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Rochard 10-08-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19239505)

Honestly Minte, I'm sure you are a fairly smart person, but you honestly can't sit here and think that Romney is actually going to be a good President. This is the problem in this country today.. Everyone is voting for the party they want to win vs the person & or policies.

This has always been the problem - people vote along party lines no matter who their candidate is. While I'm stunned that a black man named Barack is the President, I was even more stunned that nearly half of the country voted for McCain.

I don't vote party lines. I vote for the guy that is right for the country. And it's not Romney.

Rochard 10-08-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19239991)

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

This is the new Republican game plan. Can't win, so let's move to impeach them. Fucking brilliant.

Minte 10-08-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19239843)
I agree with you about reducing the debt, I don't agree with you about how. Romney will not do it and he's pledging himself to expenditure your grandchildren can't afford.

Are you ready to pay more in taxes to reduce the debt growth?

Are you willing to have a less affluent life style so the country can run on less debt?

Are you willing to pay more in taxes to cover the unemployed that will be created by reducing the debt?

Are you willing to get less joins because everyone is living on less money?

Are you willing to pay more for food because the farmers won't be getting subsidies?

Are you willing to stop buying cheap imports from the 3rd World?

Or are you dreaming the debt will be reduced with no pain to you?

look at Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal for examples of what happens when Government stops spending. They are in a far worse position then most, so also look at the UK for an example.



The money the Governments spent went into the system and circulated to everyone. What will you do to make sure your grandchildren aren't saddled with your debts?



When we decide to stop spending, we might get the debt down.

Paul, You need to change to DECAF.

Minte 10-08-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19239873)
There is a one of those old wise quotes that I'm sure you already know is coming.

"Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes."

Obama of course will likely go over 50% at this point but he will be the first Democrat to do that since Roosevelt..

And right there is my point.

crockett 10-08-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19240057)
And right there is my point.

So 1 in 3 Democrats "might" go over 50% of the last 3 and you won't vote for them but 100% of the last 3 Republicans has exceeded 50% by a large amount and you vote for them.

Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

What exactly would you of had him do? Have a temper tantrum as the Republicans did in Congress during the bail outs talks causing the US credit rating to be dropped? Should Obama have just let them all fail no bail outs notta thing?

Gonna sit here and tell me had he not approved the bail outs that you right wingers wouldn't still be blaming him for the collapse of our banking system?

Please tell us how Mitt Romney would have done it different. Do you know that one of Mitt Romney's head campaign guys has already been hired by one of the largest Banking lobby firms? You really think Mitt wouldn't bail out the banks? Did Obama start the wars?

Lets be honest here because you are complaining about the debit and the banker bail outs + 2 wars is where the debit has come from. It sure as hell didn't come from welfare checks to the poor.

Minte 10-08-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19240082)
So 1 in 3 Democrats goes over 50% of the last 3 and you won't vote for them but 100% of the last 3 Republicans has exceeded 50% by a large amount and you vote for them.

Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

What exactly would you of had him do? Have a temper tantrum as the Republicans did in Congress during the bail outs talks causing the US credit rating to be dropped? Should Obama have just let them all fail no bail outs notta thing?

Gonna sit here and tell me had he not approved the bail outs that you right wingers wouldn't still be blaming him for the collapse of our banking system?

Please tell us how Mitt Romney would have done it different. Do you know that one of Mitt Romney's head campaign guys has already been hired by one of the largest Banking lobby firms? You really think Mitt wouldn't bail out the banks?

Lets be honest here because you are complaining about the debit and the banker bail outs + 2 wars is where the debit has come from. It sure as hell didn't come from welfare checks to the poor.

What makes you think I voted straight republican at any time in my life?
You can spin the facts as easily as I just spun your last post. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong.

The fact remains. This administration has raised the national debt faster than all the rest of the presidents combined. The spending and borrowing is unsustainable.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice,shame on me. Based on Obama's promises 4 years ago, how can anyone believe he is going to change his direction. And his direction will bankrupt the nation.

SmutHammer 10-08-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19240082)
Your point make no sense, specifically being Obama while maybe didn't make every choice correct did not create the mess he has to attempt to clean up.

Obama has made a very big mess, All the cuts in Medical, Yet higher taxes....

The job of a drug rep is becoming extinct, What insurance companies pay for medical testing has gone way down, or has been removed, causing many private practices to go out of business and many hospitals to lay off an extreme amount of people. This also limits the quality of health care people receive. If you think that is bad, Just wait until Obama care hits!

He even mentioned cutting out the middle man in his debate, does he not realize that is also cutting jobs? Almost everything Obama does hurts the job market.

crockett 10-08-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19239991)
Funny how you like to blame everything on Bush. When it was a bill that Clinton signed that caused the housing market to crash.

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

Romney will lower taxes to businesses, thus creating more jobs and bringing in more taxes.
Romney will not cut our military, another thing that supplies jobs to Americans.
#1 thing Romney is not Obama!

I am not a Republican or Democrat.

It's called the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Named after the 3 REPUBLICANS whom sponsored it. Phil Gramm, Jim Leach & Thomas J. Bliley, Jr.

Educate yourself before you talk smack on shit you appear to know nothing about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act


Bill Clinton signed it because like every other shit law or act that comes out of Congress it's filled with other things they want or don't want.

crockett 10-08-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19240111)
What makes you think I voted straight republican at any time in my life?
You can spin the facts as easily as I just spun your last post. It doesn't make anyone right or wrong.

The fact remains. This administration has raised the national debt faster than all the rest of the presidents combined. The spending and borrowing is unsustainable.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice,shame on me. Based on Obama's promises 4 years ago, how can anyone believe he is going to change his direction. And his direction will bankrupt the nation.

That is not true.. while the numbers are bigger percentage wise Obama has only raised it by 41% as I listed above. Reagan & likely Roosevelt have the record for the highest increase.

Minte 10-08-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19240132)
That is not true.. while the numbers are bigger percentage wise Obama has only raised it by 41% as I listed above. Reagan & likely Roosevelt have the record for the highest increase.

Of my post.your response only addressed the most irrelevant piece of it.

SmutHammer 10-08-2012 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19240126)
It's called the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Named after the 3 REPUBLICANS whom sponsored it. Phil Gramm, Jim Leach & Thomas J. Bliley, Jr.

Educate yourself before you talk smack on shit you appear to know nothing about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E...0%93Bliley_Act


Bill Clinton signed it because like every other shit law or act that comes out of Congress it's filled with other things they want or don't want.

And you still place blame on Bush?

Again... I don't care about the whole Republican/Democrat thing.

GrantMercury 10-08-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19239076)
No Romney is going to spend huge amounts, He's not cutting the spending. You don't build for WW3 on a micro budget. He promised to build 3 submarines a year. What's the going price on a Nuclear sub these days, build and run per year? Plus other ships, he's going to strengthen the navy because it's too small. Not sure about the air force, still I expect he will spend on them as well.

This guy isn't cutting anything.

Right. It's wealth redistribution. The people pay in...the private contractors get our tax dollars in the form of massive government contracts to build war shit that we don't need. The contractors don't care, so long as they get our $$$, and the average joe thinks Big Bird is sucking us dry cuz he watches FOX NEWS.

Fuck Romney. Who the fuck wants more of what we had 8 awful years of? Romney's policies are no different from Bush's.

That's the GOP: "Get rid of Obama - he ain't cleaning up our mess fast enough."

SmutHammer 10-08-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury (Post 19240380)
Right. It's wealth redistribution. The people pay in...the private contractors get our tax dollars in the form of massive government contracts to build war shit that we don't need. The contractors don't care, so long as they get our $$$, and the average joe thinks Big Bird is sucking us dry cuz he watches FOX NEWS.

Fuck Romney. Who the fuck wants more of what we had 8 awful years of? Romney's policies are no different from Bush's.

That's the GOP: "Get rid of Obama - he ain't cleaning up our mess fast enough."

those 8 years were better than the last 2

directfiesta 10-08-2012 08:45 PM

Robme will probably take credit for this as well :

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GM now hiring -- 10,000 information technology workers
By NBC News wire services


General Motors plans to hire up to 10,000 computer professionals in the next three-to-five years as it tries to lead the auto industry with cutting-edge technology.


... after all, he did save the auto industry ... :thumbsup

crockett 10-08-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19240164)
And you still place blame on Bush?

Again... I don't care about the whole Republican/Democrat thing.

The blame goes on to Bush because he over spent and paid for two wars plus his tax cuts to the Rich by credit from China. He was handed a a balanced budget that if continued would have completely eliminated the debit.

Instead he goes on a spending spree like some redneck in a trailer park that just won the lottery.

theking 10-08-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19239991)
Funny how you like to blame everything on Bush. When it was a bill that Clinton signed that caused the housing market to crash.

You could pick from a long list of reasons to impeach Obama. Lying about what just happened in the middle east is one of them, another thing is ignoring his responsibilities to meet with world leaders, Instead he will go on talk shows.... Obama is one of the biggest failures this Country has ever seen. From what I can see Obama's goal is to make America dependent on government.

Romney will lower taxes to businesses, thus creating more jobs and bringing in more taxes.
Romney will not cut our military, another thing that supplies jobs to Americans.
#1 thing Romney is not Obama!

I am not a Republican or Democrat.

Pigshit...educate yourself.

Paul Markham 10-08-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19240016)
You're kidding I hope. Romney and people like him are the reason so many people are out of work, and the jobs they used to have were outsourced to other countries. Tell me you don't believe a single word that fucking liar says.

Just pointing out Romney has no intentions of cutting Government spending or borrowing, his $2 trillion might be more, might be less. How many times does a politician bring anything under budget and especially in military spending?

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19240053)
Paul, You need to change to DECAF.

So I point out the truth to you and you make a joke. You're not ready to take the pain of reducing the debt and about to vote in a man who will spend spend spend, he said so.

Government spending especially when backed by borrowing put a country into a far better position than it would be. Cutting spending will hurt a lot. Americans will not vote for it. Which is why politicians keep lying to get jobs to spend money.

It's nice to listen to someone scream he will cut taxes (= give you money for your vote. It's called bribery). Until you closely at the truth. It will mean the economy will grind to a halt because of the huge numbers of lost jobs, not just in the public sector. The private sector which is us, will suffer as well.

Many blame unemployment for the fall in sales, double unemployment by putting people out of worj and you already know the results.

crockett 10-08-2012 11:52 PM

Added to this Romney now wants to have more US involvement in the Syrian war. He wants to arm Rebels that might be friendly to the US..

Um bin Laden who.. yeah.. ok so how did that work out for us in Afghanistan.. Uh yea we had to go there because they guys we armed attacked us and we are still there 10+ years after we started.

Paul Markham 10-09-2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19240579)
Added to this Romney now wants to have more US involvement in the Syrian war. He wants to arm Rebels that might be friendly to the US..

Um bin Laden who.. yeah.. ok so how did that work out for us in Afghanistan.. Uh yea we had to go there because they guys we armed attacked us and we are still there 10+ years after we started.

There's a very good reason no one is getting involved on the rebels side. They learned their lesson in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan.

These places are tribal and clans run by Warlords. Let them sort themselves out, don't take sides and make friends with the winner. Not pretty, not PC, but damn good sense.

Still that misses out on selling the arms your buddies make. :Oh crap

Matt 26z 10-09-2012 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19239068)
He's going to strengthen the military, build more ships, well build just about everything. Get tough with Iran, support Syrian rebels, get involved in Libya, Iraq, stop the withdrawal of troops, be friends and supporters of Israel, Palestine, make sure the Palestinians have their own secure State (with or without Jewish settlers he didn't say), get involved in Egypt, make sure those who support American values in the Middle East were friends (didn't explain about equality for women). Stop the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan. Make sure China understood America's resolve. Say no to Putin. Support US friends in S. America. Get NATO countries to spend more on military (Buy US hardware?).

Romney's loose lips are likely to inspire terror attacks in the US if he is elected.

There has been absolutely nothing concerning happening on the terror front since Obama took office. His simple lack of rhetoric has likely been worth more to the security of the US than the efforts of the military, FBI, CIA and Homeland Security.

Paul Markham 10-09-2012 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19240609)
Romney's loose lips are likely to inspire terror attacks in the US if he is elected.

There has been absolutely nothing concerning happening on the terror front since Obama took office. His simple lack of rhetoric has likely been worth more to the security of the US than the efforts of the military, FBI, CIA and Homeland Security.

I like the bit where he was going to make friends with everyone in the Middle East and strengthen ties with Israel. Is he that stupid or is it the audience he plays to?


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