Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19223466)

They are in the position Microsoft was in 2 decades ago and they own the platform everyone wants to be on.

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19222520)

Aren't they just in the same position Microsoft was a decade ago, except without an operating system that almost everyone uses.

Originally Posted by fetishwealth (Post 19223929)

ummm heard of iOS? osX? ding ding ding

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19224018)

Here's a reality check:

Mac (OSX) has had a market share fixed at no more than 5% for its entire lifetime. It's a total irrelevance and always has been.

As for iOS, in 2009 it had a smartphone market share of about 14%; recent numbers from two months ago put it at 17%.

Meanwhile, in 2009 Android had less than 4% smartphone market share; two months ago it had 68%.

Originally Posted by Django (Post 19223206)

actually he said that the tablet was been made before the iphone, but for marketing reasons they put it out later. I wonder how much stuff there is in cupertino

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19224409)

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but they are flat wrong.

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19227971)

IDC. Same place that site you lazily copied and pasted your post from got its info. You better tell these sites they are all 'flat wrong': https://www.google.com/#q=68%25+android



That's like boasting about being the world's tallest dwarf.

Total tablet sales in Q2: 25 million. Smartphone sales in the same period: 154 million.

Total iOS sales, for iPad and iPhone combined, in Q2: 43 million. Total Android sales on smartphones alone: 100 million.

If the tablet market increases to a point where other companies seriously start competing with Apple, their market share will be cut down to their core fanboy base, like their other products.

Keep drinking the you-know-what.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19232626)

What? what are you saying? Dude, comparing iOS smartphones to android has nothing to do with revenue - compare the growth and revenue of tablet vs smartphone market. If you can hold two sets of figures in your head imagine the revenue and chart when the lines will cross. Let me help you: soon.

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 19222925)

You could probably short the stock right here. They need to develop "the next???" to keep going. Jobs was a fucking genius, and he is gone.

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19232801)

We're talking about which platform is, and will be, used by most people. Try to keep up.



http://www.dramexchange.com/img/cont..._20101207A.gif
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content...blet-Share.png

Figures in the second image, and possibly the first, are for the US. Worldwide figures have iOS slightly higher at 61%. Even if you're too programmed to accept the numbers, the trend is clear.

Apple's policy of trying to ream consumers with inflated prices and substandard products means it will always end up confining its market share to hardcore idiot fanboys.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19233059)

You keep labeling me that - does that help your point? You calling Kindle a tablet - do you even believe that yourself?

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19233655)

I'm not labeling you anything. I'm talking about Apple customers. And if you think I drew that chart myself and you genuinely don't even know what a Kindle Fire is, why are you even trying to have this discussion?



That's funny, because in an earlier post you said: "Business has not opened up to Apple products". Of course, in another post you were also claiming stats that don't happen fit your delusions are "flat wrong". All you are repeating is your opinion, based on zilch, while refusing to even listen to actual facts and reality.



So lemme get this straight. You're at least aware that Microsoft has the business market by the balls, and has for decades, with it's Windows and Office software, but you somehow believe that businesses are now going to flock to Apple? What, so they can watch Youtube and download iTunes at their desks?

If anything other than Android (which you seem to be flatly unable to accept is already the dominant mobile platform) is going to clean up in the business market, it will be Windows, not iOS.



Market cap. Market cap. Blah blah blah. See post #8

Within a few years of its inception Apple had gone from zero to hundreds of millions in sales. In 1980, with numerous competing computer systems around, Apple famously had the largest IPO since Ford.

At that time you'd have no doubt been jizzing in your pants about how Apple was going to dominate computing for the next decade or two. And why not, everyone else was. Of course, within a few years they had been wiped out by IBM and Microsoft.

That process is already happening again, hence Apple's desperate lawsuits, which they also resorted to in the 80s while they were spinning down the toilet.

I'm now going to argue with a Scientologist; they're far less programmed and far more open to reason and reality.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19235213)

Your arguments are too eccentric to debate reasonably. You have no knowledge of corporate practice and you make much of syntax when you have no substance. You also seem to imagine that MS "has the corporate market by the balls"; a laughable and antiquated idea.