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marlboroack 12-08-2012 02:46 PM

Ok, this is not a good thread. Freaking me out. It's going to take me DAYS to withdraw all my money from Paxum. LOL

Sid70 12-08-2012 03:05 PM

Dont be retarded - use Payoneer.

Killswitch 12-08-2012 03:20 PM

Don't be retarded - use real payment methods.

Dating Port 12-08-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19358986)
Don't be retarded - use real payment methods.

Right now I'd almost take a check but I'm afraid that would only bounce from more than one sponsor in today's environment.

RuthB 12-08-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barnaba (Post 19358379)
Same here... sent ticket and email to Chris.

Hi Barnaba,
I received your email. Can you please open a ticket in the Message Center of your Paxum account and then email me the ticket number? I'll then ask support to handle your request asap.
Thanks!
Ruth :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 19358927)
Unfortunately a lot of programs jumped on Paxum right after epass and use it as their only form of payment. I've been using Paxum since they started but now I'm going to have issues because I lost wallet and now live in another state and jumping through all kinds of hoops just to get my ID fixed. In the mean time, Paxum sent me an email saying I have to update my ID. Well it's not that easy since I'm already scrambling to fix it on my end. So now I have to freeze sponsor payments so it doesn't get all f**ked up on Paxum's end.

I don't have this problem with Payoneer, Alertpay, Paypal, Netspend, or other processors, just Paxum. (Netspend isn't a processor but US people can do card to card transfers for free and instantly).

On top of that, Payoneer uses Choice bank without problems so the issue is definitely Paxum's.

Hi there,

I'm sorry you're having difficulties as a result of losing your wallet and ID.

Every single Paxum account must be verified with a valid picture ID and proof of address at the time of verification. When that ID expires, it must be replaced in our system so that we ALWAYS have a current valid ID for every single one of our clients. This is part of our KYC process that is required by our banking and credit card partners.

Perhaps other providers don't follow the same guidelines to the same degree as Paxum does; I cannot comment upon other providers methods or adherence to the rules.

All I can say is that here at Paxum we strictly follow the rules to ensure our business and our customers are not compromised.

Please feel free to email me with your Paxum account email and ticket # and I'd be happy to look into your situation and see if I can assist you in any way.

[email protected]


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Originally Posted by marlboroack (Post 19358942)
Ok, this is not a good thread. Freaking me out. It's going to take me DAYS to withdraw all my money from Paxum. LOL

marlboroack; if you're concerned and want to withdraw all your funds at once, and they are more than $2,500 USD (the daily limit on the Paxum Mastercard), then please note that we do also offer both wire and check withdrawals so that you do not have to wait. :thumbsup

Klen 12-08-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 19358927)
Unfortunately a lot of programs jumped on Paxum right after epass and use it as their only form of payment. I've been using Paxum since they started but now I'm going to have issues because I lost wallet and now live in another state and jumping through all kinds of hoops just to get my ID fixed. In the mean time, Paxum sent me an email saying I have to update my ID. Well it's not that easy since I'm already scrambling to fix it on my end. So now I have to freeze sponsor payments so it doesn't get all f**ked up on Paxum's end.

I don't have this problem with Payoneer, Alertpay, Paypal, Netspend, or other processors, just Paxum. (Netspend isn't a processor but US people can do card to card transfers for free and instantly).

On top of that, Payoneer uses Choice bank without problems so the issue is definitely Paxum's.

Note:your funds wont be frozen if you dont send id,you only wont be able to use card,you can still withdraw money by using other methods.
I see Ruth posted around same time as me but i remember when i had to submit new id it was clearly stated in mail how i will only lose card if i dont submit it.

nikki99 12-08-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19308189)
funds are in motion

locomotion :GFYBand

Klen 12-08-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 19358960)
Dont be retarded - use Payoneer.

It doesn't work that way-first payoneer is barely supported by sponsors,only few of them use,plus last time when i used them they sucked totally.They improved a bit in the meantime,but since there is limited amount of sponsors it doesn't matter anyway.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19358986)
Don't be retarded - use real payment methods.

It's a simple mathematics- using paxum is saving a lot on check and wire fees.As longest you withdraw money asap on card when you receive funds,you will minimize chances to lose money,you can even make it 100% secure by keeping funds on card since card money is controlled by bank not paxum.

Killswitch 12-08-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19308438)
It's a simple mathematics- using paxum is saving a lot on check and wire fees.As longest you withdraw money asap on card when you receive funds,you will minimize chances to lose money,you can even make it 100% secure by keeping funds on card since card money is controlled by bank not paxum.

I'm sure that worked out great with Epassporte right? :disgust

Dating Port 12-08-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19359003)
Note:your funds wont be frozen if you dont send id,you only wont be able to use card,you can still withdraw money by using other methods.
I see Ruth posted around same time as me but i remember when i had to submit new id it was clearly stated in mail how i will only lose card if i dont submit it.

I don't even have a paxum card. I just think it's dumb that I've been a member since 2010 and because a piece of paper expired, I'm not me anymore.

But I don't hear my bank calling me up asking for new ID.

Dating Port 12-08-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19359003)
Note:your funds wont be frozen if you dont send id,you only wont be able to use card,you can still withdraw money by using other methods.
I see Ruth posted around same time as me but i remember when i had to submit new id it was clearly stated in mail how i will only lose card if i dont submit it.

On 10/25/2012 Paxum said (Ticket Id: #161992):
Quote:

This message is a follow up to your phone call and the conversation you had with one of our operators.

Unfortunately there isn't much we can do to help in this situation. We must follow strict regulations imposed to us by the bank when it comes to the verification process for our customers. Due to this reason, as proof of identity we can only accept valid documents, such as:

- International Passport;
- Driver's License;
- National ID.

Please note that you have 6 weeks from the moment you have received the document expiry date notification email, to upload a new and valid proof of identity document, before your Paxum account is limited.
I replied (Ticket Id: #161992):
Quote:

What exactly do you mean by "limited"?
Paxum replied (Ticket Id: #161992):
Quote:

The limited status means that your account can only receive funds from other Paxum Account holders, and funds cannot be withdrawn or sent to other Paxum users, until the necessary requirements are met.
So by the time I receive my sponsor payments before Christmas, my funds will be frozen.

RuthB 12-08-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 19359033)
I don't even have a paxum card. I just think it's dumb that I've been a member since 2010 and because a piece of paper expired, I'm not me anymore.

But I don't hear my bank calling me up asking for new ID.

Paxum is not a bank, we are a global ewallet payment service. We are required at all times to have valid ID for all clients. While a bank may see you in person to create your account, Paxum is an online service and we verify your account from the documentation you provide through your secure account, and not in person.

Dating Port 12-08-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 19359056)
Paxum is not a bank, we are a global ewallet payment service. We are required at all times to have valid ID for all clients. While a bank may see you in person to create your account, Paxum is an online service and we verify your account from the documentation you provide through your secure account, and not in person.

So then what is payoneer, the boogeyman? Using the same exact bank as you guys?
That's nothing but B***SH*T! You guys have been nothing but problems from the start. But since all the F**king sponsors jumped on it there's not much to do except find sponsors that don't use you as a payment method.

Then maybe things can calm back down since this has been going on since the epass collapse.

Dating Port 12-08-2012 04:13 PM

I may have felt different if we had to battle all the "global ewallet payment service" providers but that is not the case.

It is only Paxum.

I'm almost ready to go back to the stone ages when cashing a check from halfway around the world took 45 to 60 days.

RuthB 12-08-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 19359071)
So then what is payoneer, the boogeyman? Using the same exact bank as you guys?
That's nothing but B***SH*T! You guys have been nothing but problems from the start. But since all the F**king sponsors jumped on it there's not much to do except find sponsors that don't use you as a payment method.

Then maybe things can calm back down since this has been going on since the epass collapse.

As I said earlier, I cannot comment on Payoneer's diligence to their KYC. Here at Paxum we know it is crucial to maintain proper records, and so that is what we do.

Nissim-Payoneer 12-08-2012 05:27 PM

Payoneer is a fully regulated US company, that strictly complies with all applicable regulations and procedures, including KYC, AML, and others. We do all that is required (and in most cases even more) to ensure the financial security of our account holders.

We do our best to provide the best service possible, and improve user experience as much as we can.

Dating Port 12-08-2012 05:38 PM

I don't have anything bad to say about Payoneer other than quite some time ago they had a sort of rocky beginning. They've improved greatly since then. I'm also not implying Payoneer has substandard diligence on KYC or AML procedures.

I'm sure both Paxum and Payoneer face significant reputational damage and potentially large fines if adequate controls are not in place. Payoneer just happens to be better at making them more transparent and not alienating it's consumer side customers.

Klen 12-09-2012 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 19359044)
On 10/25/2012 Paxum said (Ticket Id: #161992):


I replied (Ticket Id: #161992):


Paxum replied (Ticket Id: #161992):


So by the time I receive my sponsor payments before Christmas, my funds will be frozen.

Hmm well i guess they hardened conditions in the meantime

grzepa 12-11-2012 03:30 AM

I can't access my mastercard, it says "service temporarily unavailable" anyone else experience this too?

adultwebmestar 12-11-2012 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grzepa (Post 19363135)
I can't access my mastercard, it says "service temporarily unavailable" anyone else experience this too?

yes:Oh crap


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