I've done some really specific benchmarking where I purposely took control sites with minimal backlinks which had really high bounce rates of 90% or so and then replicated a similiar user experience (I won't go into much detail on what I did here) where I prolonged the retention times and reduced the bounce rates from all traffic sources, Search/TypeIn/Referral traffic, and got my analytics in the 40% bounce rate and 45-60 sec hold times. The results took almost a month to realize but with all other factors being equal, it was quite apparent that the analytics information was affecting rankings.

All page content stayed the same, no increase in links. The only variable difference was the new traffic I had introduced to alter the analytic information.
WG

I follow you. the next test would be to install an alternative analytics software and no WT.

Already running... have a similiar setup without analytics, but does webmaster tools. I found that time to spider and include into G index went up quite a bit. The domain is only 4 weeks old but starting to appear in slowly. I should know in another 4 weeks or so if this is better or worse.

The domain I'm testing that has nothing at all, no analytics and no webmaster tools has been crawling for even longer it seems. Almost 6 weeks and not even 25% of all the pages yet.

Its easy to assess inclusion times from the above, but what really matters is the SERP's. Thus far, I've been able to manipulate the analytics information, the other 2 cases I haven't had enough listings to try to manipulate yet however. But it does seem clear the more information Google has, the faster she's willing to index and while its early to say so, I'm willing to bet the more it will affect rankings.

WG

Long ass blog posts are just se spam when it comes to porn. Nobody looking for porn is looking to read much of anything. This thread sort of confirms that.

Right, because although G may be reacting to longer on-site time and less bounce, it may not be measuring it via analytics. It could be toolbar data, or return-to-search results data, etc.

I'd think they would have learnt their lesson by now about data privacy, but you never know. It's hard for data geeks to resist using every scrap of data they can lay their hands on.

And I do suspect the use of GA data because I recently put GA on a single page of a large site as I wanted data about that page only of a type hard to get another way, and a week later there was a huge drop for the entire site. In retrospect I think I falsely fed them info suggesting that the bounce rate for the site was 100%, because with GA only on a single page there would never be a second page load on that site even if the user did indeed click through to somewhere else on the site.

back to roots?

"GFY" ranks fourth for the search term "GFY" - at least up here. Google and relevance parted company years ao.

booyakasha!

For those of you saying it is the bounce rate, can you post if you have a Webmaster Tools account and/or a Google Analytics account. Would love to see if others are seeing the same trend.
WG

I have seen a slight drop myself and I do everything by hand as well.

I think the key to this is to just get the surfer sticking around longer. Focus on adding content that makes them want to stay or click instead of jumping to an affiliate tour. Just my two cents.

gfy.com should not be ranked number one for surfers looking for "what the fuck does gfy mean!" etc...

Go Google :)

What does EMD mean?

Exact Match Domain

example FreePornVideos.com -> rank stats for free porn videos

or

When you say "cut" traffic, do you mean stopped buying or blocked it 403 etc? I would like to cut out some country traffic but never found a good way to do it, massive .htaccess files listing ip ranges of countries worked for a while but became just too hard to manage.

At the same time I'm worried that broad-brush geo blocking will loose some customers, I've had cam whales from Spain for example, and a surprising amount of adsense income from people in the Philippines and Malaysia. Not at all what I'd expect.

So What keyword are you looking at and what is your page URL?

I've seen a large decrease in traffic on my mainstream sites that have 100% unique/quality content in the last few days. What a waste of time.

Maybe they are 'too optimized'.

Lol,a html factor is well know seo factor for ages.Some of php scripts even preformat all their pages in html to take advantage of that.A explanation of that would be how google bot can read easier html pages then any other format.And that is why i made blog script which makes post in / format.

Google started deducting for low quality EMDs, maybe that's the problem..

I lost 200 high quality se hits on one of my blogs :(
I know 200 is not much but it was very targeted. It sucks. I saw in my stats that the day for the drop Google sent 200 or 300 hits more for 24 hours and then lowered my rankings.

Doesn't show up till page 6 for me.

I dont see html seo factor related to issue of op.That factor is simply to get better rankings,it still wont save you from totally losing rankings.

"follow your own path, and let the others talk" K. Marx

I have plenty of blogs with no back links at all that get good traffic from Google, there's just so many factors that go into how your websites rank with Google.

I don't really bother with worrying about SEO and just make my blogs/websites the way I want to make them and it has been working out well for me. I took maybe about a 5% hit on this update (the first Google update that has negatively effected me) and I'm not to worried about it.

We need to bring back the rolleyes smiley so I can include a picture with every comment

Whon't really help while more and more people use Google Chrome or Google toolbars. These collect the same info as GA and send it to daddy.

Well at least it answers the question of whether they are getting the info from GA or from Toolbars....

BTW WP does it easily :winkwink:

Hint: Settings->Permalinks->Custom Structure: /%postname%/index.html

saw this post and had to react. i'm doing mainstream and adult articles, blogs and postings for clients and finding great results so good luck. its all about quality, not having poor backlinks, and quality articles and blogs, whether its mainstream or adult. google loves content, and original content. cheap, crap content for india and PI gives you poor results and often copied content. it sees this crap content and ranks you lower in the search results. 10 properly written articles on a site with relevant information and not 27 different adsense boxes will rank higher, but not overnight. No such thing as overnight SEO results without adwords or PPC involvement. I'll continue delivering quality handwritten content and take their praises as thanks. good luck though, no one has google 100% figured out.

It never was a secret that Google Chrome is a perfect spyware :2 cents:

How does Google know that your content is a really good and high quality product (say you have hired some genius reincarnation of Ernest Hemingway as a copywriter) which couldn't be written by some Indian dude who used to work for food?

Was AI invented already? Does Google read every article on the Net to conclude something like: "Yeah, that was a real good shit, but I would add a bit more drama to the second act where Don Pedro finds out he is a father of Carmelita" If so, it seems we have missed some serious milestone in the IT evolution :winkwink:

The reality is very simple. Google can't estimate the quality level of your articles (and it doesn't give a shit actually), but it can examine your surfers' activity and see if they love your site or not.

Of course you're seeing great results, as you want more people to hire you for content writing. :1orglaugh

then, like Brujah said in another thread, Google needs better competitors

Indeed. So predictable these kind of posts. And then Cyberseo comes in claiming the exact opposite as his product does the exact opposite :1orglaugh

I learned one thing from this thread and that is that nobody has a fucking clue how Google works.

Google is constantly changing

worth talking about

Yup. Tubes can't benefit from original text content. Just keep pumping out cookie-cutters full of the same dupe scene text and sponsor content used on thousands of other domains. Great idea. :winkwink:

You are wrong, Sir :)

The CyberSEO plugin is able to do both: (1) scrape and generate tons of unique content using various spinning technologies (Spintax, built-in synonymizer, SpinRewriter, SpinnerChief and SpinChimp) and/or (2) populate the WP-based sites with media content of any kind from any sources.

The first approach was working fine before April 24th (hail to the Panda), and the second approach works fine nowadays. :pimp

P.S. Adapt or die.

Tubes - can't, but CyberSEO-powered sites can benefit from both: the video content (sponsored, or scrapped from other tubes such as xHamster, RedTube, XVideos etc) and the unique (spun) descriptions, in order to avoid the competition with those "thousands of other domains" :pimp

P.S. One my customer asked if it's possible for CyberSEO to pull videos from hosted video galleries like this or that and embed them into your own tube-blog. I answered: "sure, why not?". Here is the instruction for those who want to use such type of feeds on WP tubes that use popular AdultSiteSkins themes:

1) Install and activate the KVS FLV Player plugin.

2) Add the hosted video gallery feed.

3) Find the "Post thumbnail" option and set it to "Generate from the "thumb" custom field"

4) Put the following code snippet into the "PHP code <?php .. ?>" box:
5) Don't forget to replace "HTTP://WWW.GOOGLE.COM/" with your affiliate link and pull the feed.

Wanna take over your competitors? Use the content which is unreachable for their standard tube engines :pimp

So you are saying half your script is totally worthless? Did also cut the price in half?