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Old 10-25-2012, 08:12 AM   #1
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Bongacams is a fucking joke they dont pay

Just wanted to let people know that bongacams is a fucking joke, dont pay the leads, they cheated me for 200usd and say I cheated, but I did not...
DONT PROMOTE THEM!!!! Bann them from here.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:14 AM   #2
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What type of traffic did you send?
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Please remain calm.. The earth is still spinning!
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I want to know that, too!
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The topic it is misleading, they said you cheated so gave a reason for not to pay.
So the question it is different here

- have you cheated or not?

You are stating you did not cheated. And Bonga thinks you cheated.
So let's wait Bonga expose here the proof of your cheating, and you the proof you have not cheated, or this thread contains no any useful information.
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:26 AM   #10
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I can prove they pay so go fuck yourself!
You don't seem like an unbiased commentator, but if you can prove they did pay him go ahead.

OP post stats and any communications/statements/alerts saying you would not be paid and why.
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According to our Terms and Tonditions (http://bongacash.com/terms) we have the right to switch affiliates to revshare program and freeze all payouts if we have found that registration may be fraudulent. His traffic has extremely low productivity and we have reason to suppose that it may be fraudulent, so we have switched him to revshare program. Anyway if TS has any questions or issues he is free to contact me anytime and discuss this situation.
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Are registrations from Seychelles considered to be legitimate?

Seriously, I've actually always wanted to go there. This place looks sweet.

http://www.tablethotels.com/Maia-Lux...chelles/103695
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:15 AM   #13
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His traffic has extremely low productivity and we have reason to suppose that it may be fraudulent, so we have switched him to revshare program.
so low productivity is fraudulent ? Perhaps you should tweak your program a little so his costumers find a solid reason to spend with you. No need to blame affiliate here. Perhaps look at your own product before coming with a reason like this. PS bongo cams sounds bogus to me.

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Well I did not cheat and just to change like this dont feel ok, I dont even care about the money, im just pissed of at there disshonesty...so fuck you bongacams, think u smoked to mutch of the bongs...
I found out another thing aswell, my gf signed up as a camgirl, well they dont have many camgirls, and also not many viewers, and to start up with pay per lead, will get them crushed.....this will not take long until they are gone.
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Anyway if TS has any questions or issues he is free to contact me anytime and discuss this situation.
Discuss it here you pussy. You seem to not pay cause you have reason to believe.... Let us know the reason why you think he is defrauding you? Forced signup? Does he sign up himself 100 times...... what is your fucking reason? If you like to act like you do now you program will have a short life, and as your Terms and Tonditions say you can terminate your program on any time you wish. So... open up or shut up and find inhouse traffic yourself

PS put on your " Check spelling " so it might look your not from some third world country.
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Well I did not cheat and just to change like this dont feel ok, I dont even care about the money, im just pissed of at there disshonesty...so fuck you bongacams, think u smoked to mutch of the bongs...
I found out another thing aswell, my gf signed up as a camgirl, well they dont have many camgirls, and also not many viewers, and to start up with pay per lead, will get them crushed.....this will not take long until they are gone.
They did, they probably resell of some portal who does do serious business, they have no marge and need to act like this to prevent they do not go broke. These kind of cam sites have 6 months and they are crashed and burned, seen to many of these wannabee`s
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They did, they probably resell of some portal who does do serious business, they have no marge and need to act like this to prevent they do not go broke. These kind of cam sites have 6 months and they are crashed and burned, seen to many of these wannabee`s
Agree 100% and bonga show me prof that I have cheated...
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If you genuinely think an affiliate is fraudulent you ban them, you don't simply take their money and allow them to continue. Or are you saying you're happy to have fraudulent affiliates?

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If what he did wasn't enough to be banned, you should then pay out the gigantic $200 he made before you made the switch.
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Just wanted to let people know that bongacams is a fucking joke, dont pay the leads, they cheated me for 200usd and say I cheated, but I did not...
DONT PROMOTE THEM!!!! Bann them from here.
They replied it is because extremely low productivity, so low it looks like cheat.
You should at least tell what the traffic sources and what the countries geo %.

What countries you sent, was it us,ca,au,uk or the east europe and arabs?

http://bongacash.com/pay_per_email

$200 would be 133 leads of us,ca,au,uk $1.50 each or 200+ for east europe.

I see you got chocker traffic in signature, was that skimmed and popunder from choker or th ts etc? Such make not many signups in cams even if cheap so I would assume is some else source.
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If you genuinely think an affiliate is fraudulent you ban them, you don't simply take their money and allow them to continue. Or are you saying you're happy to have fraudulent affiliates?



If what he did wasn't enough to be banned, you should then pay out the gigantic $200 he made before you made the switch.

bump for them to answer...
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chooker not involved here, this was a whitelabel i set up, dont know where the traffic comes from, new domain and have not even checked the stats, the domain also where used as a popup on one of my tubesites.
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If you genuinely think an affiliate is fraudulent you ban them, you don't simply take their money and allow them to continue. Or are you saying you're happy to have fraudulent affiliates?
If what he did wasn't enough to be banned, you should then pay out the gigantic $200 he made before you made the switch.
You go tell this to aff. They switched me without paying my last earnings.
No problems with bonga so far.
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ya hes a mean motherfucker look at that experession on his face .. scary shit
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chooker not involved here, this was a whitelabel i set up, dont know where the traffic comes from, new domain and have not even checked the stats, the domain also where used as a popup on one of my tubesites.
Well bonga guys is europeans so now may sleep, I think they can give more details tomorrow, and if something was wrong they may solve, I know them since their site was in beta they're no newbies or shady really. How long it took for you to make this $200, I assume was first payment so within a pay period time.
I am curious of your mistery traffic, if you send some to my program evenough 10 free leads, I can tell you if you're cheater or not lol
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Every try and smoke out of a bonga? Someone PLEASE PS that one up.
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Fine, switch him to revshare, but at least pay him out what he's due. Do that to a few affiliates and you'll soon lose them all. I decided not to even touch these guys after saw camgirls complaining about not getting paid on another forum.
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Man, you have such a MAGIC traffic with really good SignUP conversion (from tubes! WTF?), but which doesn't watch and talk to our models at all, doesn't visit rooms, doesn't spend FREE tokens after registration. The only thing your traffic is doing - registering as hell! Cheater? Of course not!
If your tubes give such traffic, then we wouldn't recommend any affiliate program to work with your tubes.
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Man, you have such a MAGIC traffic with really good SignUP conversion (from tubes! WTF?), but which doesn't watch and talk to our models at all, doesn't visit rooms, doesn't spend FREE tokens after registration. The only thing your traffic is doing - registering as hell! Cheater? Of course not!
If your tubes give such traffic, then we wouldn't recommend any affiliate program to work with your tubes.
Sounds like cheating to me. Did you check to see if the registering IP's were proxies?
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Hmm.. Sounds like cheating I agree, though I am still curious about the reaction of free6xtube.
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another busted affiliate trying to make a bucks on PPL

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Hmm.. Sounds like cheating I agree, though I am still curious about the reaction of free6xtube.
Well as a cam program we get affiliates using pay per free lead and I have to say: 60% of the new affiliates are cheaters! Yes the majority (more than half) of the new affiliates are cheaters! Especially some weeks these cheaters come in clusters, like a dozen in 3 days, as someone posted of "new cpa offer to rape" in a blackhat or botnet or otherwise shady forum or IRC channel. I monitor those and at times there's guys who offer paypal or "liberty reserve" payments with little commission to who is able to generate signups not caught as a cheating under their affilaite account (not every hacker got a paxum).

Simply they got an hundred of USA ip's and yahoo + gmail accounts to open as many tubecamgirl accounts, this way you can do $100 a day with few hours of "work".

About the ip's being proxies, they do not always use recognizable host.server.com type of IP's (lots of these proxy are recognised by the Maxmind geoip API as "A1" country rather than "US,CA,AU" etc. so are not credited in first place). There's smart ones who got US isp IP's such as comcast's or roadrunner's or verizon's, so to recognise them it must be used other ways.

For example the http referrer, from what page they come from? Of course some are smart and do fakesite.com with our banner and put fakesite.com in http referrer, so it seems legit.
Also, are these guys chatting or watching the site? If you don't have such detailed logs on activity of users, it is quite difficult to decide this is smart cheat or simply real guy who signup and quits in a minute.
We see that lots of real users signup and quit in a minute, that's a fact, and affiliate must be paid as this is real signup; however from 100+ different signups, someone should at least watch, chat or use free tokens, it is a statistical thing. Some smart cheaters of course will chat and keep logged-in one fake user every 10 in order to look real too

Hope my guide in how to cheat pay per lead sites will be useful for anyone willing to cheat lol
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Wtf, adultmobile... Why bother cheating while one can have websites running on autopilot generating sales? I don't really understand that kind of people but I get the irony of your post.
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Good to share this kind of information adultmobile! It shows how important this forum is!
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Wtf, adultmobile... Why bother cheating while one can have websites running on autopilot generating sales? I don't really understand that kind of people but I get the irony of your post.
Sure some people got websites generating sales in autopilot, but there's too many million of people from 3rd world getting internet access and wanting to make money. A lot of unemployed people in country with no well paid jobs, with lots of free time and an internet connection, browsing "black hat make money" forums all the day.
Most of fraudsters come from India, Indonesia, Philippines, Nigeria, Brazil and such countries grow while 1st works shrinks. Some copy & paste stats:

"Internet use has been concentrated in emerging economies. The last four years 2008-2011 China added 215 million Internet users. Followed by India (69 mill. users added), Indonesia (37 mil. added), Philippines (+28 mil., or +44% per year!), Nigeria (+21 mil.), Mexico (+19 mil.), Brazil (+21 mil.).
Facebook?s biggest growth markets right now are Asia and South America, together they account for 62.5% of growth over the past year. Current top 10 facebook users by country: USA 159 mil; Brazil 54 mil; India 51 mil; Indonesia 41 mil; UK 37 mil; Mexico 36 mil; Turkey 31 mil; Philippines 29 mil."

Now even if 1 every 1000 of those new unemployed users will want to make money on internet, this is hundreds who signup to per lead programs doing what in fact I am seeing it happening every single week or even day. And trend it is: they will grow
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:42 PM   #43
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:05 PM   #44
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If only there was a small yet reliable cam program that has been in business and on gfy forever that you could promote....
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not serious business...

start doing serious business and start promoting niche paysites... not shitty cams.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:27 PM   #47
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:49 PM   #48
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Rev = Rev share? We got only pay per free user or PPS $80. Login and look around, read instruction page. Also you can advertise other sites within ours (using your aff id), that the extra ads page.
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DONT PROMOTE THEM!!!! Bann them from here.
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