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epitome 11-05-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19296550)
Comments like this make it easy to see who watched and who did not. :2 cents: For the record, he was invited but declined.

That's like getting fired but being given an opportunity to submit your resignation. Even if he declined they would have talked about his great 8 years if they weren't such an embarrassment.

tony286 11-05-2012 07:53 PM

They don't talk about Bush for the most part. He was president only 4 yrs ago. If they all thought he did such a good job, they would of been parading him out the whole time but its like those years never happened.

epitome 11-05-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
Clinton signed the bill that caused the housing market to crash, That is my point. But media will never say something like that, It would hurt Obama's campaign.

And I may lean more towards republican, but I'm not. I agree with things on both sides. Here are a few of my beliefs.

1. Companies employing more than 1,000 people and can stamp their products made in the USA should be tax exempt. (those 1,000 employee's pay taxes made by that company)

2. Small businesses should get help from the government, not be over taxed.

3. I agree with welfare, But people should have to work for it. even if it's just cleaning up sidewalks, painting buildings, working daycare or mowing lawns. There should be no free handouts.

4. We need less laws, and more freedom. But Theft and Violent crimes should be taken more serious.

5. This Country is supposed to be about freedom, I don't think anyone should impose their beliefs on anyone, Live your life the way you want, Give others the same respect.


Edit: Oh, yeah and Tax anything coming into America so hard that it would be a loss for Companies to make their products outside of the USA. Those few things should fix the economy. and unemployment would be almost nonexistent.

You know how many contradictions are in that post?

Clinton signed the bill but lenders and borrowers took it further than intended. What was supposed to be a few % of loans turned into majority.

But yes more freedoms for biz!

You want government to help small business and make them pay less in taxes. That differs from the individual welfare you are against how?

Blah.

Nikki_Licks 11-05-2012 08:12 PM

That POS is still breathing our good air?

baddog 11-05-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19296625)
That's like getting fired but being given an opportunity to submit your resignation. Even if he declined they would have talked about his great 8 years if they weren't such an embarrassment.

He served two terms, he retired, he wasn't fired. He knows the Republican party has to move on. :2 cents:


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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19296630)
They don't talk about Bush for the most part. He was president only 4 yrs ago. If they all thought he did such a good job, they would of been parading him out the whole time but its like those years never happened.

Did you even watch the RNC or Veep debates? Ryan blames Bush almost as must as Obama for the current financials.

kane 11-05-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19296550)
Comments like this make it easy to see who watched and who did not. :2 cents: For the record, he was invited but declined.

I didn't watch either of the conventions, however, the way I understood it was that Bush announced he would not be a part of the convention months before it took place and later on it was said that he was invited and chose not to attend, but there were no details of what type of a role he was offered.

His dad and Dick Cheney also didn't show up, from what I understand. I don't know if they were invited or not.

Rochard 11-05-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
Clinton signed the bill that caused the housing market to crash, That is my point. But media will never say something like that, It would hurt Obama's campaign.

Not really. The law was abused. And Bush did nothing to stop it, and nothing to prevent this.

And why would the media cover up something? Are they all democratic? Did I miss that memo?

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
1. Companies employing more than 1,000 people and can stamp their products made in the USA should be tax exempt. (those 1,000 employee's pay taxes made by that company)

So all companies operating in the US who have more than a thousand people working for them should be tax free? Fucking brilliant. The government would go broke in thirty days.

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)

2. Small businesses should get help from the government, not be over taxed.

Over taxed? With all of the loopholes we have? How much more fucking help do small businesses need?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
3. I agree with welfare, But people should have to work for it. even if it's just cleaning up sidewalks, painting buildings, working daycare or mowing lawns. There should be no free handouts.

Sounds reasonable. But why hasn't anyone ever put something like that into place?

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
4. We need less laws, and more freedom. But Theft and Violent crimes should be taken more serious.

Why do need less laws? Are the laws we have over bearing? The local police have been to my house twice in eight years, once which was a mistake.

More freedom? More freedom to do what? Do you need papers or permission to drive past city limits? To leave the county? The state? Short of shooting someone I can pretty much do anything I want. I have multiple assault weapons in my house. What more fucking freedoms do you want?

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296549)
5. This Country is supposed to be about freedom, I don't think anyone should impose their beliefs on anyone, Live your life the way you want, Give others the same respect.

Your telling us to vote for the Republican party and then telling us no one should impose their believes on anyone. Yet the Republican party is trying to tell my wife what she can and cannot do with her own body....

Face reality. The Republican party has failed us with eight years of bush, and then to fix the problem they sent an old man and the governor of Alaska, and then they sent a business man with a 22% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. The Republican party knows it has no hope right now. That's how bad it is.

SmutHammer 11-05-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19296633)
You know how many contradictions are in that post?

Clinton signed the bill but lenders and borrowers took it further than intended. What was supposed to be a few % of loans turned into majority.

But yes more freedoms for biz!

You want government to help small business and make them pay less in taxes. That differs from the individual welfare you are against how?

Blah.

I'm not saying give small businesses a free ride, I'm saying not to tax them to death.

I'm not against welfare, I'm against the way it is currently handled.

SilentKnight 11-05-2012 08:53 PM

Bush is still standing in front of the national debt clock trying to figure out if the digits mean millions, billions or trillions he racked up.

arock10 11-06-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer
Clinton signed the bill that caused the housing market to crash, That is my point. But media will never say something like that, It would hurt Obama's campaign.
Not really. The law was abused. And Bush did nothing to stop it, and nothing to prevent this.

And why would the media cover up something? Are they all democratic? Did I miss that memo?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer
1. Companies employing more than 1,000 people and can stamp their products made in the USA should be tax exempt. (those 1,000 employee's pay taxes made by that company)
So all companies operating in the US who have more than a thousand people working for them should be tax free? Fucking brilliant. The government would go broke in thirty days.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

2. Small businesses should get help from the government, not be over taxed.
Over taxed? With all of the loopholes we have? How much more fucking help do small businesses need?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer
3. I agree with welfare, But people should have to work for it. even if it's just cleaning up sidewalks, painting buildings, working daycare or mowing lawns. There should be no free handouts.
Sounds reasonable. But why hasn't anyone ever put something like that into place?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer
4. We need less laws, and more freedom. But Theft and Violent crimes should be taken more serious.
Why do need less laws? Are the laws we have over bearing? The local police have been to my house twice in eight years, once which was a mistake.

More freedom? More freedom to do what? Do you need papers or permission to drive past city limits? To leave the county? The state? Short of shooting someone I can pretty much do anything I want. I have multiple assault weapons in my house. What more fucking freedoms do you want?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Hammer
5. This Country is supposed to be about freedom, I don't think anyone should impose their beliefs on anyone, Live your life the way you want, Give others the same respect.
Your telling us to vote for the Republican party and then telling us no one should impose their believes on anyone. Yet the Republican party is trying to tell my wife what she can and cannot do with her own body....

Face reality. The Republican party has failed us with eight years of bush, and then to fix the problem they sent an old man and the governor of Alaska, and then they sent a business man with a 22% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. The Republican party knows it has no hope right now. That's how bad it is.
You pretty much summed it up. These just kind of come across as random thoughts and republican speaking points, though executed somewhat poorly.

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KillerK 11-06-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19296533)
You are very much Republican.

The way the current system works is the rich walk through loop wholes a mile long. I'm not being punished for being successful, I'm getting richer and richer while the poor continue to live in section eight housing.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like generations of people living on welfare either. But is Romney going to change that? Obama? The next President? The one after him? Nope.



Making the point of what? That we had a decent president in office and all the Republican party could do about it was expose him getting a fucking blow job? That was the lowest point in American politics, worse than Nixon.



President Bush brought the country to it's knees, and dragged the entire world down with it. The shit we are still going through today is because of President Bush. He destroyed us. He was at the helm when this all went down.

Why in the world do you think Obama has Clinton - the President who was impeached - campaigning for him yet there is zero mention of Bush during the entire Romney campaign.

Bullshit, Clinton was the cause of it. Bush sure didn't stop it from happening.

Also, you say shit is so good now, you have neighbors now and businesses.

epitome 11-06-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Hammer (Post 19296687)
I'm not saying give small businesses a free ride, I'm saying not to tax them to death.

I'm not against welfare, I'm against the way it is currently handled.

They aren't being taxed to death. If you are feeling like you are being taxed to death that is because you are failing at business.

Robbie 11-06-2012 12:00 PM

For the same reason that Gore didn't want Clinton anywhere near him in 2000 (Clinton was still disgraced at the time he left office) and didn't have him as part of the campaign at all.

And the same reason that Carter to this very day is not wanted in campaigning or at the Democrat Convention.

Bush is in the same boat at the moment. He is a negative. Why would Romney want a negative like that?

He doesn't. Just like Clinton WAS a negative in 2000 for Gore, and Carter would be a negative for Obama now.

2012 11-06-2012 12:34 PM

because Bush was a major factor in why we're in this shit mess ? could that have something to do with it ?

Robbie 11-06-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 19298111)
because Bush was a major factor in why we're in this shit mess ? could that have something to do with it ?

No, Bush is a major factor we went to war for no real reason and have lost so many of our personal freedoms.

This "shit mess" was caused by the housing market collapsing...which was caused by Congressional legislation deregulating it that began when Clinton was still President (and no, Clinton had nothing to do with it either...it was CONGRESS)

sperbonzo 11-06-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by madm1k3 (Post 19296548)
Epic fail

Carter: has been a vocal advocate of every candidate since he lost

Reagan: Went all over the Country for Bush Sr in 1988, then did again in 1992.... proof you say:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/01/us...-in-south.html

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tiNVq...feature=fvwrel

George HW Bush: Campaigned for his son and endorses Mitt Romney live on CNN

https://youtube.com/watch?v=mJNI1qw0l04

Clinton: Campaign Machine

W: ?


So I guess you meant dead presidents like Nixon or Ford?

LOL... Ok. Fair enough. I capitulate the point.



:)





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GAMEFINEST 11-06-2012 01:25 PM

too much negative view

LAJ 11-06-2012 03:54 PM

Gore would have won in 2000 had he had Clinton helping him campaign. Well... he won anyway... but... Clinton would have helped for sure.

Clinton didn't cause any problems... the 90s was the most prosperous time in our lifetimes.

Robbie 11-06-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 19298510)
Gore would have won in 2000 had he had Clinton helping him campaign. Well... he won anyway... but... Clinton would have helped for sure.

Clinton didn't cause any problems... the 90s was the most prosperous time in our lifetimes.

I think he made a mistake by not having Clinton with him as well...but that was his call. He decided that he didn't want to be associated with Clinton because of all the sex scandals and the WhiteWater scandal and investigations.

Clinton was a negative at that particular time...but with a few years of retrospective thought, people love him now.

And I think he would have had a positive impact for Gore as well even then.

candyflip 11-06-2012 04:11 PM

It's because he voted for Obama. In Fakeland.

http://dailycurrant.com/2012/11/06/g...y-votes-obama/

:1orglaugh

LAJ 11-06-2012 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19298536)
I think he made a mistake by not having Clinton with him as well...but that was his call. He decided that he didn't want to be associated with Clinton because of all the sex scandals and the WhiteWater scandal and investigations.

Clinton was a negative at that particular time...but with a few years of retrospective thought, people love him now.

And I think he would have had a positive impact for Gore as well even then.

Yup... it was just one misstep after another for Gore, ending with not fighting the supreme court hard enough over the whole Florida debacle. Clinton would have totally had a positive impact IMO. And all Gore had to do was carry his own state and then FL would have been unnecessary.


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