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JamesChoopa 11-15-2012 09:41 AM

Finally porting out of AT&T and getting my Verizon iPhone 5's tomorrow!

CurrentlySober 11-15-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CourtneyR_FFN (Post 19314832)
The number one thing I noticed about those who have androids is it seems like they are constantly having to plug it in. I go the whole day with my iPhone 5 with out plugging it in. That is with using it constantly and having Pandora streaming the hour two and from work.

Fairy Muff...

TBH I dont really know - I'm not really a 'phone' type of guy... My Hardwired BT internet went down last week, so I bought it as a very cheap 'Plan B'

As such, its wonderful... But for an 'everyday all-day' user? Dunno :)

CourtneyR 11-15-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesChoopa (Post 19314834)
Finally porting out of AT&T and getting my Verizon iPhone 5's tomorrow!

have fun with it. It runs crazy fast! it just might blow your mind

http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=4128803&t=o

DamianJ 11-15-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19314798)


Oh and Apple has release cycles setup a certain way, only an idiot actually goes from 3, to 3s, to 4, to 4s, to 5...

It's actually setup so that if you bought a 4 with a 2-year contract, when the 5 comes out, your contract is up and you can renew your contract and get the 5 in the meantime.

Same with the 4S and when the 5S comes out.


Hope that helps you out.

Why would anyone except a very poor person get a phone on a contract? The TCO is much higher than buying it outright. Then you can sell it when the new one comes out.

Killswitch 11-15-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19315133)
Why would anyone except a very poor person get a phone on a contract? The TCO is much higher than buying it outright. Then you can sell it when the new one comes out.

You're a fucking idiot... An iPhone 5 cost $799 whereas with a 2-year contract it's $199.

Move to a real fucking country instead of that third-world bullshit you live in, and you won't have to pay high fucking prices for shit.

DamianJ 11-15-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19315167)
You're a fucking idiot... An iPhone 5 cost $799 whereas with a 2-year contract it's $199.

Move to a real fucking country instead of that third-world bullshit you live in, and you won't have to pay high fucking prices for shit.

Do you understand what TCO means? Total cost of ownership. Take the 199, then add up the payments over two years. It's really simple.

Buy the phone outright, get a sim and a no phone deal. Mine cost me 15 bucks a month. It's very basic maths.

The telco make money because they are lending you 799 for two years. The phone isn't really 199 kid. It's 199 plus 2 years of expensive repayments!

Sorry you can't afford the money to buy yours outright. Maybe get a job that pays you enough to be able to not have to borrow money from AT&T?

Killswitch 11-15-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19315520)
Do you understand what TCO means? Total cost of ownership. Take the 199, then add up the payments over two years. It's really simple.

Buy the phone outright, get a sim and a no phone deal. Mine cost me 15 bucks a month. It's very basic maths.

The telco make money because they are lending you 799 for two years. The phone isn't really 199 kid. It's 199 plus 2 years of expensive repayments!

Sorry you can't afford the money to buy yours outright. Maybe get a job that pays you enough to be able to not have to borrow money from AT&T?

http://i.imgur.com/3hAbO.jpg

Tofu 11-15-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by famous (Post 19312935)
I went to a local sprint store 3 weeks ago and got one. They are all over the place here.

Same here. Left Verizon to join Sprint with an iPhone 5. I was sick of paying Verizon's fucking overage fees.





Assholes. :321GFY

DamianJ 11-15-2012 04:02 PM

Once again your razor like wit cuts me to the quick.

I'm glad I'm here to help you work out simple things in life. Like what subsidize and TCO mean.
It's so cute you actually thought the phone companies were doing you a favor!

Killswitch 11-15-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tofu (Post 19315585)
Same here. Left Verizon to join Sprint with an iPhone 5. I was sick of paying Verizon's fucking overage fees.





Assholes. :321GFY

Overages fees? I just switched from Sprint to Verizon because I was sick of not having service in my apartment. :1orglaugh

Verizon told me they were having problems with overages on data due to the iPhone wireless sucking on cellular usage but they were waiving the fee for all iPhone 5 users... But with the recent update to iOS 6, that bug is fixed. :thumbsup

SomeCreep 11-15-2012 04:12 PM

i still need to get one

crizatu 11-21-2012 02:26 AM

they are out of stock in my country as well for almost 3 weeks

candyflip 11-21-2012 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19315611)
Overages fees? I just switched from Sprint to Verizon because I was sick of not having service in my apartment. :1orglaugh

Verizon told me they were having problems with overages on data due to the iPhone wireless sucking on cellular usage but they were waiving the fee for all iPhone 5 users... But with the recent update to iOS 6, that bug is fixed. :thumbsup

Sprint will sent you a free fem-to-cell unit that boosts signal indoors. Had one sine I got the iPhone 5 because it was suit at keeping a connection indoors.

borked 11-21-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19315167)
You're a fucking idiot... An iPhone 5 cost $799 whereas with a 2-year contract it's $199.

Move to a real fucking country instead of that third-world bullshit you live in, and you won't have to pay high fucking prices for shit.

He's right.... mine is arriving tomorrow with the one I bought for the missus for her birthday pressie (bless, she's still on the iphone 3G*). Bought from Apple for €670 each and we each pay €20/mo for unlimited everyting (calls inc international too, internet, sms etc). For the same call plan under 24mo contract to get the phone for €200, we'd each be paying €60/mo. OK, we could go for the more limited packages eg 1hr talk, 2GB internet and pay €45/mo, but even that is €25/mo more than we pay now. x24 mo == €600 extra, plus the €200 for the phone means paying the €800 for the phone instead of €670

Maybe you say *only* €130 difference, but that's like taking out a 2yr load loan at 19% APR, which is nuts. Plus we have a much better call plan, *and* we have no contract on that plan, so can switch to any other operator when we want.

I haven't been tied into a phone contract for many years.... only the phone companies win in contracts...

*edit the iphone 3g hand me down that she got for her pressie last year (or yr before cant remember) from me when i got myself the 4.... She thinks her pressie this year is my iphone4 handmedown, so at least time she'll have a surprise!

candyflip 11-21-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 19325971)
He's right.... mine is arriving tomorrow with the one I bought for the missus for her birthday pressie (bless, she's still on the iphone 3G*). Bought from Apple for ?670 each and we each pay ?20/mo for unlimited everyting (calls inc international too, internet, sms etc). For the same call plan under 24mo contract to get the phone for ?200, we'd each be paying ?60/mo. OK, we could go for the more limited packages eg 1hr talk, 2GB internet and pay ?45/mo, but even that is ?25/mo more than we pay now. x24 mo == ?600 extra, plus the ?200 for the phone means paying the ?800 for the phone instead of ?670

Maybe you say *only* ?130 difference, but that's like taking out a 2yr load loan at 19% APR, which is nuts. Plus we have a much better call plan, *and* we have no contract on that plan, so can switch to any other operator when we want.

I haven't been tied into a phone contract for many years.... only the phone companies win in contracts...

*edit the iphone 3g hand me down that she got for her pressie last year (or yr before cant remember) from me when i got myself the 4.... She thinks her pressie this year is my iphone4 handmedown, so at least time she'll have a surprise!

We have no contract options here in the US, but they are more often than not a bit more money and piggy back off of the big networks.

Prepaid sims here in the US are a completely different market as compared to elsewhere. For most, you get a prepaid when you are unable to get to qualify for a phone on contract, so it has that stigma to overcome.

Choopa Phil 11-21-2012 02:30 PM

Walked right into the store and got one yesterday. Black 32GB. Very nice aesthetically and ergonomically.

2intense 11-21-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by killswitch (Post 19315167)
you're a fucking idiot... An iphone 5 cost $799 whereas with a 2-year contract it's $199.

Move to a real fucking country instead of that third-world bullshit you live in, and you won't have to pay high fucking prices for shit.

idiot alert............

borked 11-21-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19326009)
We have no contract options here in the US, but they are more often than not a bit more money and piggy back off of the big networks.

Prepaid sims here in the US are a completely different market as compared to elsewhere. For most, you get a prepaid when you are unable to get to qualify for a phone on contract, so it has that stigma to overcome.

Ok then that makes more sense if each network has a single tarif.
Here, everything changed when Free got into the mobile market in feb 2012 with its ?2/mo plan and budget ?16 internet call plan. All the other telcos had no option but to drop,their prices to compete. Only 12 mo ago, you had to pay at least ?30/mo to have an internet plan, now if you pay >25?/mo and dont have unlimited everything with no contract, you're a sucker. Just goes to show how much profit margin the telcos have/had. Just takes one giant to take the plunge to force others to follow suite

Killswitch 11-21-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19326009)
We have no contract options here in the US, but they are more often than not a bit more money and piggy back off of the big networks.

Prepaid sims here in the US are a completely different market as compared to elsewhere. For most, you get a prepaid when you are unable to get to qualify for a phone on contract, so it has that stigma to overcome.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

borked 11-21-2012 03:06 PM

Hey dude, you shouldn't be giving a thumbs up to your insane network plans!
Just had a quick looksy on at&t -
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/pla...id=0dVBlcF6qxu

For unlimited minutes call and 3GB data, you're paying $100/mo according to that site....add another $20/mo for unlimited texting.

Compare that to any of these (translated to english for you)
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.free.fr% 2F

http://translate.google.com/translat...rfaits-mobiles
(for that site, fill in the missing boxes with the original site )

Crazy price differences (and 2-year contracts) for the exact same thing.

But yeah, if you're already having to pay $100/mo for 24 months, I can see why you would only get the iphone on contract and not direct from Apple....

Tat2Jr 11-21-2012 03:08 PM

I'm very happy with my EVO 3D on Virgin mobile. $300 to purchase the phone outright, and only $35 a month. I have fine credit, just don't want to pay twice that for the same exact plan with the big 3.

Killswitch 11-21-2012 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 19326090)
Hey dude, you shouldn't be giving a thumbs up to your insane network plans!
Just had a quick looksy on at&t -
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/pla...id=0dVBlcF6qxu

For unlimited minutes call and 3GB data, you're paying $100/mo according to that site....add another $20/mo for unlimited texting.

Compare that to any of these (translated to english for you)
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.free.fr% 2F

http://translate.google.com/translat...rfaits-mobiles
(for that site, fill in the missing boxes with the original site )

Crazy price differences (and 2-year contracts) for the exact same thing.

But yeah, if you're already having to pay $100/mo for 24 months, I can see why you would only get the iphone on contract and not direct from Apple....

Haha, I work with what I have. I can pay $100/mo for unlimted talk, text, and 2GB transfer on Verizon (which I am) or I can own a phone that was phased out 10 years ago and pay $20/mo for no contract.

Not to mention all non-big carriers don't even cover nationwide unless you get a contract with them, which then brings you back up to the $100/mo mark anyway.

I'll pay $100/mo for an iPhone than $20/mo for a Nokia 6010.

borked 11-21-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19326102)
Haha, I work with what I have. I can pay $100/mo for unlimted talk, text, and 2GB transfer on Verizon (which I am) or I can own a phone that was phased out 10 years ago and pay $20/mo for no contract.

Not to mention all non-big carriers don't even cover nationwide unless you get a contract with them, which then brings you back up to the $100/mo mark anyway.

I'll pay $100/mo for an iPhone than $20/mo for a Nokia 6010.

you're missing my point... I can see that $100/mo is the de facto standard for anything useful, so you have no choice. Just saying those prices are frikken crazy - if I travelled to the US, I could add an option for 1G data and 3hrs talk for ?15/mo. Now god knows which network that would go on, but I'm with Orange, which in Europe is a major player, so their roaming I'm guessing peers with major players, so I'd expect pan-US coverage...

if so, I'd have unlimited European everything and 3 hr talk and 1GB data in the US for ?45/mo, which is still a shit lot less ($60/mo) than what you are paying...

How can your telcos rationalise that discrepancy?

Killswitch 11-21-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 19326118)
How can your telcos rationalise that discrepancy?

Monopoly. :Oh crap

seXXXhub 11-21-2012 03:50 PM

my S3 has the best battery life ever , abt 36 hours .. and i surf on the net .. email .. games .. and talk. best phone ever. i didnt had the "omg i have to recharge" feeling no more with this phone .. i forgot how it is :))

Tat2Jr 11-21-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19326102)
Haha, I work with what I have. I can pay $100/mo for unlimted talk, text, and 2GB transfer on Verizon (which I am) or I can own a phone that was phased out 10 years ago and pay $20/mo for no contract.

Not to mention all non-big carriers don't even cover nationwide unless you get a contract with them, which then brings you back up to the $100/mo mark anyway.

I'll pay $100/mo for an iPhone than $20/mo for a Nokia 6010.

You have some very very old information about no contract plans in the USA. The phones they offer are usually less then a year old. You can even get the iphone 4s or Samsung Galaxy II with no contract. And they're all nation wide and 4g now.

Killswitch 11-21-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 19326217)
You have some very very old information about no contract plans in the USA. The phones they offer are usually less then a year old. You can even get the iphone 4s or Samsung Galaxy II with no contract. And they're all nation wide and 4g now.

Location: Sunny California

Not all over the country. The midwest has shit for no-contract based phones. I leave the tri-state area good luck on making or receiving a call.

Tat2Jr 11-21-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19326226)
Location: Sunny California

Not all over the country. The midwest has shit for no-contract based phones. I leave the tri-state area good luck on making or receiving a call.

That's odd since they all use the big 3's lines. StraightTalk uses either ATT or Verizon mattering on which phone you bring/buy. Virgin and Boost use Sprint's network. I'm not sure what cricket or MetroPCS uses for their networks.

Killswitch 11-21-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 19326283)
That's odd since they all use the big 3's lines. StraightTalk uses either ATT or Verizon mattering on which phone you bring/buy. Virgin and Boost use Sprint's network. I'm not sure what cricket or MetroPCS uses for their networks.

I've used many carriers and phone types... Even if I found a non-contract based phone service in my area, I still wouldn't have an iPhone 5 with 4G or LTE.

If I want a good phone, I have to pay.. And I'm fine with that. I don't need to pinch every penny I can. $100/mo for my phone is reasonable considering I can do double that a night out drinking.


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