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Zarathustra 09-15-2012 03:19 PM

not sure but isn't it stealing stuff and making money off of it then turning around and suing people for trying to steal the same stolen stuff? lol Well? is it? :upsidedow

topnotch, standup guy 09-15-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 19191712)
I wonder how an alleged thief with that much spotlight on him at conventions, etc., gets away with it so easily.

It must be some kind of legal thievery.

No dog in the fight; I'll keep doing me either way.

He gets away with it because the syphocants in this business will kiss the ass of anyone they perceive as making bank.

Even if that ass just shit on them.

Duh.

Black All Through 09-15-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19191396)
Stolen content and tubes had been around way before him and many a biz is started with stolen ideas or other people work. Some of the biggest companys in the world started that way Microsoft comes to mind as one example

:2 cents::2 cents:

topnotch, standup guy 09-15-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19191679)
As far as I remember he was hated when his company was not that big, just right after he started stealing content. :2 cents:

Plus it is natural that well known thieves gets more hate. Its because they are well known. Small thief has 10 people who knows about him, big thief is well known and has 1000 that knows about him. So I understand why to some it looks like he is hated for success. But actually its just natural that the more known thief will have more haters, just because more people know what he does.

Well said :thumbsup

papill0n 09-15-2012 03:26 PM

you dvtimes, paul and currentlysober should do the share house thing

Barefootsies 09-15-2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19191590)
I dont think jealousy has much to do with. When you factor in that Fabian is a lying, thieving, shit stain who has harmed a lot of people in this industry, and is trying to harm a lot more...you are getting a LOT closer to the reason.


tubescribe 09-15-2012 04:03 PM

I think the adult industry needs to go back to innovating like it once did. If you all hate this guy so much make something better and beat him.

I agree with everyone that says it is jealousy. The true root of this hate stems from paysites' decline which yes was partially due to tube sites but the entire internet has shifted to free information. You had to see this coming with Google and other search engines getting better and better.

This board is depressing. I see people ask for help and go unanswered and I frequently see noobs get taken advantage of. Cheer up people. Innovate!

mineistaken 09-15-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19191728)
Then everyone should agree it's an inane comparison to make.



It's not logical in any way to compare copyright infringement to mass murder or genocide.

It was not comparing. I am sure he agrees that genocide is 1000000 (or whatever number) worse than stolen content.
It was said to make a point, how can you not understand that is beyond comprehension..

mineistaken 09-15-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 19191712)
I wonder how an alleged thief with that much spotlight on him at conventions, etc., gets away with it so easily.

It must be some kind of legal thievery.

No dog in the fight; I'll keep doing me either way.

During epassporte stolen funds times people were saying that even then mallic could be at a convention and most likely get drinks with others like nothing much happened :2 cents:

topnotch, standup guy 09-15-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 19191818)
you dvtimes, paul and currentlysober should do the share house thing

I'm not so sure that I would be entirely comfortable with using the bathroom in that household.

No offense intended.

Just saying :)

mineistaken 09-15-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubescribe (Post 19191878)
I agree with everyone that says it is jealousy. The true root of this hate stems from paysites' decline which yes was partially due to tube sites but the entire internet has shifted to free information. You had to see this coming with Google and other search engines getting better and better.

To clarify:
in your post you are talking about FREE content. People in this thread are talking about STOLEN content.

topnotch, standup guy 09-15-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19191885)
During epassporte stolen funds times people were saying that even then mallic could be at a convention and most likely get drinks with others like nothing much happened :2 cents:

There are people in this biz who, even if their wives were raped by a "player", would merely shuffle their feet and then compliment the "player" on the size of his penis.

Reading some of the ass kissing on this board is enough to make the vomit rise.
.

trevesty 09-15-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19191885)
During epassporte stolen funds times people were saying that even then mallic could be at a convention and most likely get drinks with others like nothing much happened :2 cents:

Yeah, I'm aware.

Stealing money and buying a company who allegedly stole content are pretty different.

Lace 09-15-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19191430)
No one likes a thief.

.

Simply put. :thumbsup

He's a thief. His business model is ran by stealing, and on top of it all, I believe he's a liar and loves to blow smoke up others asses.

When you spend money on advertising on the biggest torrent site in the world, that says a lot too. :2 cents:

helterskelter808 09-15-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tubescribe (Post 19191878)
I think the adult industry needs to go back to innovating like it once did.

That never happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19191881)
It was not comparing. I am sure he agrees that genocide is 1000000 (or whatever number) worse than stolen content.

He shouldn't be using genocide to make a point about stolen content if he doesn't believe the two things are analogous. And look up the last word in that sentence, please, before replying again, because dealing with idiots with no clue about the meaning of simple words is tiresome.

Quote:

It was said to make a point, how can you not understand that is beyond comprehension..
What's not to understand? One is worse than the other. Very complicated. The point was already made without the facile comparison to the Holocaust.

edgeprod 09-15-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19191881)
It was not comparing. I am sure he agrees that genocide is 1000000 (or whatever number) worse than stolen content.
It was said to make a point, how can you not understand that is beyond comprehension..

I appreciate you deflecting the need for me to point out how silly the comment was, but I'll also admit that comparing ANYTHING to the holocaust is in poor taste. I selected it as a model because it's widely known, which I thought would be obvious. GFY, go figure.

theking 09-15-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 19191643)
He is a content thief nothing more.
I admire and respect those who have huge success, but when you are successful from stealing or committing crimes against us hard working webmasters and contents shooters, you will be genuinely hated, for GOOD REASON.

Its like working for the Mafia, those who work for the mob are knowingly and willing to accept criminal money. So that actually by definition makes them a criminal just as well.

In all 50 states in the USA possession of stolen property is against the law. So when one is paid by Manwin/Fabian with our stolen money they are in possession and accepting stolen money.

I have a question. If it is known that he is a thief...why don't you or someone that he has stolen from file criminal charges?

thickcash_amo 09-15-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19191388)
I think it was the perception that his business was built by leveraging stolen content. Right or wrong, I believe that's the reason.

In the court of public opinion Fabian is responsible for the proliferation of tube sites. Also, people generally hate success. Fabians likely just the front man now, with a larger trade group really running things. It doesn't help he comes off a little douchey on the boards, though.

xXXtesy10 09-15-2012 10:56 PM

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halfpint 09-16-2012 12:11 AM

Haha this thread grew quickly

V_RocKs 09-16-2012 07:52 PM

Because he comes from a socialist country?

KillerK 09-16-2012 10:18 PM

Most of you don't remember the connection he had with Nats and PornGraph.

xXXtesy10 09-16-2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19193668)
Most of you don't remember the connection he had with Nats and PornGraph.

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Django 09-16-2012 10:49 PM

bookmarked cause I can't still post here.

Paul Markham 09-17-2012 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19191389)
who is he?

:thumbsup :2 cents:

Shap 09-17-2012 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19191457)
The day I'm jealous of that dough-boy is the day I shoot myself in the head.

.

Fabian or me? :winkwink:

Shap 09-17-2012 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19191645)
Success is never forgiven

I'm going to have to use that. I like it :thumbsup:thumbsup

MPGdevil 09-17-2012 02:01 AM

Butt-kiss score: 8/10

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Radical Bucks 09-17-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 19192212)
I have a question. If it is known that he is a thief...why don't you or someone that he has stolen from file criminal charges?

Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.

Ad-Min 09-17-2012 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19191645)
Success is never forgiven

off topic,your avatar is on thechive right now!

halfpint 09-17-2012 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 19193847)
Butt-kiss score: 8/10

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh brown nose day huh :1orglaugh


Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19193828)
I'm going to have to use that. I like it :thumbsup:thumbsup

Hi Shap :) wanna cam with me ?

Barefootsies 09-17-2012 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 19193859)
Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.


signupdamnit 09-17-2012 08:37 AM

I don't hate Fabian. Personality wise he seems like a decent guy though at times he seems a little lax in the honesty department. It's his company or more likely the company he works for which I have severe issues with. I understand that he's probably following orders and working within the constraints given to him.

In fact I could easily forgive Manwin if they went fully legitimate and made a few heartfelt apologies with some restitution while also helping to join the fight against piracy within the industry.

CaptainHowdy 09-17-2012 08:43 AM

He is hated for loving ...

signupdamnit 09-17-2012 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 19193859)
Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.

Yes. It would be much the same thing if the shoplifting laws were changed such that once caught all the thief has to do is once found guilty give back the stolen items (in whatever condition) in order to avoid conviction. The thief still would have free use of the items until the trial and is free to continually shoplift over and over as much as they like as long as they ultimately give back the items. The burden of proof would always be on you to show that the shoplifter actually intended to shoplift as opposed to just "accidentally" forgetting to pay for the items.

If this were the way it worked you could probably imagine how bad things would be for retail stores.

Paul Markham 09-17-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 19193859)
Fabian/Manwin uses the power of DMCA to his advantage.

They steal your content upload it to torrents and tubes until you take notice.
Once you send them a DMCA which you must first to do exhaust the legal remedies as outlined in copyright laws, all they do is remove the content in question so there can be no further legal action to take.

As long as they comply with your DMCA request, you cant touch them and they know this.

Your content may be on their tubes and torrents for days, weeks and months before you notice and send them a DMCA notice.

We all use the law. Think about it before ripping in.

CT-Content 09-17-2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19191383)
Is it because he is a smart biz person or is it because he is way richer than 99% of people on GFY or has lots of babes and lots of bling ?

Haters gonna hate ......

Fabian is inspirational, It's jealousy. People too weak to follow their own dreams will always find a way to discourage yours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19191590)
I dont think jealousy has much to do with. When you factor in that Fabian is a lying, thieving, shit stain who has harmed a lot of people in this industry, and is trying to harm a lot more...you are getting a LOT closer to the reason.

Jealousy looks terrible on you, yet you continue to wear it.

Lykos 09-17-2012 09:39 AM

Haters will never forgive you your success:)
They can just be jealous ...

peterk 09-17-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19191383)
Is it because he is a smart biz person or is it because he is way richer than 99% of people on GFY or has lots of babes and lots of bling ?

Haters gonna hate ......

i dont hate him, he invented nats and we wouldn't have nats if not for him and I use it for my biz

VenusBlogger 09-17-2012 11:48 AM

I think lots of HATERS here are very HYPOCRITE...

ManWin hired almost 1000 webmasters so far..

And most people who talk shit here, are broken losers that then go and apply for a position in manwin page's...

So... Fucking hypocrites suck, seriously.


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