Let me give you a dose of reality. Here in the US we have a term that "Possession is nine tenths of the law". While it might not be legally accurate, it's for the most part how countries boarders have been formed around the world.

What ever land you claim that Israel has that you think is yours, is irrelevant because they now possess it. It might be right it might be wrong, but that's how it is. That is reality.

Now there are two decisions you can make. You can accept this and work with what you have potentially try to legally annex it via the UN or you can wage war and try to take what ever back.

The world offers support via the peaceful solution, but instead you choose the war solution and want to complain when it doesn't work out so well. Sorry but you can't always have your cake and eat it too there are always consequences to war and the losing side doesn't get to write the rules.. Ask Germany & Japan about that.. both of which thrive today because they accepted the terms when they lost.

This is a must to see, a son of the Hamas Founder.
Also see what he starts to say from 10:56.

Btw he said all this more than a year ago (if not more), this is not from now..

'Borders' man, the word is spelled 'borders'.

Possession is nine tenth of the law doesn't work with international laws.

Lebanon was not involved in the Six Day War. Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978, 1982 and 2006.

You are right, But the reason Israel invaded Lebanon was, guess what - TERROR.

and again, After Israel LEFT Lebanon to the international border (sorry not 1967), they still got attacked by Hizballa who killed and kidnaped 3 Israeli soldiers.

Which is exactly why no country has a right to exist, as you tried to claim.

Let them fight each other if they want to. But why the fuck should we keep paying for it, or take sides?

Obama is crying crocodile tears in Burma right now, telling Buddhists to stop killing Muslims there. Doesn't give a single shit about Jews killing Muslims and Christians in Gaza though. How's the Buddhist lobby in Washington these days?

The middle east has the problems its has because of Western powers using puppet countries to control the region for the oil. From direct colonial control to support for dictatorships like Egypt or racist Zionist State of Israel.

Israel has taken so much Palestinian land that a 2 state solution is now not feasible even if it was desirable. What is needed is one state without racial or religious affiliation to represent all people living in the area.

The idea of a Jewish state is backward racist and meaningless in a multicultural world.

We need to same change that happened in South Africa to happen in the Middle East.

Not Jew or Arab but citizen. Americans of all people, as children of the French Revolution, should relate to this.

Haters Gonna Hate

And that's really too bad because the best case for them is accepting what land they have right now. Israel will never give up any of it's land because it already knows eventually it will lead to more fighting, so what's the point.

I saw a graphic here on GFY about how "Israel is trying to take Arab land", and it looked like everything was "brab" and Israel only wanted a little tiny slice of it. The truth is none of this is "Arab land". It's fucking land. It belongs to what ever country currently occupies it, not what ever country it belonged to one hundred years ago. Land changes ownership and possession is nine tenths of the law.

What's going to happen thirty years from now when the entire world runs on electric cars and no one needs oil? Man, these fuckers are gonna be pissed off.

This is bullshit. They have been trying to do it the legal peaceful way. When they try and get recognised statehood through legal peaceful means Israel threatens to overthrow them, invoke financial penalties and MORE ILLEGAL SETTLEMENT EXPANSION -http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/14/israeli-minister-threatens-abbas-un

And of course the US will veto their peaceful attempt.

What you are saying is basically the verbal equivalent of grabbing a kids arm and slapping himself in the face with it saying "stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself".

Neither side is playing by the rules. It'll get solved once the oil runs out and maybe more muslim migration to America increases the pro-palestinian vote which might enable a two state solution to be forced. Maybe if a generation or two can go by without major casualties the extremists will die off and less new people with newly dead brothers and children will take their place.

Would be nice to end it sooner though.. all the terrorist allah-fuckers love the current situation. One of the better recruitment tools for the jihad business.

Putin will not be assassinated :2 cents:

Here's what should have happened. Hitler should have negotiated with Stalin to send six million Jews to under-populated regions of Siberia, where they would have lived free of persecution under a Jew-friendly political system. Those six million and their descendants could help protect the region against an inevitable Chinese invasion, which many Russians believe is already happening. Yeah it would be cold but they'd have coats and beards and shit, they'd survive.

If they wanted, those Jews could then return to their ancestral home of Khazaria, as many other exiled groups in Russia have done (Crimean Tatars, Chechens etc.) What the fuck is the point of squabbling over heavily-populated strips of land when there are vast regions that could do with the influx? If there ever is a "world government", I'd hope to fuck that they'd spread the people out a bit more.

^ https://wikispooks.com/w/images/e/e7...a_Handbook.pdf

Putin is smart and he has the best people around him, it's hard to assassinate him, but the Global Mafia are pretty good. :2 cents:

Israel - House of Rothschild wanted their own country, in particular they wanted a foothold in the Middle East. Their buddies the Rockefellers funded the Nazis, made sure that enough happened to Jews as a pretext for a new nation. The Holocaust was then exaggerated and passed over to Hollywood, as it's political, it's being used as an excuse to take somebody elses country away from them. The Jews have been duped into this, they are just pawns on the board of the Global Bankers. :2 cents:

Oh good, another stupid Arab/Jew thread on GFY. Why can't we just add auto banhammer for any more threads like this? They just go nowhere, and result in a bunch of name calling and bullshit from both sides.
Stop the insanity! You are permitted to discuss only adult related topics from now on, like how you should all be acting like adults.
...also tits

I agree with you.

You can always count on Russia to make good choices.

True...and they know that they're on the Hitlist, along with China, so they must have some type of plan prepared to defend themselves against the West. I was impressed with their recent bill on NGO's :2 cents:

Sorry but you can't sit there with one side and claim to try and make peace while the other side lobs rockets. You have to go all in and "want" the peace. (meaning the 2 factions with-in Palestine it's self.)

The reason their peace talk never go anywhere is because everyone knows that it doesn't matter how sincere one group is, there is always the other group Hamas & the terrorist fuckers that will break the deal.

When you try to broker a peace deal you have to be willing to do what ever it takes to make sure all the people on your side are going to stick with it. You can have one half of the govt saying yea we will agree to peace then the other half saying fuck that we are sending rockets with flowers on them.

If the guys trying to agree with with a peace deal can't keep the guys that want to fight in check then we get what we have seen year after year. The simple fact is the Palestine people can't live up to their half of the deal because they can't keep the terrorist bastards at bay.

You can't blame Israel for shooting back when they have rockets getting fired at them. You can't blame Israel for having better weapons and doing more damage. Just because one side has better aim doesn't me they are 100% at fault. They are just better equipped.

The best option Palestine has would be to let international troops in to keep the peace, because they can't do it themselves.. However I'm pretty sure the rest of the world isn't interested in getting sucked into another war that the terrorist would claim is occupation.

The point being the Palestine people have lost credibility as far as peace deals go. They have to rebuild that credibility before the rest of the world will take them seriously.

The Jewish "terrorists" who fought the Germans during the Warsaw uprising were forced to fight in the same way as the Palestinians are forced to fight.

If you take away peoples homes, land, and rights all you can do is fight.

hopefully you realize I was being sarcastic about Russia, and the good choices thing.

Can't blame the Palestinians for firing rockets when they are stripped of their freedom and put into an open air prison by Israel.

this is why I hate religion