You can't control what your sponsors do with the leads they buy from you, But I assure you that Lead Wrench won't abuse your data.

Leadwrench isn't really revealing how they actually handle the data that is shared with them, so bear with me:

PROCESS.
1. You collect user info on a dating pre-join page (for example).
2. You have that info/data that you have collected (a lot of it) and you pass it to Leadwrench, and they optimize it for the various dating sites that you're both using.
3. Monies are generated on leads and joins by sending the data to these various dating sites.

COST.
One would have to figure out what the originating traffic is costing the affiliate (if anything at all as it may be organic SE traffic), and the cost of passing it through Leadwrench (their fee).


It reminds me a lot of emailing services. Customer has half a million email addresses, but no effective or safe way to hit those emails with offers so they use a service that is white-listed.

In either case, you have to trust that 3rd party with your data and hope they never share it or use it themselves.

Sent, enjoy! :thumbsup

My buddy VenusBlogger hooking me up once again. :winkwink:

If you know all of my sites, then you know more than me. i literaly cannot keep up with them. I have to keep shit in a speadsheet. Domains, which names the domains are registered under, which hosts they are pointed at, which IPs they are on, and even if i have a site built on a particular domain or not.

If i cant keep up with it, how can you? The majority of my stuff isnt even registered in my name because of stalkers like you.. one has followed me for nearly 15 fucking years.

I dont have SEO traffic? Fuck.. where did it go? Oh my god... fuck!

Wait... what the fuck... analytics says it is right there. What the fuck are you trying to pull?

Must be some other shit... MSN chat died like 10 years ago, and although I'm building an email list, I have yet to blast one out yet.

Ok, I'm going to give you the super secret traffic sauce.

I run ads in newspapers from my tiny one-bedroom apartment.

That business was supposed to be our little secret. Thanks for once again proving you can't be trusted with sensitive information! :disgust

Just so PenisBlogger doesnt have a fucking stroke...

This is some of what I do.

I have my own dating site. I have hundreds of domains that get some traffic, they all look like a dating site as well. The join page on all of those sites, is the join page to my one dating site.

Get it so far?

The join page on the one dating site... is sent thru LeadWrench.

Thats the fucking real deal. No secrets.

Why can you not fucking understand it? You've been told this over and over. Edgeprod even said the same thing in this thread. Get it through your thick fucking skull, you god damned retard on wheels.

I like you man. :1orglaugh

Hey Sharky, thanks for the demo today on our call.

It opened my eyes to what Leadwrench does. Looking forward to using your service!

nice Sharky

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Lol, that post made my day.

Sharky I tried getting in contact with you a few times, seems email my never went through to you or I never received reply.

lead wrench account: lovesex

Who owns that website? Jay who?

http://www.jayknowscash.com/2012/10/...-pack-for-you/

I just fired you off an email. I don't have anything from you.


My pleasure. I'm glad I got the chance to walk you through the system and answer your questions. As we discussed, Lead Wrench is simple to use but really does require more personal discussion than a message board provides.

Thanks Juicy!!!

I don't know, he has a way to contact him on the site though.

I guess what I'm wondering more about is the customer side of things and the quality of their experience.

If they join dating site X, and enter their details through the API.. Will they get bombarded with tons of different offers via email? Surely there are quality control issues with programs paying per lead on watered down customers who have been over exposed.

How is this different then Host & Post? Or is it basically the same?

How much do a couple hundred domains pointing to dating api join form make you in 2012? I know you are leaving adult, I would like to know how that worked this year for you.

It is just a different animal now then before. I am seeing ridiculous ppc with mainstream adsense and just wondering does it make any sense at all to start 200 or so sites to push dating or cams?

You are looking at it the wrong way and mixing things up i think.
Luckily all the big tubes and other sites sell traffic at affordable rates. Making adult profitable is easy as pie these days and even works with ultra high CPC/CPM costs.
TrafficJunky, Adbucks, Exoclick... you can spend 50-100k a day there and dont need the same kind of setup like mr pheer to push 1000-10,000 leads a day.
Dont get blinded by the light..

^^ THIS

And it gets worse, when trying to look at AFF pricing I found out I have an AFF account I never signed up for.


1. All my details were wrong, was confusing as fuck, I knew it was an API sign up but a surfer probably would have just given up.

2. It robbed the affiliate who actually referred me and raised brand awareness of his commission. In the long run it will mean less affiliates for AFF

3. All the emails had gone to spam some API users are basically email spamming via the sponsor servers.


I understand why a small program has one, but for AFF even though the numbers might look good in the short term most of these sales they would have made anyway and they for sure lose some through erroneous details etc.



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Sharky is a great guy:)

Mr. Romance

I've cut way back on the dating especially since august... but according to stats remote it's still a 6-figure year for dating.

Last year was much higher, but I was almost focused on dating exclusively and a bit on webcams. This year I've eliminated webcams, am phasing out dating, and focused more on mainstream.

You should stop helping that clown Venusblogger. I tried it and instead of thanking me he was implying i was some kind of scammer. He will do the same thing to you. The guy has mental issues going on. Don't waste your time on him. He's not worth it. Put him on ignore.

Added him to ignore as well. He is worthless Piriod

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Does leadwrench re-use our Email data for any other purposes?

Is that your BeachBody thing or are you doing different mainstream projects?

Beachbody is one of my projects. It's actually pretty fun.

Have a few others.

I was looking into it but they don't have the program open to Canadians yet :(

Are your other projects like BeachBody or are you makin pages and selling hard goods?

Canada is no problem, you just havent asked the right guy :)

My other projects are mostly web services.

mr pheer at gmail dot com if you want in Beachbody.

If programs are paying per lead, they are expecting an exclusive purchase of that live lead. Lead Wrench can/will help you make $$ off every user, including the ones that are not accepted by your main sponsor.

The biggest issue with API traffic for sponsors is abuse. Some scamming affiliates think they can load up a bunch of crap data and try to pass it off as dating users. This not only clogs the resources of the sponsors servers and fills their database with crap, but also causes issues with the sponsors Email delivery. Lead Wrench actively works with sponsors to help prevent this abuse in a number of ways. We don't want crap affiliates using our system and take measures to prevent this type of abuse.

Yes it is essentially the same thing. Host & Post implies a live user/lead where the Affiliate HOSTS the leadgen form and POSTS the live lead data to the sponsor/offer. API differs only as some leads can also be re-posted a few hours/days after the live transaction.

Thanks;-)


To this day I have not been contacted by anyone who identifies himself as VenusBlogger. He says he contacted me, but I haven't seen it.

It depends on the billing package you choose. We never re-use any customer data, unless they have agreed to do so. Please feel free to contact me directly to find out more.

Why so serious, SHARKI? You won't tell us your pants size, that is SUSPIEICIOUSSES to me! PIRIOD!

Ah crap, I forgot to change accounts before posting that. :Oh crap

OK, that made me laugh

Did you end up testing our cams API?

Yes, then the site I was testing on took a *major* hit with last google update. Kinda bumbed me out so it is setup but the site sucks now. I have some others that I will integrate it with.

This thread delivers

lol this industry destroys its self so much. Signing someone up to multiple dating sites does not mean more money lol.

You tell them they are getting a free membership to whatever. Cold signups do not work well. Some cam sites offer free minutes on signup... so you tell them they are getting that and to check their email. Dating sites I'm sure have something to offer for free signups as well to try and upsell them later.

My stats would disagree with you.

I am sure your stats look good because your sponsors are basically letting you cookie stuff. Look I dont want to talk shit I dont want to hate on any ones hustle its just funny to watch how this industry fucks each other over.

so basically you're saying they're in the process of trying to ruin the api marketing strategy for everyone with a hair brained scheme, trying to look exclusive when it's really just for suckers?