I'll put Obama's record up against Willard's any day. When it comes to flip/flopping, Mitten's is the world champ.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CUzEJiFpmsQ

He's also excellent at running for office. It's all the turd has done for 8 years.

Obama 2012.

The POTUS has a great deal of power, and who he or she is does matter.

Do all of your fake nicknames go away after the election, or do you keep them around for voting in polls?

You missed my point.

Obama lied his ass off in 2008. I didn't ask you to put anybodies record up against anybody else's record.

Only ONE person in this race has a "record" as PRESIDENT and "record" for lying about what they said they would do as PRESIDENT and what they actually did.

Until Romney becomes President and then breaks his promises you are just babbling on.

Obama is the ONLY one with a record for leading (or not) this country.

Just like Obama himself said in 2008 at his acceptance speech for the Dem nomination when he was running for President and the right wing was trying the exact same tactics as he is using today against him:
"If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from. You make a big election about small things. "

Those are Obama's own words.

Guess that is another "flip flop" by Obama huh?

Republicans can't admit that their guy is a liar and Democrats can't admit that their guy is a liar. Same bullshit every 4 years.

As a newly minted Libertarian (registered at the beginning of Oct.) I can admit that they are both liars! :winkwink:

Hey, let's go over all the important issues of the campaign shall we?

Birth Certificate
Big Bird
Dog On Car
Eating A Dog
Bullying Another College Student In 1960
Hanging With Leftist College Professors
Mormonism
Rev. Wright
Romney's Kid Would Like To Slug The Pres. For Calling His Father A Liar
Obama On The Campaign Trail Discussing "Romnesia"
and the list goes on and on...

In other words...when the candidates actually discuss the issues and their ideas...it doesn't get much media.

But when they act like jackasses and do stupid shit...now THAT is important. :(

The media doesn't want the public thinking about the real issues that matter because the more they do that the more they will realize the 2 candidates are frauds.

Actually, what I see is dingbats with very poor memories of what the Bush administration's two terms were like.

War based on lies (treason). High unemployment. Skyrocketing debt. Terror. Torture. The sinking of New Orleans. "Free speech zones." Cheney's Halliburton war profiteering (treason). Warrantless wiretapping of Americans. And on and on. 8 horrific years.

It was quite a nightmare after the Democratic Clinton era. Now roughly 1/2 the country wants to go back. Very poor memories indeed. God help us.

Obama 2012.

No argument.

Obama 2012.

lol these things are still going on, the 2 administrations are practically the same.

Obama extended the Patriot Act and all the TSA bullshit expanded under him.

Democrats or Republicans in office, it doesn't fucking matter, nothing really changes. It's full steam ahead.

Obama's administration even kept Bush's Republican Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Bush's Republican FED Chief Ben Bernanke.

this is true ...

If I was american ( though I do pay numerous taxes in the USA, but am an alien .. ) , I would be upset by this, as well as the increase attacks on civilians by drones, the intervention in Lybia , etc ...

I still would vote ' for ' him , but in reality it would be against Romney, which I think will do way more damage to the USA ...

So not a vote ' for ' , but a vote ' against ' .....

But relax Dudecrick, maddog and edhummer ... I do not vote !!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Good thing the WARS were free :thumbsup

They aren't upset though because they either don't even know about the law or if they do they are so brainwashed into thinking the constitution is an "outdated piece of paper" that they simply don't care. Until it happens to them or one of their loved ones, of course...

They ALL say what they're going to do. NEVER does the result match the claims. They HAVE TO make grand claims. Would Obama have been elected if he'd said "Under my leadership, we will make small but steady improvements in the economy, lower the unemployment rate a bit, not launch any new wars, and pass a mediocre healthcare bill that will at least improve on our fucked up healthcare system somewhat, and can be improved upon in the future." That's what happened. They all promise the moon because they have to. None of them ever succeed in 100% of it. That's NOT the same as lying OR flip/flopping.

Fucking Mittens changes his positions CONSTANTLY - sometimes even in the same DAY! It's astonishing. As a result even the Salt Lake Tribune dissed Mitt and endorsed Obama. http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/opinion...ident.html.csp

Obama 2012.

http://alecbrownstein.com/admin/uplo..._mitt_logo.jpg

Romney ain't going to abide by the Constitution either lol... we're fucked either way as usual...

So Bush sunk New Orleans with his awesome hurricane machine? Wow. :1orglaugh

And where do you get high unemployment during the Bush years? Average unemployment during Bush's two terms was 5.3%.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Once you go White, you know you done right :thumbsup

told that to a half black/half white chick once before I anally invaded her :thumbsup

The wars helped us fall into national debt further. Had nothing to do with the economy collapsing.
That was the housing market collapsing and banks falling in the wake of it.

Do any of y'all actually pay attention to what happens? LOL!

I know exactly what happened because I bought a $720,000 home in Sept of 2008...the very week the housing market collapsed and the banks followed. :(

Wow... that's a lot of spinning and excuses. You really are politically a slave to Obama aren't you?

It wouldn't matter what he did...you just follow blindly.

And the "right" will follow Romney blindly too.

Pathetic.

Default rate was way up a year before that. Best years as an REO agent was '07 and '08. For someone that pays attention to what is going on why in the hell would you buy a house in September '08?

[QUOTE=GrantMercury;19264341]PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE!

BUSH fucked our economy. Are you actually going to pretend that's not true? WE LIVED IT!!!

No, things aren't perfect. There's more to do. But the economy is improving! Unemployment is falling! And have you checked that stock market?!? And that is all with ZERO cooperation from the GOP FUCKERS in Congress! :boid

OBAMA 2012.


The US economy isn't improving under Obama , US corporations are sitting with trillions of dollars of cash on their balance sheets. They don't won't to invest in the US economy because of the anti-business stance of the Obama administration.

As for unemployment falling total bullshit. Did you read what Jack Welch had to say about that - I would rather take his word over this administration. The only reason the number came down is that they don't count people who have given up looking for work. Thats a pretty cause for celebration , don't you think. The real unemployment rate is closer to 10% - no US president has ever been reelected with unemployment this high and neither should Obama.

You forgot to mention Obama's sealed college records