he sells for today and what he's made in the last 5 years is at least double or triple what the selling price would have been 5 years ago.

atom 09-10-2012 11:37 AM
Both Jordan Capri and Tawnee really don't get a ton of traffic. Everyone here is talking about how good the rebills are. CC's expire, even say 3 years ago, the sites were probably not doing more than 3-10 joins a day combined

Now look at the content, even if he has a script in place which makes it look like he has "new" sets and videos being added (which im guessing he doesnt, the quality of the content on the site is so poor, I can't imagine anyone rebilling for very long if at all.

Yanks_Todd 09-10-2012 12:37 PM
The approach for the purchaser is obvious in my opinion. Do it like batman, Adam West, Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, George Clooney, Christian Bale they all worked as the same guy.

Lightspeed, Tawnee Stone, Jordan Capri could be hard pivoted to be brands more then a company and specific teen girls. Replace the girls, plug them in to the infrastructure and capitalize on the fact that everyone in the biz has heard of LS. Someone could make alot of money on them with hard work, innovation and the right models.

Not easy but there is value there.

:2 cents:

HushMoney 09-10-2012 12:45 PM
Please tell me he's not doing stand up comedy fulltime now.........:Oh crap:1orglaugh

peterk 09-10-2012 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way (Post 19179618)
Ability to execute the obvious.
you call it what ever you want all he did was run it into the ground. nothing brilliant about that. as for Shap, he did the opposite anyway, he sold early for less instead of making more over time by keeping it.

peterk 09-10-2012 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19180237)
I agree. He could have sold it for a lot more money 'back then" but by holding on to it he's made that money and more.

I am honestly surprised he's selling. If I was him, I would buy a few sets here and there, add in a few new sets, and let it ride for the next decade.
I am surprised he is selling too, i thought he was making a killing suing people. if he sells the content how will he be able to sue people ?

peterk 09-10-2012 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19177534)
Good Luck Steve!

If he had put this up for sale back in the day he could have made a real killing had he been given a fair offer. The problem is I can't think of too many solo girl programs that have ever been able to sell for a fair price. He may have actually come out ahead by riding it out for the past 5+ years. My guess is he may have been able to sell for maybe 18months profit back then. It's very possible he's made 2 or 3 times that since then.
wouldn t you have been able to make a lot more money holding on to your sites especially your tube sites? sounds like you didn't follow your own advice.

AdultEUhost 09-10-2012 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19180651)
you call it what ever you want all he did was run it into the ground. nothing brilliant about that. as for Shap, he did the opposite anyway, he sold early for less instead of making more over time by keeping it.
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19180657)
I am surprised he is selling too, i thought he was making a killing suing people. if he sells the content how will he be able to sue people ?
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19180665)
wouldn t you have been able to make a lot more money holding on to your sites especially your tube sites? sounds like you didn't follow your own advice.
you should try multi quoting sometime :thumbsup

GUNNER 09-10-2012 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 19180225)
Well for whatever it's worth I wish Steve the best. He was always great to his affiliates, he really spoiled them (me included at times, maybe too much). I hope he's doing well, I miss the days hanging with good ole Steve. :)
Agreed. He was very generous to his affiliates and fellow webmasters. Lots of us had a great time on Lightspeed's dime... I know I did. So many sponsored parties, go-cart races, stunt plane rides, etc. Good times for sure.

Thanks Steve and best of luck in your new endeavors.

Poppy 09-10-2012 01:28 PM
Best of luck going forward to both you and Shannon and thank you for the memories Steve!

Yanks_Todd 09-10-2012 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by GUNNER (Post 19180751)
Agreed. He was very generous to his affiliates and fellow webmasters. Lots of us had a great time on Lightspeed's dime... I know I did. So many sponsored parties, go-cart races, stunt plane rides, etc. Good times for sure.

Thanks Steve and best of luck in your new endeavors.
That is very true, so many shows would have been significantly less interesting if it wasn't for the lightspeed crew. :thumbsup

elron 09-10-2012 02:18 PM
i used to do paysites 10 years ago with over 100 new signups/day , this biz is totally dead since the streaming porn sites came up.
today, if u spend 1k u.s traffic on a free page with porn ads (exoclick, eroads, etc..) you will make 8-9 times more cash on average comparing to f you spent the same traffic on a paysite content galleries. i've checked it on enough traffic and the rate is going higher as time flows.

Robbie 09-10-2012 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by elron (Post 19180900)
i used to do paysites 10 years ago with over 100 new signups/day , this biz is totally dead since the streaming porn sites came up.
today, if u spend 1k u.s traffic on a free page with porn ads (exoclick, eroads, etc..) you will make 8-9 times more cash on average comparing to f you spent the same traffic on a paysite content galleries. i've checked it on enough traffic and the rate is going higher as time flows.
Not really. Reality is it's hard as fuck to sell paysite memberships as you said...but buying a grand of traffic and putting up porn ads for dating, cams or whatever won't make you shit either. Too saturated and most surfers are already either signed up or cookied in. :( I douvt you would make even one sale with porn ads on a free page and a grand worth of brokered traffic (which is useless to begin with).

Robbie 09-10-2012 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 19180281)
indeed he was, the bike give aways etc, all the parties he hosted, great times:thumbsup
Yep...I won one of those motorcycles for having the most sales as an affiliate back in 2002. Tawnee Stone was so easy to sell. :thumbsup

Yanks_Todd 09-10-2012 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19180924)
Yep...I won one of those motorcycles for having the most sales as an affiliate back in 2002. Tawnee Stone was so easy to sell. :thumbsup
I went with LS Steve shopping for that motorcycle. :thumbsup

DamianJ 09-10-2012 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 19180657)
I am surprised he is selling too, i thought he was making a killing suing people. if he sells the content how will he be able to sue people ?
He doesn't SUE anyone. He just sends them quasi blackmail letters threatening to sue them, but because he has no evidence, he can't actually SUE anyone.

:)

Far-L 09-10-2012 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19180968)
He doesn't SUE anyone. He just sends them quasi blackmail letters threatening to sue them, but because he has no evidence, he can't actually SUE anyone.

:)
Actually, although I know that is the way many have tried to go, that is not really an accurate assessment of his approach. His method, while still pretty bombastic, is way more actionable in my opinion. :2 cents:

JFK 09-10-2012 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19180924)
Yep...I won one of those motorcycles for having the most sales as an affiliate back in 2002. Tawnee Stone was so easy to sell. :thumbsup
Belated Congrats :thumbsup:thumbsup

DamianJ 09-10-2012 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19181169)
Actually, although I know that is the way many have tried to go, that is not really an accurate assessment of his approach. His method, while still pretty bombastic, is way more actionable in my opinion. :2 cents:
Wonder why there has been no 'action' then? At least none I can find on google...


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