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you fail at physics and science in general. Learn to work a variable stop learning from youtube and blogs. |
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This isn't stuff they might do, the PATRIOT ACT and invasion of Iraq are not conspiracy theories, they're historical facts. They happened. And yet you're asking why would they do it, as if they haven't actually done it. :error As to 9/11 itself, you don't have to believe in thermite bombs or other specific ideas to be a skeptic, all you have to do is be unconvinced by at least one thing in the official story. And to believe that story you have to believe that everything, without exception, went down the way 19 people armed with box-cutters wanted, and everything, without exception, failed, by chance or by incompetence, on our side. That in itself, without all the other oddities surrounding 9/11, is not credible. |
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They had guys torching down wreckage for safety and also for the clean up. |
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this thread is really heating up...i might have to post some videos
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Just a reminder of how things worked under the unwavering leadership of the amazing Bush Administration. Who was in charge of the country when we were attacked again?
Click Here For All The Warm And Fuzzy Memories |
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11 years later and people like this guy...still dont buy the official story.
he needs a sit down with the geniuses here on gfy who get their information from CNN and the NIST report...lol http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012...craig-roberts/ i know none of them will read it though...because it isn't delivered in a 3 minutes news broadcast. |
Another anniversary and another retarded thread.
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Tell us, where do you stand on the matter? Did you read the article i posted above? |
It wasn't the Jews. It was the Muslims.
But why did the Muslims do it? Because of the Jews. Conspiracy theories aren't necessary when the truth yields the same answer. |
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"One is that according to the official story, a handful of Arabs [...] outwitted not only the CIA, FBI, and National Security Agency, but all 16 US intelligence agencies, along with all security agencies of America’s NATO allies and Israel’s Mossad. Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed. Airport security failed four times in one hour. NORAD failed. Air Traffic Control failed. The US Air Force failed. The National Security Council failed. Dick Cheney failed. Absolutely nothing worked. The world’s only superpower was helpless at the humiliating mercy of a few undistinguished Arabs." That's essentially my main argument and position, in fact it's what I said in above, in post 124, that to believe the official story you have to believe in something that is simply not believable. Quote:
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Are you then saying that they orchestrated the 9/11 attacks so that they could carry these things out? If so what really did they stand to gain from doing so? Power? You could argue that Bush had less power after invading Iraq. After 9/11 the world stood at our backs. When he decided to invade Iraq many of those countries were against us and he cost us a lot of credibility. Money? There are a million ways companies like Halliburton can make a ton of money from government contracts without taking the risks that a 9/11 attacks would put on them. So I still see no real answer as to why our leaders would carry this attack out on us. |
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A shame it wasn't you or Jackie Chan flying the planes, then we would have had 19 beaten up and arrested hijackers instead. Would also have saved us from all these conspiracy theories. |
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Facing them on each of the four planes were men, and women from the U.S.A. and Canada, who both outweighed them and were far stronger. Men who all their life growing up had not just sat by and watched as chaos unfolded around them. Anywhere i go in the world i always see some American or some Canadian ready to poke his nose into the business of others when things don't jive with their particular world view. It is actually an endearing quality to put your own safety on the back burner to stick up for rights that some people are not even aware of. Now my point in that tirade? Have you ever seen a crowd in an emergency situation? Heard the noise? It is ludricous and naive to think that the hijackers of that plane were able to keep the noise down. The pilots would have known exactly what was going on if there were indeed hijackers taking over the plane with some small razor blades. You know a 150 pound man standing 5^6 walking by a 280lb 6^4 guy who probably is missing the last time he got to smash someone. Sorry it doesn't add up. The noise alone would have alerted the pilots to what was going on. I don't believe a skinny short dude from a cave stands much of a chance against another grown man when it is life on the line. I could believe one plane....but not four. Sorry. |
I wonder if the fbi etc thought it was 'just a bunch of thick as shit arabs' as seems to be the case a fair bit here, that contributed to 'just a bunch of thick fuck arabs' "outwitting" the super duper americaland security. I mean, it's not like there's any kind of history of friendly-fire, and other almighty cock-ups throughout history where the so-called clever people are concerned is it.
It's also actually quite funny seeing the 'wait, but we are *americans*!!!! No-one can outwit such a clever and advanced race as us!' comments lol, gimme a fucking break :1orglaugh ps I do like Americans, so this isn't a slight on all of you by any means :) |
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yes yes i see your point. Everyone loves themselves. however do you think that the entire plane was quiet allowing your super operatives from the desert to sneak up to the cock pit? maybe they were all shushing each other? shhh...lets let these guys sneak up the plane |
Suggest you watch the film "United 93" .
There you can see a realistic portrayal of what happened aboard the plane. The are conspiracies, they are well know and documented. The "gulf of Tolkin" , attempts to kill Castro, the overthrow of the 1950's Iran gov etc. It is not too difficult to find out the truth about these matters as for governments they only have to fool most of the people not all of the people. The idea that 9/11 was a conspiracy is to think that those in power are far cleverer than they are. |
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First off, the muscle hijackers were seated very near the front of the plane, in first class. They didn't have to subdue anybody on the planes or create any noise at all. It would have taken nearly no time at all to kick down the cockpit door and slit the pilot's throats. By the time anybody could react, the planes were already in the hands of the hijackers. Secondly, while size and strength are part of any fighting equation, training is always more important. Don't believe me? You're what, 6'0+ and more than 200 pounds? I know hundreds of guys much smaller than you that could take you out in under a minute flat. Worse than that, I know a handful of girls that could do the exact same thing. |
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What?! No footage?! Well, that's pretty weird..... really no footage at all, from the airports... nothing? Huh... |
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more like threaten to slit someones throat to open it...perhaps. |
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Let me put this in another light for you: Before 9/11 how many planes have ever been hijacked? How many hijacking attempts by organized groups were thwarted by passengers? According to you, some must have been. Can you find any examples? |
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Anyway....can you show me proof that the cockpit doors were opened? They recovered the box from the one that hit the pentagon. It shows that the cockpit doors were never opened. Since the super ninjas didn't actually rush up and slice anyone's throat, the official story is that they herded everyone to the back of the plane. You can fool the door sensor if it is shut before 4 seconds. However i don't buy it. Most likely the sensor would have gone off. Look it up that is information provided by the NTSB you can look at it yourself |
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Captain Robert Wilbur Jr., 35, a former Air Force pilot who had only been promoted to captain six months prior, was shot in his arm by the suicidal hijacker. With a .38 slug in his arm and bleeding profusely, he flew his aircraft safely to a landing while talking to the tower, telling them his copilot was shot (but not himself) and needed an ambulance. His copilot, First Officer James Hartley, 31, was shot without warning by Divivo and collapsed. Divivo then turned the gun on the captain, causing his arm injury. Despite being fatally wounded Hartley recovered sufficiently to rip the gun from Divivo's hand, and shoot the would-be hijacker three times before lapsing into unconsciousness, and eventually death. Although wounded and slumped between the seats, Divivo arose and began clawing at Captain Wilbur, attempting to force a crash. Wilbur hit Divivo over the head with the gun he had retrieved from the center console. The pilot was able to land the plane safely at Logan International Airport, and the hijacker was arrested immediately. On November 1, 1970, DiVivo hanged himself while awaiting trial at Charles Street Jail. Note: Maybe if DiVivo was armed with a boxcutter instead of a gun it would have gone smoother. |
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It's a well known fact that the PNAC required a 'new Pearl Harbor' for their plans of world domination to stand a chance. Whether they organized it and carried it out or whether they 'merely' allowed it to happen and/or helped it along is debatable. What is absolutely impossible for me to believe though, is that 19 people carried out the attacks alone, without any assistance or blind eyes being turned. |
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I've already broken my own rule and posted in this thread. I'm not going to continue to waste my time so enjoy yourselves guys.
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I have sworn off these types of threads for a long time...However today i wanted a little fun. :) |
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