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BSleazy 10-02-2012 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tfs (Post 19224295)
"GFY" ranks fourth for the search term "GFY" - at least up here. Google and relevance parted company years ao.
gfy.com should not be ranked number one for surfers looking for "what the fuck does gfy mean!" etc...

Go Google :)

BareBacked 10-02-2012 09:35 PM
What does EMD mean?

beks001 10-02-2012 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19224451)
What does EMD mean?
Exact Match Domain

example FreePornVideos.com -> rank stats for free porn videos

hony 10-03-2012 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 19224309)
Just my opinion as I also cut all traffic from China, India, non-English speaking traffic. Then watched my traffic drop 25% as the bounce rate also drop to the lowest levels ever. What happened 2.5 months later? A 36% increase in revenue as it's still climbing ever so slightly.

It worked. It "is" the bounce rate as I ran the risk of having primarily English speakers hit my sites and was rewarded greatly for it. I also watched my CTR increase, but NOTHING compared to how my CPC doubled.

The end of the first quarter of 2013, I won't have any WP anything anymore. So again, it's just my opinion, WP was the shit, but it's time to move on, well for me it is.
or

When you say "cut" traffic, do you mean stopped buying or blocked it 403 etc? I would like to cut out some country traffic but never found a good way to do it, massive .htaccess files listing ip ranges of countries worked for a while but became just too hard to manage.

At the same time I'm worried that broad-brush geo blocking will loose some customers, I've had cam whales from Spain for example, and a surprising amount of adsense income from people in the Philippines and Malaysia. Not at all what I'd expect.

Roald 10-03-2012 02:56 AM
So What keyword are you looking at and what is your page URL?

Kovachi 10-03-2012 05:17 AM
I've seen a large decrease in traffic on my mainstream sites that have 100% unique/quality content in the last few days. What a waste of time.

Maybe they are 'too optimized'.

Klen 10-03-2012 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 19224283)
I kicked, I screamed, cussed, you're all motherfuckers, when discovering WP/Blogs are coming to an end. Started when curiosity got me and converted new posts instantly to HTML site format and noticed they were "all" ranking better.

Then making an pure HTML site with the same exact content for months seeing it beat a clean older WP site/domain with BL from State agency sites. I was convinced. :winkwink:
Lol,a html factor is well know seo factor for ages.Some of php scripts even preformat all their pages in html to take advantage of that.A explanation of that would be how google bot can read easier html pages then any other format.And that is why i made blog script which makes post in / format.

Colmike9 10-03-2012 07:10 AM
Google started deducting for low quality EMDs, maybe that's the problem..

Dirty F 10-03-2012 08:10 AM
I lost 200 high quality se hits on one of my blogs :(
I know 200 is not much but it was very targeted. It sucks. I saw in my stats that the day for the drop Google sent 200 or 300 hits more for 24 hours and then lowered my rankings.

helterskelter808 10-03-2012 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 19224423)
gfy.com should not be ranked number one for surfers looking for "what the fuck does gfy mean!" etc...

Go Google :)
Doesn't show up till page 6 for me.

Klen 10-03-2012 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 19228405)
well, why didn't you post this in this thread before me then?
I dont see html seo factor related to issue of op.That factor is simply to get better rankings,it still wont save you from totally losing rankings.

Django 10-03-2012 03:56 PM
"follow your own path, and let the others talk" K. Marx

anexsia 10-03-2012 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19221179)
All that matters is backlinks, yet everyone is scrambling to get old backlinks removed. Sweet.
I have plenty of blogs with no back links at all that get good traffic from Google, there's just so many factors that go into how your websites rank with Google.

I don't really bother with worrying about SEO and just make my blogs/websites the way I want to make them and it has been working out well for me. I took maybe about a 5% hit on this update (the first Google update that has negatively effected me) and I'm not to worried about it.

baddog 10-03-2012 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19231086)
I have plenty of blogs with no back links at all that get good traffic from Google, there's just so many factors that go into how your websites rank with Google.
We need to bring back the rolleyes smiley so I can include a picture with every comment

just a punk 10-03-2012 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Django (Post 19224206)
I follow you. the next test would be to install an alternative analytics software and no WT.
Whon't really help while more and more people use Google Chrome or Google toolbars. These collect the same info as GA and send it to daddy.

hony 10-03-2012 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19231238)
Whon't really help while more and more people use Google Chrome or Google toolbars. These collect the same info as GA and send it to daddy.
Well at least it answers the question of whether they are getting the info from GA or from Toolbars....

just a punk 10-03-2012 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19226897)
Some of php scripts even preformat all their pages in html to take advantage of that.
BTW WP does it easily :winkwink:

Hint: Settings->Permalinks->Custom Structure: /%postname%/index.html

pamon 10-03-2012 10:24 PM
saw this post and had to react. i'm doing mainstream and adult articles, blogs and postings for clients and finding great results so good luck. its all about quality, not having poor backlinks, and quality articles and blogs, whether its mainstream or adult. google loves content, and original content. cheap, crap content for india and PI gives you poor results and often copied content. it sees this crap content and ranks you lower in the search results. 10 properly written articles on a site with relevant information and not 27 different adsense boxes will rank higher, but not overnight. No such thing as overnight SEO results without adwords or PPC involvement. I'll continue delivering quality handwritten content and take their praises as thanks. good luck though, no one has google 100% figured out.

just a punk 10-03-2012 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hony (Post 19231240)
Well at least it answers the question of whether they are getting the info from GA or from Toolbars....
It never was a secret that Google Chrome is a perfect spyware :2 cents:

just a punk 10-03-2012 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pamon (Post 19231251)
saw this post and had to react. i'm doing mainstream and adult articles, blogs and postings for clients and finding great results so good luck. its all about quality, not having poor backlinks, and quality articles and blogs, whether its mainstream or adult. google loves content, and original content. cheap, crap content for india and PI gives you poor results and often copied content. it sees this crap content and ranks you lower in the search results. 10 properly written articles on a site with relevant information and not 27 different adsense boxes will rank higher, but not overnight. No such thing as overnight SEO results without adwords or PPC involvement. I'll continue delivering quality handwritten content and take their praises as thanks. good luck though, no one has google 100% figured out.
How does Google know that your content is a really good and high quality product (say you have hired some genius reincarnation of Ernest Hemingway as a copywriter) which couldn't be written by some Indian dude who used to work for food?

Was AI invented already? Does Google read every article on the Net to conclude something like: "Yeah, that was a real good shit, but I would add a bit more drama to the second act where Don Pedro finds out he is a father of Carmelita" If so, it seems we have missed some serious milestone in the IT evolution :winkwink:

The reality is very simple. Google can't estimate the quality level of your articles (and it doesn't give a shit actually), but it can examine your surfers' activity and see if they love your site or not.

DamageX 10-03-2012 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pamon (Post 19231251)
saw this post and had to react. i'm doing mainstream and adult articles, blogs and postings for clients and finding great results so good luck. its all about quality, not having poor backlinks, and quality articles and blogs, whether its mainstream or adult. google loves content, and original content. cheap, crap content for india and PI gives you poor results and often copied content. it sees this crap content and ranks you lower in the search results. 10 properly written articles on a site with relevant information and not 27 different adsense boxes will rank higher, but not overnight. No such thing as overnight SEO results without adwords or PPC involvement. I'll continue delivering quality handwritten content and take their praises as thanks. good luck though, no one has google 100% figured out.
Of course you're seeing great results, as you want more people to hire you for content writing. :1orglaugh

Django 10-04-2012 04:34 AM
then, like Brujah said in another thread, Google needs better competitors

Dirty F 10-04-2012 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19231279)
Of course you're seeing great results, as you want more people to hire you for content writing. :1orglaugh
Indeed. So predictable these kind of posts. And then Cyberseo comes in claiming the exact opposite as his product does the exact opposite :1orglaugh

Dirty F 10-04-2012 07:05 AM
I learned one thing from this thread and that is that nobody has a fucking clue how Google works.

Django 10-04-2012 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19231717)
I learned one thing from this thread and that is that nobody has a fucking clue how Google works.
Google is constantly changing

Django 10-04-2012 07:24 AM
worth talking about

Relentless 10-04-2012 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19221222)
You'll steal it from tubes. Good luck on that :winkwink:
Yup. Tubes can't benefit from original text content. Just keep pumping out cookie-cutters full of the same dupe scene text and sponsor content used on thousands of other domains. Great idea. :winkwink:

just a punk 10-04-2012 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19231716)
Indeed. So predictable these kind of posts. And then Cyberseo comes in claiming the exact opposite as his product does the exact opposite :1orglaugh
You are wrong, Sir :)

The CyberSEO plugin is able to do both: (1) scrape and generate tons of unique content using various spinning technologies (Spintax, built-in synonymizer, SpinRewriter, SpinnerChief and SpinChimp) and/or (2) populate the WP-based sites with media content of any kind from any sources.

The first approach was working fine before April 24th (hail to the Panda), and the second approach works fine nowadays. :pimp

P.S. Adapt or die.

just a punk 10-04-2012 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19231984)
Yup. Tubes can't benefit from original text content. Just keep pumping out cookie-cutters full of the same dupe scene text and sponsor content used on thousands of other domains. Great idea. :winkwink:
Tubes - can't, but CyberSEO-powered sites can benefit from both: the video content (sponsored, or scrapped from other tubes such as xHamster, RedTube, XVideos etc) and the unique (spun) descriptions, in order to avoid the competition with those "thousands of other domains" :pimp

P.S. One my customer asked if it's possible for CyberSEO to pull videos from hosted video galleries like this or that and embed them into your own tube-blog. I answered: "sure, why not?". Here is the instruction for those who want to use such type of feeds on WP tubes that use popular AdultSiteSkins themes:

1) Install and activate the KVS FLV Player plugin.

2) Add the hosted video gallery feed.

3) Find the "Post thumbnail" option and set it to "Generate from the "thumb" custom field"

4) Put the following code snippet into the "PHP code <?php .. ?>" box:
PHP Code:
if (!cseo_post_exists($post)) {
    $paysite = 'HTTP://WWW.GOOGLE.COM/';
    $content = cseo_file_get_contents($post['link']);
    set_post_thumbnail_size( 180, 240, true );
    preg_match('/addVariable.+?image.+?[\'|"](.*?)[\'|"]\)/', $content, $image);
    preg_match('/addVariable.+?file.+?[\'|"](.*?)[\'|"]\)/', $content, $video);
    if (!isset($image[1]) || !isset($video[1])) {
        preg_match('/image=(.*?)&/', $content, $image);
        preg_match('/file=(.*?)&/', $content, $video);
    }
    if (isset($image[1]) && isset($video[1])) {
        $post['custom_fields']['thumb'] = $image[1];
        $post['post_content'] = $post['post_excerpt'] = '[flv:' . $video[1] . ' ' . $post['custom_fields']['thumb'] . ' 750 564 ' . $paysite . ']';
        return $post;
    }
}
$post = false; 
5) Don't forget to replace "HTTP://WWW.GOOGLE.COM/" with your affiliate link and pull the feed.

Wanna take over your competitors? Use the content which is unreachable for their standard tube engines :pimp

Dirty F 10-04-2012 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19232117)
You are wrong, Sir :)

The CyberSEO plugin is able to do both: (1) scrape and generate tons of unique content using various spinning technologies (Spintax, built-in synonymizer, SpinRewriter, SpinnerChief and SpinChimp) and/or (2) populate the WP-based sites with media content of any kind from any sources.

The first approach was working fine before April 24th (hail to the Panda), and the second approach works fine nowadays. :pimp

P.S. Adapt or die.
So you are saying half your script is totally worthless? Did also cut the price in half?

just a punk 10-04-2012 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19232164)
So you are saying half your script is totally worthless? Did also cut the price in half?
Not at all. I said that my script is worth twice now but I still won't raise its price :pimp

Colmike9 10-04-2012 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19231717)
I learned one thing from this thread and that is that nobody has a fucking clue how Google works.
Neither does Google. They come out with an algo update every day or two. Mostly minor, but that's too many.

Time to optimize for Bing/Yahoo..

But seriously, just submit a sitemap in Webmaster Tools and let Google tell you what to do to rank higher.. :winkwink:

just a punk 10-04-2012 12:55 PM
Everything you did optimize for Google 2-3 years ago is already optimized for Bing/Yahoo. Nothing to change there so far :2 cents:

Colmike9 10-04-2012 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19232374)
Everything you did optimize for Google 2-3 years ago is already optimized for Bing/Yahoo. Nothing to change there so far :2 cents:
Except submit a sitemap to Bing webmaster tools :2 cents:

oppoten 10-04-2012 02:11 PM
Won't surprise me if Google brings in some kind of "bounce rate manipulation penalty".

WiredGuy 10-04-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19232223)
Neither does Google. They come out with an algo update every day or two. Mostly minor, but that's too many.

Time to optimize for Bing/Yahoo..

But seriously, just submit a sitemap in Webmaster Tools and let Google tell you what to do to rank higher.. :winkwink:
Does anyone know of any key differences between Google SEO and Bing SEO? I mean clear cut things. Almost none of my sites rank anywhere descent on Bing and haven't for ages despite a similiar approach for Google which does (well, did before Panda came along).
WG

digitalfantasies 10-04-2012 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 19232867)
Does anyone know of any key differences between Google SEO and Bing SEO? I mean clear cut things. Almost none of my sites rank anywhere descent on Bing and haven't for ages despite a similiar approach for Google which does (well, did before Panda came along).
WG
I do nothing for bing... and my sites rank very well there... too bad nobody uses bing

just a punk 10-05-2012 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 19232873)
I do nothing for bing... and my sites rank very well there... too bad nobody uses bing
Yes, Bing is not so popular and is the main problem.

Klen 10-05-2012 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19231717)
I learned one thing from this thread and that is that nobody has a fucking clue how Google works.
That's because google doesn't want you to know how they work.

Dirty F 10-05-2012 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19233281)
That's because google doesn't want you to know how they work.
Obviously but what i'm trying to say that it's hilarious to see how everybody acts like a Google expert and calls the other "expert" an idiot.

Dirty F 10-05-2012 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 19233360)
As I don't see it now in your original question? All you did was grab what "you" though was the weakest point in my reply ignoring how it was merged with the bounce rate discovery and revenue increase.

You see your the type of ignorant clown who challenge people who generously give information thinking it will prompt us to just give more? - What, am I your fucking SEO internet niggar?

So how about you post something valuable or STFU and fuck off with your insacurity complex and cynicism.
Insecurity

Klen 10-05-2012 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19233427)
Obviously but what i'm trying to say that it's hilarious to see how everybody acts like a Google expert and calls the other "expert" an idiot.
Well,i was calling myself seo export too but after penguin and all these new changes....i am now noob as everyone else.Beside doing google seo was always speculation type like someone would claim how he is 100% sure how real madrid will beat barcelona tomorrow and how you should put all your money on it yet you cannot know in any way what happen inside players mind.

hony 10-07-2012 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19233273)
Yes, Bing is not so popular and is the main problem.
Well here is the thing - bing + yahoo market percentage is about equal to google. But does anybody get as much traffic from B + Y as from G? I sure don't. Most of my sites do much much better in G, which makes no sense.

DamageX 10-07-2012 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by hony (Post 19237154)
Well here is the thing - bing + yahoo market percentage is about equal to google.
Whatever it is you're smoking, it must be some strong shit...

icymelon 10-07-2012 06:47 AM
Google does hundreds of changes to the algo every year with the goal of providing better search results to the end user. If you think for a minute that their main purpose is to not provide quality content your nuts. If the current emd, panda and penguin updates are providing less quality content sites showing up, my prediction is that will change. I notice that my sites with 1100 plus words are performing well as far as ranking on google. And I am starting to test sites with even more quality content than that. My personal goal is to try to stay ahead of the curve. My point is that quality content is very very important for SEO.

2intense 10-07-2012 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 19237405)
Google does hundreds of changes to the algo every year with the goal of providing better search results to the end user. If you think for a minute that their main purpose is to not provide quality content your nuts. If the current emd, panda and penguin updates are providing less quality content sites showing up, my prediction is that will change. I notice that my sites with 1100 plus words are performing well as far as ranking on google. And I am starting to test sites with even more quality content than that. My personal goal is to try to stay ahead of the curve. My point is that quality content is very very important for SEO.
That fat bastard mutt cunt did a great job,now lots of not relevant sub pages show up for some hq keywords.good job fat brain.

DamageX 10-07-2012 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 19237405)
My point is that quality content is very very important for SEO.
That's Google's point too. Doesn't make it true though. :)

Pipecrew 10-07-2012 07:30 AM
Google knows what you click on and how fast you return to google. I am sure that even without a ga setup they have all the data they need on you.

Colmike9 10-07-2012 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 19232867)
Does anyone know of any key differences between Google SEO and Bing SEO? I mean clear cut things. Almost none of my sites rank anywhere descent on Bing and haven't for ages despite a similiar approach for Google which does (well, did before Panda came along).
WG
Try using Bing's webmaster tools and submit a sitemap.

mechanicvirus 10-07-2012 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19237451)
That's Google's point too. Doesn't make it true though. :)
Hehehe still true for a lot of people I know :)


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