Because I care for the industry and because we have many partners that are affected. Hard to get, I know...

BWAHAHA..... Fabian forgot he owns Digital Playground apparently and they RE in L.A. County...but maybe he is gonna make DP releases all soft core....


Dude if yer gonna lie at least TRY to have some fucking credibility

DP is a brand and is owned and operated outside of the US. Production is done all over the world and the production companies we own ourself related to hardcore are not in LA.
The only production corp we own in LA is playboy related and it does not shoot hardcore.

Try again Mike...

LOL you shovel that bullshit Fabian...It aint me you are gonna have to sell it to.

PLEASE everyone focus on the issue here.

In 8 days the PUBLIC voters of LA will get to decide FOR us how our industry will produce content.

It will be OUT OF OUR HANDS.

Please stop trying to make points and win arguments and FOCUS on the issue.

I think we both know that ship has already sailed. The time to have taken action was years ago.

It was never in your hands

Holy shit, does that dude with the pink hair have micropenis?! He does. I can't imagine the level of security you have to have with your body to be able to walk around nude in public with micropenis. That is the only thing anybody who came in contact with him that day, or saw these pictures will ever remember about him. Pink hair guy has micropenis. There are a lot of other things about him worthy of note, but for now, let me just state this again: pink hair guy has micropenis. The person with micropenis is to a man, like, if you lived in Philadelphia in 1992 at the height of the Uncle Eddie scandal, and there was a kid who actually sold Uncle Eddie a pair of his shitty underwear, or let him suck them off - or if you knew this kid, or knew someone who knew this kid, he became a whispered legend who touched off some deep horror that made your hair stand up on end. To hear about an actual person with micropenis is one thing, to actually go out and publically advertise it in the city streets is quite another. Every woman that guy knows, when describing him now will actually crook her thumb to give you a visual aid about the size of this man’s penis, bending it at a 90 degree angle to make very clear that it was not the length and girth of her entire thumb in its fully erect state, just the second digit. Pink hair guy has micropenis. He is a complex character in many ways but in my mind no nuance of his being will be attributed to anything but micropenis.

Invalid argument...doing nothing before does not mean that doing nothing NOW is ok.

Are we having fun yet?

Glad you voted no on Measure B. Will you be donating to the campaign or just spewing random nonsense in this thread?

Thats very admirable... I know you stated publicly to your followers on Twitter that Manwin is a condom optional company.

It would be a strong message to send to the public in the battle against Ballot Measure B that Manwin is condom optional --

Will you record a short video clip saying so and send it to Theo so he can post on it

www.PerformersForChoice.com

and/or deliver a statement to the press saying that the largest porn company doesnt need to be forced to used condoms since they are indeed optional ?

AHF and Weinstein keep repeating the statement to the public that if a performer chooses condoms they will not work in the industry. I think having a man of your stature and power come out and say that you will support a performers right to choose condoms can sway a lot of votes in this election.

I fear a little that Weinstein will misuse that statement, he loves twisting.. But I will think about it.

No, I won't and you are the one spewing nonsense :2 cents:

Got news for ya...It was in our hands for more than ten years. we saw this coming. Cal-OSHA regs and all and guess what....all we did was get worse and worse...now it is no longer in our hands even on the unlikely chance it fails its gonna win in appeal....courts rely on fact and heres a little fact for ya...You may not like it but its backed up by the health Dept and who do you think a judge is going to believe the health Dept or Diane Dukes magic 8 ball?

"Measure B is the result of a long history of inadequate workplace protection within this industry. This is a legal industry and we feel with legality comes responsibility; ultimately this boils down to a question of corporate citizenship. The hazardous exposures performs face on the job are well document and reported by labs and clinics to the county department of public health (as required by state law). Therefore, we have a very good understanding of the overall disease burden performers carry and how this compares to the population at-large.

When compared to the general community the cumulative incidence for gonorrhea and chlamydia is as high as 64 and 34 times respectively. When compared to sexually active adults between 18 and 24 (a group that traditionally shows high disease burden), the gonorrhea and chlamydia rates for performers are 8.5 and 16 times higher.

Note these rates demonstrate orders of magnitude that are unacceptable from a public health perspective."

I know I am not alone, Asian Diva Girls has always been condom optional (if any performer in a scene requests that a condom be used, we defer to the performer's request):

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/temp/G.../test-1825.jpg

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Say NO to Measure B on Nov 6th!

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THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO IS SHOWING SUPPORT!

Please continue to help however you can!!

Updated List of Donations:

Manwin $180,000
Free Speech Coalition $40,000
Vivid $35,000
Evil Angel $30,000
MetArt $25,000
Adam and Eve $10,000
Hustler $10,000
Doc Johnson $10,000
Pipedreams $10,000
Kink.com $10,000
Devil Films/Media Products $10,000
Wicked Pictures $10,000
Pleasure Productions/IVD $10,000
Cal Exotics $10,000
Scura $10,000
Devils Films $10,000
IM LIVE $10,000
AEBN/NakedSword $5,000
Video Secrets $5,000
New Sensations $5,000
Zero Tolerance $5,000
Girlfriends $5,000
Romantix $5,000
Pink Visual $5,000
Jet Set $5,000
Great Western $5,000
Karen Tynan $5,000
Metro $5,000
Magna Publishing $2,500
DVD Empire $2,000
Gamelink $2,000
Hotmovies $2,000
West Coast Productions $2,000
HardDrive Productions/Paul Pilcher $2,000.00
Web donations $1,259
RS Adams/Random Screw $1,000
Jekyl & Hyde $1,000
ALS $1,000
All Media Play $1,000
Magna Publishing $1,000
Resource Media $1,000
Meta Interfaces $1,000
Pulse Distribution $1,000
101 Modeling $1,000
Randy Blue $1,000
Good Vibrations $1,000
Evil Directors $1,000
Plausable Films/Paul Fishbein $1,000
FH Studios $1,000
Paul Thomas $1,000
Benjamin Pollack $1,000
Liquor Corp $500
Vision Mind/Phil Varone $500
Mark Speigler $500
Spieglergirls $500
SPF Transfer $300
Jon Rogers $200
Mark Kernes $200
Kylie Ireland $100
Severe Society Films $100
Sin Sage Inc $100

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I agree, and from a business perspective it would made a lot more sense for the industry to be proactive on this. Knowing that there are occupational risks and ignoring them is a pretty shitty way to run a business. The fact that someone can show up to a shoot with fake tests and continue working is pretty amazing.

-st

If the people in L.A, used the common sense that you, I and ADG and others do they wouldn't be in this mess.

Saying NO to Measure B and also making the choice to shoot condom porn (ala Ernest Green) is not in any way contradictory. Personally, I have no issue with performers choosing to use condoms, nor with those that don't, as long as testing is ALSO in place. I also don't necessarily think condoms in porn would completely kill the industry.

What I do have an issue with, and why I support NO on Measure B, is that AHF is using their donations to wage a publicity stunt that gets everyone in an uproar over condoms in porn, when they could use that money for - oh, I don't know - AIDS Research, funding more clinics in less financial secure neighborhoods, increasing campaigns to teach those just coming into adult-hood why AIDS testing is crucial . . . 1,000 other things they could spend their time and money doing, instead of choosing this stupid battleground.

IF FSC was the only voice against Measure B, the Measure would likely pass. Lord knows they refuse to use the legitimate and provable arguments Fattorosi, me and others have been giving them gratis for months now. Instead they pull out half baked theories and stoopid arguments that don't hold any water.

So what ever happened with the situation that the money that Manwin donated to Stop Government Waste would fall under illegal political donations, because Manwin's actual corporation is based outside the US and that money was not to be used by SGW for supporting No on Measure B? And why didn't FSC and SGW know enough about US politics to know that might be an issue when they accepted the donation? Sure makes me think twice about just how effective FSC and the rest truly are in politics that affect the adult industry . . . .

Dont get me wrong I agree with you about optional condoms, but a judge isnt going to believe either of them. Trying to prove that a performer contracted an STI except for HIV and Hep C and possibly syphilis on set will also be impossible.

It would be akin to proving that you caught a flu from your cubicle mate in an office environment.

The California legislature tried to pass a bill last year (AB 375) in favor of hospital workers placing the burden of proof on the employer to show that because of exposure to a blood borne pathogen an infection DIDNT happen. Burden of proof is usually on the injured worker...

The bill was defeated in the Senate... 20-16

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/po...b_375&sess=CUR

I dont think there will be a presumption made in favor of pornstars if hospital workers couldnt get one....

If someone at the FSC knew a little something about research legal or otherwise there could be much better arguments being made against Ballot Measure B as B&B points out...

Every DVD producer reading that Metro paid $5000 is dying of laughter right now.

My point isnt so much that an individual case or whatever of where did you catch it would hold up, its during the appeal when they say heres the helth dept stats on the industry that they are required by law to send us, heres the general population stats, this is why workplace safety laws need to be in place on this industry, they are a burden to the healthcare system and they have a reckless disregard for the safety of their employees, to the extent that they DONT ALLOW condom use.

When it comes time to uphold mandatory condom use that's going to be the hurdle we have to clear and we aren't going to do it with bullshit.

We can do better I know you agree I know Theo agrees I know a lot of people in porn agree, why are we being led around by the dumbest among us?

Is Manwin spending a 250K to lead us all to slaughter so they can further devalue or bankrupt the companies they don't yet own? ( Hey I love a good conspiracy theory even if I dont believe it)

LOL you just KNOW they said we will send ya a check.......dont hold your breath and even if ya do get it dont hold yer breath till it clears....

Everyone within a specific region of California will be affected. And even a worst case situation it spreads to other states, which I personally believe is fear mongering, it will not, can not, pass United States borders. So those who will be affected in the industry will actually be fairly limited.


I actually believe "Manwin" does not control anything related to this. However, whoever it is thought it was important enough to hide their whois info so no one knew who it was. The FSC or APHSS doesn't hide their whois info, so that sort of narrows it down to the next in line. You don't hide your whois unless you have something to hide. Can't think of anyone who hides things other than.... hmmmmmm.... I wonder, who could it be?

No one can provide a name. Just "the organization who runs the campaign." Every organization has some sort of board or membership. Who are they? What person gave the bank their ID when they opened the bank account? Who's signature is on the office lease agreement? Why is it all top secret?

OK, I'm done for the day. Continue on with the fear mongering.

You can never introduce new evidence on appeal. (exceptions for criminal death penalty cases I think) If the trial court didnt get to see it the appellate court doesnt get to take it into consideration.

And those reports will never make into a trial court since the Daubert motion will probably exclude it as not being relevant to the case at hand. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daubert_standard )

Im not arguing with you just pointing out that the studies that show STI rates in the industry dont mean anything to anyone except AHF who are using them for PR. They will probably not even be allowed to be introduced as evidence.

I wont argue with ya there its beyond my paygrade I had no law school but it just seems likely to me, and admittedly appeal may be the wrong word, whatever action that challenges the law on whatever basis...seems like to me thats gonna be the battleground since this is a public health issue. (presumeably)

Contact me on ICQ and i will donate if it's that big od a deal. I smell BS though.

I sent you a message.



I simply want to emphasize again that your support against Measure B is desparately neeeded.

It is wonderful to see so many people supporting the campaign...but I know there are many more that can make a difference.

THIS IS NOT JUST A LOCAL ISSUE. If Measure B is passed, it will impact our industry heavily. Take the time to read the bill, get educated and get involved.

I see so many threads here about politics and would very much like to see the same passion regarding this issue. Voting is November 6th - take a stand.

ty Myjah for posting and all your efforts. Thank you all sponsors working towards reversing this proposal.

Myjah, you are the best!

this "No on B" thing reminds me of...



if youre still filming in america best of luck :1orglaugh

No on Measure B videos... :thumbsup

ADG

Thank you for the support!

The feeling is mutual - THANK YOU Theo!

Just a reminder...

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Time for donations ends soon, so there is time to get TV ads etc

Keep it coming people!

oh no... is this me shedding a tear?

adapt or .....

Thanks, Thanks! Let's keep this up top, keep people focused until the vote, next Tuesday, November 6th!!

:thumbsup ADG!

More videos here: http://performersforchoice.com/

Tomorrow the TV ads start, lets all hope it can make a difference!

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